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Nah he's in for that..this isn't a knock on Gore but more of a showing how worthy some of those other guys are despite never getting in. Since he was actively taking a dig at them.
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Anderson played from 1979-1992. Which is no knock on him, that's a long time to ball! But was he ever, at any point, a top 5 RB in the league? How many great RB's played in his era? A lot. And all way better. He started off hot, and then was just a guy for a dozen seasons. Both of his All Pros (1 first team) and both of his Pro Bowls were in 1979 & 1980 over his first 2 years. Then a dozen years of nothing straight. Yes, he won 2 Super Bowls. But he was just on the team that got there. He wasnt the reason they were there. SBXXI in 1986, he had zero starts for the Giants and had 81 yards rushing for 1 TD in 8 games that season. The other one, XXV, he had 784 rushing yards and 139 receiving with a total of 11 TDs on the season. But he won SB MVP! He did! We should let Jim Plunkett, Doug Williams, Mark Rypien, Desmond Howard, Dexter Jackson & Santonio Holmes into the Hall as well then. They all won an MVP in the SB around the same time. |
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I can see some of these RBs getting in on with the vet committee. Just for the fact there won't be as many modern RBs with the numbers to get in. Modern RBs are going to be judged a bit more with scrimmage yards instead of just rushing yards.
Take somebody like Lesean McCoy who is on the all decade team, a lead indicator of getting in. 23rd all time in yards, 32 in TDs. On balance, is his numbers all the different to some of those backs mentioned - Anderson, Dillon, Waters, Steven Jackson, Warrick Dunn, Fred Taylor, Sean Alexander. I tend to put all those guys in the same bucket. Some have more yards, some have more TDs. I don't think all those guys are HOFers. I do think if a few get a vet nod, he wouldn't be out of place in the HOF. |
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Was he the best in the league at any time? Yes, and not just for a year. He was the best in a 5 year run. And thats with a prime Jerry Rice still going off as well. I get the league not letting in every one hit wonder. They have to have some sort of cut-off. IE, great for X amount of years when considering career ending injuries. Like Sayers as well. |
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Both because it would be fitting and because I'd love to see how they interact with each other at the ceremony.
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Ha ha, let's just wait for the full Patriots HOF day - Brady, Gronk, Vinitiari, Kraft, and Belichick. Get it all done in one year.
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I'd travel to Canton to see that.
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Otis Anderson played from 1979 - 1992.
Here’s a list of all the Hall of Fame Running backs his career overlapped with. Some of these guys were at the tail end of their careers. Please note that I just list the years of overlap not full playing years. Anderson is not a hall of famer in my mind. OJ Simpson 1979 Larry Csonka 1979 Franco Harris 1979 - 1984 John Riggins 1979, 1981-1985 Earl Campbell 1979-1985 Walter Payton 1979-1987 Tony Dorsett 1979-1988 Marcus Allen 1982 - 1992 Eric Dickerson 1983 -1992 Thurman Thomas 1988 -1992 Barry Sanders 1989 - 1992 Emmitt Smith 1990 - 1992 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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What I meant was that Holt's time in the league (1999-2009) was more difficult than Wayne's (2001-2014) as it relates to the WR position.
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Roger Craig is more deserving than Anderson as a Vet selection, in my opinion. Had about the same yards from scrimmage in 18 fewer games, and wasn't just a passenger on title teams. He's 9th all-time in postseason yards, and topped 100yds from scrimmage in all three of those Super Bowls.
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It seems like that’s a whole lot of overlap to make a point in Holt’s favor.
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If compare 1988 - 1994 for both players (Sharpe's playing career) it's not really that close. 1992 was an amazing year for Sharpe. I'm less of a fan of short careers with top peaks, but I have no issue with Sharpe being in. He was spectacular.
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But 1989-1993. Rice and Sharpe were both 1st team All Pro. So you'd be silly to say that weren't at least on the same level. The big difference? Rice had Montana & Bill Walsh. Sharpe had Majkowski & Infante |
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Other player 6 year - 548 catches, 7466 yards, 53 TDs, 4PB, 3 AP (93-98) Neither is Jerry Rice. Don't perfectly overlap. The other player is never mentioned for HOF (nor should he be), but had a very similar career derailed with injuries, but he didn't retire right away. Career TDs are very close. |
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S. Sharpe had 4 peak years; H. Moore had 3 peak years. S. Sharpe had 65 TDs in 7 years; H. Moore had 62 TDs in 12 years. Either way, no complaints if Moore gets in. Remember, Sharpe didn't get in until 30 years after he retired. Moore retired in 2002, so we'll talk in 2032.
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I guess I am biased, but my bias is also supported by facts. And of course, having Montana/Young helped. This was the Seifert era, largely, though.
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You brought up another relevant point in regards to S. Sharpe, which is favorable to him - he literally retired (injury) at the peak, peak of his career. There's a mystique to not being able to see what may have been.
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My lasting memory was how pissed Lions fans were when he left for AZ.
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