✹The PERENNIAL Shohei Ohtani Thread✹ - Page 1365

ballislife · 11-14-2025, 02:44 PM

There's a nice CRASO blue auto BGS 9.5/10 min gem that recently showed up on eBay. $80K plus free shipping!

There is a BCRASO blue auto PSA 10 in Fanatics Premier at 120K with 6 days to go. I feel like 80K is a fair price for the BGS 9.5.

Crazy to think 80K is a fair price...I wish I had 80K to spend...

jjrpilot · 11-14-2025, 02:53 PM

Well this arrived about an hour ago. Really glad to add it to my pc.

2013 BBM Ohtani rookie. This was his very first flagship rookie card. I think that as people start to dig into his card catalog they'll want to add his first RC.

seanrs1 · 11-14-2025, 05:36 PM

It appears to me that virtually all Ohtani RC cards are hitting all time highs (or near all time highs). So what is everyone's buying strategy going forward?

Obviously people that were opening a ton of wax in 2018 (or did not open their wax) are in great shape going forward. Even those that started collecting Ohtani in 2021 I am sure are happy with the price they paid for their cards.

I was thinking what would someone entering the hobby now or in the near future think about starting to collect Ohtani? To them today's prices are going to seem normal. I really don't see demand slowing down (unless the economy goes into a recession).

At the same time I am not sure why I am hesitant to pay today's prices. I can't just stop collecting Ohtani and just sit on my collection. I am going to have to be patient and strategic I guess this off season.

ldunn44 · 11-14-2025, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjrpilot

Well this arrived about an hour ago. Really glad to add it to my pc.

2013 BBM Ohtani rookie. This was his very first flagship rookie card. I think that as people start to dig into his card catalog they'll want to add his first RC.

Let's go baby

Great Card

ThoseBackPages · 11-14-2025, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjrpilot

Well this arrived about an hour ago. Really glad to add it to my pc.

2013 BBM Ohtani rookie. This was his very first flagship rookie card. I think that as people start to dig into his card catalog they'll want to add his first RC.

MY MAN!

welcome to the club!

jjrpilot · 11-14-2025, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanrs1

It appears to me that virtually all Ohtani RC cards are hitting all time highs (or near all time highs). So what is everyone's buying strategy going forward?

Obviously people that were opening a ton of wax in 2018 (or did not open their wax) are in great shape going forward. Even those that started collecting Ohtani in 2021 I am sure are happy with the price they paid for their cards.

I was thinking what would someone entering the hobby now or in the near future think about starting to collect Ohtani? To them today's prices are going to seem normal. I really don't see demand slowing down (unless the economy goes into a recession).

At the same time I am not sure why I am hesitant to pay today's prices. I can't just stop collecting Ohtani and just sit on my collection. I am going to have to be patient and strategic I guess this off season.

If you want to keep pursuing Ohtani...I'd suggest looking into his Japanese rooks. The pop reports are quite startling.

For instance:
2013 BBM First edition #183: PSA pop report is 769
2018 Topps Update #US1: PSA pop report is 26,805
2018 Topps Chrome Update #HMT1: PSA pop report is 10,200
2018 Topps #700: PSA pop report: 21,498

His Japanese rookies are fractions of what 18' Topps are...not including auto's and numbered stuff etc.

dodgerfanjohn · 11-14-2025, 06:19 PM

Do what I'm doing right now and go through all your 2018 binders and pull any nice Ohtani out to send to PSA. Frankly, I'm doing it with Judge and 2017's also,

So far I have every base and insert for Ohtani from Archives, A&G, and the Topps factory set as well as a base archives snapshot and a A&G Cabinet top loader rookie. Chat GPT says its a PSA 8.5 but thats because its interpreting a dark mark at the top of the card as a stain, but that dark mark appears on every single copy of that card, including those slabbed as a PSA 10.

ThoseBackPages · 11-14-2025, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dodgerfanjohn

Do what I'm doing right now and go through all your 2018 binders and pull any nice Judge out to send to PSA. Frankly, I'm doing it with Judge and 2017's also,

So far I have every base and insert for Ohtani from Archives, A&G, and the Topps factory set as well as a base archives snapshot and a A&G Cabinet top loader rookie. Chat GPT says its a PSA 8.5 but thats because its interpreting a dark mark at the top of the card as a stain, but that dark mark appears on every single copy of that card, including those slabbed as a PSA 10.

i like this idea John!

Hellcat · 11-14-2025, 07:10 PM

Not a fan of non-liscensed cards I'm sure they will have there niche following but where he made his name is in the big leagues not the Japanese league. So because of this his pre-liscensed cards will have limited growth. Just my .02

ThoseBackPages · 11-14-2025, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Hellcat

Not a fan of non-liscensed cards I'm sure they will have there niche following but where he made his name is in the big leagues not the Japanese league. So because of this his pre-liscensed cards will have limited growth. Just my .02

BBM cards are totally licenced.

