Patrick Mahomes Prices

[JohnnyHatesJazz]

Originally Posted by pejc300

I haven't bought Mahomes in a long time. If they miss the playoffs, that will change. If you like Mahomes long-term, there will be a handful of times to buy in his career, and this will be one of them. People will absolutely look to dump and put money into other guys they can flip in the shorter term, so there will be deals to be had. And if you have the time to be patient and you believe that at some point in the next 10 years the Chiefs will be hot again for a season (like a 10-0 start or something, or SB favorites and looking good) you could see some nice gains. Brady had many, many of these buying opportunities.



It's a great card. For some reason it has never been a favorite of collectors, as they really like the red power /49 (which is pretty much a perfect card). I've owned several of the purple ice and they are awesome. Unfortunately, you're competing with a BGS 9 that is listed for half the price with .5 subs away from gem, and there are like 5 other copies on ebay as well, which is surprising. Good luck with the sale!

Not trying to scare anybody but as with any investment, there should be a risk assessment. Athletes that are double jointed and hypermobile such as Mahomes presents a unique set of risks especially at this stage of his career. Yes anybody at anytime can get injured but with Mahomes there’s disc degeneration, stiffening and muscle fatigue that can lead to joint instability and also a decline in flexibility, the very aspect of mahome’s physical gift that made him a great quarterback can also lead to a precipitous downfall when it’s not there anymore. He generates a ton of torque using his spinal flexibility which creates the velocity on his throws. It is also this flexibility that gives him off platform advantages. Because of the physical nature of football which exacerbates any problem arising from joint or spinal susceptibility and the negative compounding outcomes relating to the loss of elusiveness for a guy like Mahomes, it would be prudent to adopt a more cautious approach when buying on the dip.

Again, I’m not an expert. I don’t have a crystal ball. For all I know mahomes will play until he’s 45 like Brady. However, Brady wasn’t built like Gumby with all the pros and cons that come with it. Just something to consider.

[KardsC1]

More flexible guys lasts longer…look at Phil vs Tiger….the long fluid, flexible guy always have a longer athletic prime..but with any cards, buy with money you are willing to lose..it’s a collectible at the end of the day

[JohnnyHatesJazz]

Originally Posted by KardsC1

More flexible guys lasts longer…look at Phil vs Tiger….the long fluid, flexible guy always have a longer athletic prime..but with any cards, buy with money you are willing to lose..it’s a collectible at the end of the day

Can you think of a hypermobile athlete that was able to play well for much of their 30s in a contact sport such as football or hockey? When did Tiger’s game start deteriorating? That’s without 300 pound linemen tackling him.

Not only does Mahomes have the spinal stresses every time he throws a football but also every time he lands on his back after every hit or sack.

[CorndogWasp]

Originally Posted by JohnnyHatesJazz

Not trying to scare anybody but as with any investment, there should be a risk assessment. Athletes that are double jointed and hypermobile such as Mahomes presents a unique set of risks especially at this stage of his career. Yes anybody at anytime can get injured but with Mahomes there’s disc degeneration, stiffening and muscle fatigue that can lead to joint instability and also a decline in flexibility, the very aspect of mahome’s physical gift that made him a great quarterback can also lead to a precipitous downfall when it’s not there anymore. He generates a ton of torque using his spinal flexibility which creates the velocity on his throws. It is also this flexibility that gives him off platform advantages. Because of the physical nature of football which exacerbates any problem arising from joint or spinal susceptibility and the negative compounding outcomes relating to the loss of elusiveness for a guy like Mahomes, it would be prudent to adopt a more cautious approach when buying on the dip.

Again, I’m not an expert. I don’t have a crystal ball. For all I know mahomes will play until he’s 45 like Brady. However, Brady wasn’t built like Gumby with all the pros and cons that come with it. Just something to consider.

Why did you type it all like that

"the negative compounding outcomes"

no one actually talks like this, i know what you are doing

edit: everything you said here is hot air BS "big word" nonsense is what is what im telling you, the person who you think you are doesn't actually speak this way, i can assure you

[bluebirds987]

Originally Posted by CorndogWasp

Why did you type it all like that

"the negative compounding outcomes"

no one actually talks like this, i know what you are doing

edit: everything you said here is hot air BS "big word" nonsense is what is what im telling you, the person who you think you are doesn't actually speak this way, i can assure you

Please don't quote these guys. Every post is the same -

Johnny - Mahomes will never be as good as Brady.

