First Buzz: 2025 Topps Allen & Ginter baseball cards

[3rdbase]

Saw a case in a multi case break that every box had an X-Fractor "case hit" and was shorted auto's.....

[storycollector]

I was sort of "excited" about this product simply because Topps allegedly (allegedly) brought back Troy Tulowitzki (or "Tulowitski" if you refer to the checklist) in their Legends autographs checklist.

As such, I have spent a few dollars on his name in a few breaks (which has reminded how absurd this hobby has become, but it has been good entertainment whilst laying in bed while my wife rolls her eyes) and have spent a fair amount of time scouring everywhere I can to see evidence of one of these surface. It's been a week or so now and I have not found a single shred of evidence this card actually exists - there's 90 copies across the whole rainbow. I just want to see what image they used and if they misspelled his name on the card too, or just the checklist.

What happens if they just didn't pack it out? Is Fanatics liable to refund money to people who purchased a player based on the odds of pulling said player in their own company's breaking platform? I'm only talking about a small amount of money, so it's not about that, but more about the absurdity of it all. I am sure if I read the fine print, there's some bs in there, but feels class-actiony to me.

Anyway, has anyone seen one of these surface? I'd really like to find one.

[as a side note: most of these breaks have been complete garbage, and by my assessment the only value is in the breakers delight boxes - but even then, lots of trash. Don't get me started on the Disney case hits they're selling people on lol. Rough product]

[Stech36]

Originally Posted by storycollector

I was sort of "excited" about this product simply because Topps allegedly (allegedly) brought back Troy Tulowitzki (or "Tulowitski" if you refer to the checklist) in their Legends autographs checklist.

As such, I have spent a few dollars on his name in a few breaks (which has reminded how absurd this hobby has become, but it has been good entertainment whilst laying in bed while my wife rolls her eyes) and have spent a fair amount of time scouring everywhere I can to see evidence of one of these surface. It's been a week or so now and I have not found a single shred of evidence this card actually exists - there's 90 copies across the whole rainbow. I just want to see what image they used and if they misspelled his name on the card too, or just the checklist.

What happens if they just didn't pack it out? Is Fanatics liable to refund money to people who purchased a player based on the odds of pulling said player in their own company's breaking platform? I'm only talking about a small amount of money, so it's not about that, but more about the absurdity of it all. I am sure if I read the fine print, there's some bs in there, but feels class-actiony to me.

Anyway, has anyone seen one of these surface? I'd really like to find one.

[as a side note: most of these breaks have been complete garbage, and by my assessment the only value is in the breakers delight boxes - but even then, lots of trash. Don't get me started on the Disney case hits they're selling people on lol. Rough product]

I’ve only seen one Yadier Molina, so it may just not have surfaced yet.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by storycollector

I was sort of "excited" about this product simply because Topps allegedly (allegedly) brought back Troy Tulowitzki (or "Tulowitski" if you refer to the checklist) in their Legends autographs checklist.

As such, I have spent a few dollars on his name in a few breaks (which has reminded how absurd this hobby has become, but it has been good entertainment whilst laying in bed while my wife rolls her eyes) and have spent a fair amount of time scouring everywhere I can to see evidence of one of these surface. It's been a week or so now and I have not found a single shred of evidence this card actually exists - there's 90 copies across the whole rainbow. I just want to see what image they used and if they misspelled his name on the card too, or just the checklist.

What happens if they just didn't pack it out? Is Fanatics liable to refund money to people who purchased a player based on the odds of pulling said player in their own company's breaking platform? I'm only talking about a small amount of money, so it's not about that, but more about the absurdity of it all. I am sure if I read the fine print, there's some bs in there, but feels class-actiony to me.

Anyway, has anyone seen one of these surface? I'd really like to find one.

[as a side note: most of these breaks have been complete garbage, and by my assessment the only value is in the breakers delight boxes - but even then, lots of trash. Don't get me started on the Disney case hits they're selling people on lol. Rough product]

The checklist is always “subject to change.”

Good luck finding one!

[13CardinalsFan]

Originally Posted by storycollector

I was sort of "excited" about this product simply because Topps allegedly (allegedly) brought back Troy Tulowitzki (or "Tulowitski" if you refer to the checklist) in their Legends autographs checklist.

As such, I have spent a few dollars on his name in a few breaks (which has reminded how absurd this hobby has become, but it has been good entertainment whilst laying in bed while my wife rolls her eyes) and have spent a fair amount of time scouring everywhere I can to see evidence of one of these surface. It's been a week or so now and I have not found a single shred of evidence this card actually exists - there's 90 copies across the whole rainbow. I just want to see what image they used and if they misspelled his name on the card too, or just the checklist.

What happens if they just didn't pack it out? Is Fanatics liable to refund money to people who purchased a player based on the odds of pulling said player in their own company's breaking platform? I'm only talking about a small amount of money, so it's not about that, but more about the absurdity of it all. I am sure if I read the fine print, there's some bs in there, but feels class-actiony to me.

Anyway, has anyone seen one of these surface? I'd really like to find one.

[as a side note: most of these breaks have been complete garbage, and by my assessment the only value is in the breakers delight boxes - but even then, lots of trash. Don't get me started on the Disney case hits they're selling people on lol. Rough product]

I believe you are talking about Topps Chrome Update not Allen 7 Ginter

[jpeckinp]

Has anyone seen a print run list yet? I'm curious how many Tin Types there are.

[TimBuckTwo]

The absurdity of the screw up on hits in a box possibly etc has me almost want to go out and take a chance on finding a screw up box.

[RedLabelRecords]

I bought a hobby box last weekend and my family immediately ripped, except for four packs that were stashed by my four year old into my stocking. The other packs produced nothing more than the relic, Mookie. I’m anxious but I’m a sucker for Christmas unveilings, so I’m going to wait.