Sho was a superstar there before coming to MLB

Unlicenced cards are Panini/Leaf releases

jjrpilot · 11-14-2025, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

BBM cards are totally licenced.

Sho was a superstar there before coming to MLB

Unlicenced cards are Panini/Leaf releases

Bingo.

FatboyWu · 11-14-2025, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanrs1

It appears to me that virtually all Ohtani RC cards are hitting all time highs (or near all time highs). So what is everyone's buying strategy going forward?

Obviously people that were opening a ton of wax in 2018 (or did not open their wax) are in great shape going forward. Even those that started collecting Ohtani in 2021 I am sure are happy with the price they paid for their cards.

I was thinking what would someone entering the hobby now or in the near future think about starting to collect Ohtani? To them today's prices are going to seem normal. I really don't see demand slowing down (unless the economy goes into a recession).

At the same time I am not sure why I am hesitant to pay today's prices. I can't just stop collecting Ohtani and just sit on my collection. I am going to have to be patient and strategic I guess this off season.

I was a bit lucky, opened a ton of 2018 so had a nice start. Didn't really start my gold run until last winter and even that late in the game really glad I started then. Started the SSP and SP journey during spring training ish and even later in the game glad I started then and not now.

ctau00 · 11-14-2025, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dodgerfanjohn

Do what I'm doing right now and go through all your 2018 binders and pull any nice Judge out to send to PSA. Frankly, I'm doing it with Judge and 2017's also,

I kind of did this with '18 Ohtani's except not sending anything off to PSA or any other TPG. Didn't think to do the same with '17 Judge since he's had cards predating his rookie year since 2013.

ThoseBackPages · 11-14-2025, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ctau00

I kind of did this with '18 Ohtani's except not sending anything off to PSA or any other TPG. Didn't think to do the same with '17 Judge since he's had cards predating his rookie year since 2013.

so you didnt do any of it then? hahaha

Trueblue · 11-14-2025, 09:26 PM

Got excited from the October hype and added back a junior Gildtani - stuck in customs purgatory till today. My favorite set <3.

ThoseBackPages · 11-14-2025, 09:30 PM

WOW!!!!!!!!

ldunn44 · 11-14-2025, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hellcat

Not a fan of non-liscensed cards I'm sure they will have there niche following but where he made his name is in the big leagues not the Japanese league. So because of this his pre-liscensed cards will have limited growth. Just my .02

The card experienced a growth of approximately 3471% from 2018 to 2025. Not bad for a Japanese rookie card

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

BBM cards are totally licenced.

Sho was a superstar there before coming to MLB

Unlicenced cards are Panini/Leaf releases

Agreed 100%

sandyfrank · 11-14-2025, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trueblue

Got excited from the October hype and added back a junior Gildtani - stuck in customs purgatory till today. My favorite set <3.

Absolutely love that card congrats man.

Hellcat · 11-14-2025, 10:00 PM

That is a nice come up! I'm sorry I guess what I was saying is it's not his pro uniform which will always be the most desired.

Trueblue · 11-14-2025, 10:06 PM

Thanks, guys!

And BBM is a legit card and deservingly expensive. That said, I grew up with MLB and I only love MLB cards (and maybe some airbrushed 1st Bowman

). 30 teams in North America versus 12 teams on an island country - it's apples to oranges.

I however do completely understand the appeal. That's his origin and it can't be ignored.

ThoseBackPages · 11-14-2025, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trueblue

Thanks, guys!

And BBM is a legit card and deservingly expensive. That said, I grew up with MLB and I only love MLB cards (and maybe some airbrushed 1st Bowman

). 30 teams in North America versus 12 teams on an island country - it's apples to oranges.

I however do completely understand the appeal. That's his origin and it can't be ignored.

i think this stigma is starting to fade some

wiper · 11-14-2025, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dodgerfanjohn

So far I have every base and insert for Ohtani from Archives, A&G, and the Topps factory set as well as a base archives snapshot and a A&G Cabinet top loader rookie. Chat GPT says its a PSA 8.5 but thats because its interpreting a dark mark at the top of the card as a stain, but that dark mark appears on every single copy of that card.

chatgpt can do that?!? does it have to be a scan, or just a cell phone pic? that’s crazy

Trueblue · 11-14-2025, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

i think this stigma is starting to fade some

The talent gap is closing, yes, but it is a very different brand of baseball. MLB is also now the destination for many talented J-league players. Nomo/Ichiro, and now Sho blasted that door wide open. The stigma is changing but it's not necessarily gaining parity with MLB.

Also, credit where credit is due. California is larger than Japan in terms of size. Imagine fitting 12 teams in California with high quality talent. Baseball is LOVED in Japan. Arguably more so than the country it originated from.