Delta - Mahomes can do nothing right even though he took the Chiefs to 5 of the last 6 Super Bowls and is the GOAT under 30.

[JohnnyHatesJazz]

Originally Posted by CorndogWasp

Why did you type it all like that

"the negative compounding outcomes"

no one actually talks like this, i know what you are doing

edit: everything you said here is hot air BS "big word" nonsense is what is what im telling you, the person who you think you are doesn't actually speak this way, i can assure you

Sounds like you have it all figured out.

No hard feelings. Money is often made via opposing viewpoints. If we all agreed on everything, that would muddy things up a bit.

And I even added that I could be wrong…

[Zauron]

Originally Posted by Jeter1020

Just found on instagram too. Just pulled 1/5




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Massive card, I'm just laughing at including the "jersey match" tag lol

Originally Posted by pejc300

I haven't bought Mahomes in a long time. If they miss the playoffs, that will change. If you like Mahomes long-term, there will be a handful of times to buy in his career, and this will be one of them. People will absolutely look to dump and put money into other guys they can flip in the shorter term, so there will be deals to be had. And if you have the time to be patient and you believe that at some point in the next 10 years the Chiefs will be hot again for a season (like a 10-0 start or something, or SB favorites and looking good) you could see some nice gains. Brady had many, many of these buying opportunities.

I agree with this take, but also I'm not sure prices will really fall if they miss the playoffs. Maybe a slight decrease? I just can't see there being huge deals in the offseason, but if there are then absolutely buy in.

Originally Posted by JWBlue

Are the Bills going to make the playoffs? They are likely to end 10-7. Lose a tiebreaker with Houston. Chiefs likely run the table.

Chiefs still have 3 tough games vs the Texans, Chargers and Broncos left, I don't see them winning all 3 of those games. And if they lose vs the Texans, that is another tiebreaker loss.

[Floridacardguy]

Originally Posted by Zauron

Massive card, I'm just laughing at including the "jersey match" tag lol



I agree with this take, but also I'm not sure prices will really fall if they miss the playoffs. Maybe a slight decrease? I just can't see there being huge deals in the offseason, but if there are then absolutely buy in.



Chiefs still have 3 tough games vs the Texans, Chargers and Broncos left, I don't see them winning all 3 of those games. And if they lose vs the Texans, that is another tiebreaker loss.

I don't think KC can even win the division. A playoff berth is best hope.
Broncos should have it locked up barring a complete meltdown. Without a doubt, they MUST beat the Commanders, Jags, Raiders- because those are just 3 inferior teams in all aspects. That leaves the Chargers, Chiefs, Packers.
I think they beat the Chargers out of those 3, so even if they lose to the Chiefs and Packers- they should hold on to the division. If they play full games on all cylinders, I think they will cruise to the division title and I would not be shocked if they go undefeated the rest of the way. If they beat KC in KC, stick a fork in KC for playoffs

[JohnnyHatesJazz]

Originally Posted by bluebirds987

Please don't quote these guys. Every post is the same -

Johnny - Mahomes will never be as good as Brady.

Delta - Mahomes can do nothing right even though he took the Chiefs to 5 of the last 6 Super Bowls and is the GOAT under 30.

I have given legitimate things to be concerned about. Even with the acknowledgement that I could be wrong. No ego boosting, no hidden agenda and no effs given as to whether the reader takes my advice or not.

How much more authentic can a man be?

[CorndogWasp]

No one says precipitous downfall in real life. Not even geniuses.

[majestik101]

Originally Posted by Jeter1020

Just found on instagram too. Just pulled 1/5

If that's the same card from a few years ago, giant scratch on the front by his arm. Nice job with the filter/spot removal by the picture taker.

Surprised he didnt put COLOR MATCH!!! 🔥🔥🔥 to signify the tiny bit of gold/yellow on the Chiefs jersey.

[pejc300]

Originally Posted by majestik101

If that's the same card from a few years ago, giant scratch on the front by his arm. Nice job with the filter/spot removal by the picture taker.

Surprised he didnt put COLOR MATCH!!! 🔥🔥🔥 to signify the tiny bit of gold/yellow on the Chiefs jersey.

It looks like this one was just pulled.

[JohnnyHatesJazz]

Originally Posted by CorndogWasp

No one says precipitous downfall in real life. Not even geniuses.

Yankees are known for their higher education. Lots of smart people that talk like this here in my neck of the woods.

