Does anyone still collect/build the original Fleer/SkyBox Autographics sets? - Page 14

kingofsnake · 07-19-2024, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Drjisbackk

Thanks for the data. Question - how did you get that much comp data? I use 130 pt so it doesnt go back that far.

You're welcome. I use Terrapeak.

identify · 08-14-2024, 10:25 PM

Anyone has 98~99 Hill and Rodmen auto for sale?I need them,thanks.

identify · 08-14-2024, 10:30 PM

Or anyone has 98~99 whole set for sale please DM me,thanks.

bigsmooth · 08-15-2024, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by identify

Anyone has 98~99 Hill and Rodmen auto for sale?I need them,thanks.

We all need the Rodman, gonna need to dig deep for that one.

bjho852 · 08-11-2025, 02:14 PM

Figured to give it a push. lol
Anyone still in it?

bigsmooth · 08-13-2025, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by bjho852

Figured to give it a push. lol
Anyone still in it?

Still doing it, the 97 CM Sheed and T-Mac have become almost unattainable, and I’m convinced someone is hoarding the 1998 Rodman’s in China.

Nomad · 08-13-2025, 11:12 AM

It only takes one collector. You gotta be on good terms to get access.

And not all are into it for the money.

I get how this works on a much less hobby-relevant level. When I think of selling Nesmith, I can think of almost no scenarios where I have a conversation that gets me to the table. At least from the limited National footage I watched.

So what do you do? You patiently wait and find product that the Rodman collector will consider of acceptable value, either based on potential or actual performance. There are probably certain 90s cards of Rodman that are unicorns floating around, that he would trade for say green PMGs of which he has doubles.

Or, that collector may be looking to diversify to modern mid-career, playoffs. Emerging name, more risky gamble. Then I am in the discussion and I have leapfrogged. And now I have that Rodman that is much harder to source than vaulted, priced, and tagged MJs.

More likely, what happened is, a supercollector similar to me, but buying at a much cheaper time with fewer issues, had a comprehensively deep collection that got destroyed in a flood. I mean I could literally drop a small carrying case of cards into a river and the supply of rare AA would go down by 10-15 percent.

boxbuster7 · 08-13-2025, 11:49 AM

the amount of fakes always scared me away but funny story

I used to look in discount section of my lcs when I was a teen. I believe the packs were $1.49

opened a ton of packs of 2000-01 hoops hot prospects...never hit anything except a mike miller jersey. One day I pulled a vince carter autographics /250 - gave it to my nextdoor neighbor for free for god knows whatever reason. One of the cards I wish I could have back.

Always wanted to buy another one

Nomad · 08-13-2025, 11:54 AM

I dunno you have a story to last a lifetime.

boxbuster7 · 08-13-2025, 11:55 AM

I could actually ask for it back but probably won't - I haven't talked to him in 15 years but bet he would give it to me for free

will probably buy another one

bjho852 · 10-01-2025, 11:45 PM

Lawrence Moten became the 2nd player from the inaugural 1996-97 set to pass away, following Bobby Phills.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...en-dies-age-53

bigsmooth · 10-03-2025, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bjho852

Lawrence Moten became the 2nd player from the inaugural 1996-97 set to pass away, following Bobby Phills.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...en-dies-age-53

That’s wild considering Bobby died over 25 years ago.

bjho852 · 11-22-2025, 02:06 PM

Rodney Rogers passed away.

https://x.com/NBA/status/1992301416971415925

The 3rd from the 1996-97 set, and the 2nd this year.

bigsmooth · 11-22-2025, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bjho852

Rodney Rogers passed away.

https://x.com/NBA/status/1992301416971415925

The 3rd from the 1996-97 set, and the 2nd this year.

How’s it looking from the other two sets?

kingofsnake · 11-22-2025, 02:48 PM

Rodney Rogers passed today? So young too. RIP.

bjho852 · 11-22-2025, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bigsmooth

How’s it looking from the other two sets?

- Lorenzen Wright, being in both 1997-98 and 1998-99 sets, was murdered in 2010.
- Robert Traylor, being in both 1998-99 (rookie) and 1999-2000 sets, died of heart attack in 2011.

There might be others having passed away that I am not aware of. Feel free to chime in.

kingofsnake · 11-22-2025, 05:15 PM

Eric Montross also deceased.

bjho852 · 11-22-2025, 05:56 PM

Thought that Montross fought successfully against cancer. I stand corrected.
Montross passed away in 2023.

So Moten and Rogers are actually the 3rd and 4th overall from the 1996-97 set to have passed away.

bjho852 · 12-03-2025, 08:02 PM

Elden Campbell passed away on December 2.
He is in 1997-98, 1998-99, 1999-2000 and 2000-01 sets.
I don't have the 2000-01 card, though anyone can find an image of it easily.