[RedLabelRecords]

What’s the deal with them not releasing the print run?

[PuddleMonkey]

Originally Posted by RedLabelRecords

What’s the deal with them not releasing the print run?

The numbers are so high it reaches the end of mathematics.

[dodgerfanjohn]

Originally Posted by PuddleMonkey

The numbers are so high it reaches the end of mathematics.

Considering most hobbyists can’t figure out 10% of 100, I’m not sure it matters.

[storycollector]

Originally Posted by 13CardinalsFan

I believe you are talking about Topps Chrome Update not Allen 7 Ginter

lol yes, oops, wrong thread my baddd


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[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by dodgerfanjohn

Considering most hobbyists can’t figure out 10% of 100, I’m not sure it matters.

Or 500% price reductions!

[sauceboy]

A&G continues to be my favorite product to rip every year. I've opened up two Blaster Boxes. My "biggest" pull yet was a Jose Canseco bat relic, but there's some cool cards in these. Got hyped to see Paul Rust has an auto.

[TheGZA]

Originally Posted by sauceboy

A&G continues to be my favorite product to rip every year. I've opened up two Blaster Boxes. My "biggest" pull yet was a Jose Canseco bat relic, but there's some cool cards in these. Got hyped to see Paul Rust has an auto.

Used to be my favorite until this year.

Four hobby boxes and nothing but one no-name rookie auto, seven unexciting relics and one numbered card to show for it possibly contributes to that sentiment, of course...I mean, not even one rip card?

[StlBen]

Originally Posted by TheGZA

Used to be my favorite until this year.

Four hobby boxes and nothing but one no-name rookie auto, seven unexciting relics and one numbered card to show for it possibly contributes to that sentiment, of course...I mean, not even one rip card?

If you only opened the 4 boxes then correct the odds are you would not hit a rip card. They are roughly 1:6 boxes (based on the breaks I have watched since no odds are posted).
And your auto:relic ratio sounds correct as well. Maybe a little low, would equal 3 in a case, but most I have watched have at least 4. But yeah you really have to open more if you want to play those odds out....4 boxes is just a small sample size and can go either way.

I opened 6 boxes this year and no rip card....

[YouTheManNick]

Originally Posted by TheGZA

Four hobby boxes and nothing but one no-name rookie auto, seven unexciting relics and one numbered card to show for it possibly contributes to that sentiment, of course...I mean, not even one rip card?

To be fair, Rip Cards fall 2-3 per case. So, four boxes is far from assuring a Rip Card.

[tyrith]

Originally Posted by StlBen

If you only opened the 4 boxes then correct the odds are you would not hit a rip card. They are roughly 1:6 boxes (based on the breaks I have watched since no odds are posted).
And your auto:relic ratio sounds correct as well. Maybe a little low, would equal 3 in a case, but most I have watched have at least 4. But yeah you really have to open more if you want to play those odds out....4 boxes is just a small sample size and can go either way.

I opened 6 boxes this year and no rip card....

I think the bigger problem than the rip cards is having boxes that literally have no autos, no rips, and no numbered cards of any kind. For how much of this they printed, especially with having a retail SKU, they really needed to juice the parallel count at least a little. They wouldn't be worth anything by and large, but at least it wouldn't be pack after pack of nothing but valueless base cards.

[AJNICK23]

Is it somewhat common for the mini framed auto cards to have surface scratches on the plastic area? Sucks to see especially for PC cards to be graded from this specific set...

[ClevelandIC]

Originally Posted by AJNICK23

Is it somewhat common for the mini framed auto cards to have surface scratches on the plastic area? Sucks to see especially for PC cards to be graded from this specific set...

Most of my autos were scratched. My best auto was in the worst condition, however they pack-out the framed autos, doesn't jive with the frame itself.

[AJNICK23]

Originally Posted by ClevelandIC

Most of my autos were scratched. My best auto was in the worst condition, however they pack-out the framed autos, doesn't jive with the frame itself.

Ahh okay, thanks! I figured because of the plastic material. Does this mean PSA will probably focus more on the actual mini card inside the frame when grading?

[dodgerfanjohn]

Originally Posted by AJNICK23

Ahh okay, thanks! I figured because of the plastic material. Does this mean PSA will probably focus more on the actual mini card inside the frame when grading?

No. By and large the framed autos grade not 10. Frankly I still don’t understand why anyone grades the framed cards.

[AJNICK23]

Originally Posted by dodgerfanjohn

No. By and large the framed autos grade not 10. Frankly I still don’t understand why anyone grades the framed cards.

Not too crazy about grading mine being its pc so don’t really care much but I’ve seen a few of my favorite Allen and Ginter framed cards slabbed (PSA 10) like the Hogan and Tyson and they look super clean! Low pop as well.

[StlBen]

Originally Posted by tyrith

I think the bigger problem than the rip cards is having boxes that literally have no autos, no rips, and no numbered cards of any kind. For how much of this they printed, especially with having a retail SKU, they really needed to juice the parallel count at least a little. They wouldn't be worth anything by and large, but at least it wouldn't be pack after pack of nothing but valueless base cards.

What you are describing is what A&G has always been.

[dodgerfanjohn]

Originally Posted by StlBen

What you are describing is what A&G has always been.

Its really wierd. This year is by far the most autos I think. Most cases are doing 3 rip cards and 7-9 autos. Yet the persistent " I only got napkins" is worse than ever.,

Look, no ones holding a gun to anyones head and forcing them to pay $150-200 for a hobby box. Theres going to be boxes with 2 relics as the hits...going off what I've seen, thats around 3-4 boxes per case that are like that. In the past its been 5-6 boxes per case.