[TheCrow]

Originally Posted by Jeter1020

Apparently this just got pulled in a break.




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It's crazy that there are still monster grail cards like this from 2017 that haven't been pulled yet or are just being discovered. That was like getting a winning lotto ticket.
Does anyone know if Mahomes Black XRC 1/1 has ever surfaced? Or if it was ever even redeemed? And if no one redeemed it at the time, wouldn't Panini reissue such a huge card as a White/Black box or something like that?

[boxbuster7]

psa 10 gold auto did $242k a few weeks back.

There really isn't a clip of them pulling that card?

It's almost hard to believe somebody actually ended up winning in a 2017 prizm break

[Jeter1020]

Originally Posted by boxbuster7

psa 10 gold auto did $242k a few weeks back.

There really isn't a clip of them pulling that card?

It's almost hard to believe somebody actually ended up winning in a 2017 prizm break

There is. It’s on their instagram

https://www.instagram.com/huntbreaks/


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[boxbuster7]

Originally Posted by Jeter1020

There is. It’s on their instagram

https://www.instagram.com/huntbreaks/


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thanks! pretty wild.

[majestik101]

Originally Posted by boxbuster7

psa 10 gold auto did $242k a few weeks back.

There really isn't a clip of them pulling that card?

It's almost hard to believe somebody actually ended up winning in a 2017 prizm break

I'd be curious how much of a dip in value a card like that has taken. I bet a psa10 gold auto probably would have been closer to $500k during his Super Bowl/MVP run of 2021-2023

it's crazy how much an off year kills the value of a card like that

[wmeinhold]

Originally Posted by Jeter1020

Apparently this just got pulled in a break.




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I was was watching when they pulled this. It was a personal break for one of their larger spenders. He has been opening 2017 prizm boxes all week. They hit a gold watson base and was pretty sure that was the best it would get. These guys also pulled the mahomes shield from 2024 flawless.

[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by wmeinhold

I was was watching when they pulled this. It was a personal break for one of their larger spenders. He has been opening 2017 prizm boxes all week. They hit a gold watson base and was pretty sure that was the best it would get. These guys also pulled the mahomes shield from 2024 flawless.

No idea how much he paid for the box but imagine that would be a bloodbath 99.99999% of the time. I used to love ripping old wax but even I wouldn't have gone for those odds.

[boxbuster7]

Originally Posted by majestik101

I'd be curious how much of a dip in value a card like that has taken. I bet a psa10 gold auto probably would have been closer to $500k during his Super Bowl/MVP run of 2021-2023

it's crazy how much an off year kills the value of a card like that

the base stuff is more desirable than the autos but ya it is strange. people spend thousands on unproven prospects every year when they could get solid mahomes rookies for the same amount - but the gamble is always more exciting.

The high end market kind of defies this catch 22 but then again have to take a lot of those "sales" with a grain of salt

[tjforce]

Welp, tough loss to take Thursday.

Wasted what might have been the best performance of the season for Mahomes, and what could have been an all time great Thanksgiving day comeback if he got the ball again. But such is life.

But hey, at least all the folks who weren't happy about just winning boring the last few years and wanted stats should be happy about the fact that he's on track for a league leading 5,000+ yard year with 37 Touchdowns! (I'd rather have boring wins, lol).

[JohnnyHatesJazz]

If you’re going to be MJ of the NFL, you should have the stats and the wins. Boring wins makes you Tim Duncan.

[Delta5]

Originally Posted by tjforce

Welp, tough loss to take Thursday.

Wasted what might have been the best performance of the season for Mahomes, and what could have been an all time great Thanksgiving day comeback if he got the ball again. But such is life.

But hey, at least all the folks who weren't happy about just winning boring the last few years and wanted stats should be happy about the fact that he's on track for a league leading 5,000+ yard year with 37 Touchdowns! (I'd rather have boring wins, lol).

is it that hard to be both?

[Delta5]

Originally Posted by thenwhatjk

Hey guys, it’s the guy who owns zero Mahomes cards but has worked with the chiefs at the past three super bowls checking in. What the actual heck guys. I want nothing more than to have the same end client for the fourth year in a row and I find this loss very concerning. I thought yall turned the corner last week and now we were all good, I missed the game but this seems pretty not good guys

What corner did they turn? They are .500 team playing like it. Penalties, drops, unable to execute on red zone, and futile 4th qtr drive