08-11-2025, 02:14 PM	#330
bjho852 Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 4,283	Figured to give it a push. lol Anyone still in it? __________________ Instagram (IG): bjho852

08-13-2025, 11:12 AM	#332
Nomad Banned Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: Fomenting FOMO on the down low. Posts: 8,094	It only takes one collector. You gotta be on good terms to get access. And not all are into it for the money. I get how this works on a much less hobby-relevant level. When I think of selling Nesmith, I can think of almost no scenarios where I have a conversation that gets me to the table. At least from the limited National footage I watched. So what do you do? You patiently wait and find product that the Rodman collector will consider of acceptable value, either based on potential or actual performance. There are probably certain 90s cards of Rodman that are unicorns floating around, that he would trade for say green PMGs of which he has doubles. Or, that collector may be looking to diversify to modern mid-career, playoffs. Emerging name, more risky gamble. Then I am in the discussion and I have leapfrogged. And now I have that Rodman that is much harder to source than vaulted, priced, and tagged MJs. More likely, what happened is, a supercollector similar to me, but buying at a much cheaper time with fewer issues, had a comprehensively deep collection that got destroyed in a flood. I mean I could literally drop a small carrying case of cards into a river and the supply of rare AA would go down by 10-15 percent. Last edited by Nomad; 08-13-2025 at 11:24 AM.

08-13-2025, 11:49 AM	#333
boxbuster7 Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 13,191 boxbuster777	the amount of fakes always scared me away but funny story I used to look in discount section of my lcs when I was a teen. I believe the packs were $1.49 opened a ton of packs of 2000-01 hoops hot prospects...never hit anything except a mike miller jersey. One day I pulled a vince carter autographics /250 - gave it to my nextdoor neighbor for free for god knows whatever reason. One of the cards I wish I could have back. Always wanted to buy another one __________________ Psa 9 > psa 10 Last edited by boxbuster7; 08-13-2025 at 11:55 AM.

08-13-2025, 11:55 AM	#335
boxbuster7 Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 13,191 boxbuster777	I could actually ask for it back but probably won't - I haven't talked to him in 15 years but bet he would give it to me for free will probably buy another one __________________ Psa 9 > psa 10

10-01-2025, 11:45 PM	#336
bjho852 Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 4,283	Lawrence Moten became the 2nd player from the inaugural 1996-97 set to pass away, following Bobby Phills. https://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...en-dies-age-53 __________________ Instagram (IG): bjho852

08-14-2024, 10:25 PM	#327
identify Member Join Date: May 2019 Location: TAIWAN Posts: 52 hillokggg	Anyone has 98~99 Hill and Rodmen auto for sale?I need them,thanks.

08-14-2024, 10:30 PM	#328
identify Member Join Date: May 2019 Location: TAIWAN Posts: 52 hillokggg	Or anyone has 98~99 whole set for sale please DM me,thanks.

08-13-2025, 11:54 AM	#334
Nomad Banned Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: Fomenting FOMO on the down low. Posts: 8,094	I dunno you have a story to last a lifetime.

11-22-2025, 02:06 PM	#338
bjho852 Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 4,283	Rodney Rogers passed away. https://x.com/NBA/status/1992301416971415925 The 3rd from the 1996-97 set, and the 2nd this year. __________________ Instagram (IG): bjho852

11-22-2025, 02:48 PM	#340
kingofsnake Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Napa Valley Posts: 4,649	Rodney Rogers passed today? So young too. RIP. __________________ I collect Joe Johnson - 2,837 different cards, 529 1/1's. www.ilocust.com/hobby.htm

11-22-2025, 05:15 PM	#342
kingofsnake Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Napa Valley Posts: 4,649	Eric Montross also deceased. __________________ I collect Joe Johnson - 2,837 different cards, 529 1/1's. www.ilocust.com/hobby.htm

11-22-2025, 05:56 PM	#343
bjho852 Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 4,283	Thought that Montross fought successfully against cancer. I stand corrected. Montross passed away in 2023. So Moten and Rogers are actually the 3rd and 4th overall from the 1996-97 set to have passed away. __________________ Instagram (IG): bjho852

12-03-2025, 08:02 PM	#344
bjho852 Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 4,283	Elden Campbell passed away on December 2. He is in 1997-98, 1998-99, 1999-2000 and 2000-01 sets. I don't have the 2000-01 card, though anyone can find an image of it easily. __________________ Instagram (IG): bjho852 Last edited by bjho852; 12-03-2025 at 08:22 PM.