ThoseBackPages · 11-14-2025, 10:40 PM

i am not saying that NBP has or ever will catch MLB as a whole

MLB is the top of the mountain. NBPers are coming to the MLB
not the other way around (unless you are MLB washed)

what i am saying is that traditionally NBP Players have
been looked as as "less than" as far as talent. that is
where the stigma begain. That is certainly changing.

i am in no way saying that NBP Cards (even Sho's)
will be "worth more" than MLB Cards. There certainly
is room for both in the hobby particularly when most
new folks will be priced out on 2018 Sho stuff.

Ohtani and now Yoshi have shined a HUGE spotlight
on what can come out of the NBP (that is if Nomo and
Ichiro were not impressive enough)

Trueblue · 11-14-2025, 10:45 PM

I can get behind that

On a side note, imagine having an Aaron Judge or Bobby Jr. being plucked out of MLB and moving to an elite alien league where games are being played while you're sleeping. Not only that, but you never stop following Aaron/Bobby and stay up late/get up early just to watch them play live. That's Japan.

11-14-2025, 02:53 PM	#34102
jjrpilot Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: USA Posts: 2,307	Well this arrived about an hour ago. Really glad to add it to my pc. 2013 BBM Ohtani rookie. This was his very first flagship rookie card. I think that as people start to dig into his card catalog they'll want to add his first RC. __________________ PC: Ichiro - Mahomes - Soto

11-14-2025, 05:36 PM	#34103
seanrs1 Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,926	It appears to me that virtually all Ohtani RC cards are hitting all time highs (or near all time highs). So what is everyone's buying strategy going forward? Obviously people that were opening a ton of wax in 2018 (or did not open their wax) are in great shape going forward. Even those that started collecting Ohtani in 2021 I am sure are happy with the price they paid for their cards. I was thinking what would someone entering the hobby now or in the near future think about starting to collect Ohtani? To them today's prices are going to seem normal. I really don't see demand slowing down (unless the economy goes into a recession). At the same time I am not sure why I am hesitant to pay today's prices. I can't just stop collecting Ohtani and just sit on my collection. I am going to have to be patient and strategic I guess this off season. __________________ PC-#1 Ohtani PC-Acuna, Soto, Tatis Jr., JRod, Vladdy Jr. Starting to collect-Judge, Betts, Trout Bag holder-#1 Wander Franco, #2 Tatis Jr.

11-14-2025, 06:19 PM	#34107
dodgerfanjohn Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 5,422 sternroolz	Do what I'm doing right now and go through all your 2018 binders and pull any nice Ohtani out to send to PSA. Frankly, I'm doing it with Judge and 2017's also, So far I have every base and insert for Ohtani from Archives, A&G, and the Topps factory set as well as a base archives snapshot and a A&G Cabinet top loader rookie. Chat GPT says its a PSA 8.5 but thats because its interpreting a dark mark at the top of the card as a stain, but that dark mark appears on every single copy of that card, including those slabbed as a PSA 10. Last edited by dodgerfanjohn; 11-14-2025 at 09:06 PM.

11-14-2025, 09:30 PM	#34116
ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 90,363 ThoseBackPages	WOW!!!!!!!! __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

11-14-2025, 10:40 PM	#34124
ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 90,363 ThoseBackPages	i am not saying that NBP has or ever will catch MLB as a whole MLB is the top of the mountain. NBPers are coming to the MLB not the other way around (unless you are MLB washed) what i am saying is that traditionally NBP Players have been looked as as "less than" as far as talent. that is where the stigma begain. That is certainly changing. i am in no way saying that NBP Cards (even Sho's) will be "worth more" than MLB Cards. There certainly is room for both in the hobby particularly when most new folks will be priced out on 2018 Sho stuff. Ohtani and now Yoshi have shined a HUGE spotlight on what can come out of the NBP (that is if Nomo and Ichiro were not impressive enough) __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

11-14-2025, 02:44 PM	#34101
ballislife Member Join Date: Sep 2025 Posts: 24	There's a nice CRASO blue auto BGS 9.5/10 min gem that recently showed up on eBay. $80K plus free shipping! There is a BCRASO blue auto PSA 10 in Fanatics Premier at 120K with 6 days to go. I feel like 80K is a fair price for the BGS 9.5. Crazy to think 80K is a fair price...I wish I had 80K to spend...

11-14-2025, 07:10 PM	#34109
Hellcat Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Posts: 2,426	Not a fan of non-liscensed cards I'm sure they will have there niche following but where he made his name is in the big leagues not the Japanese league. So because of this his pre-liscensed cards will have limited growth. Just my .02

11-14-2025, 09:26 PM	#34115
Trueblue Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: socal Posts: 6,769	Got excited from the October hype and added back a junior Gildtani - stuck in customs purgatory till today. My favorite set <3.

11-14-2025, 10:00 PM	#34119
Hellcat Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Posts: 2,426	That is a nice come up! I'm sorry I guess what I was saying is it's not his pro uniform which will always be the most desired.

11-14-2025, 10:06 PM	#34120
Trueblue Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: socal Posts: 6,769	Thanks, guys! And BBM is a legit card and deservingly expensive. That said, I grew up with MLB and I only love MLB cards (and maybe some airbrushed 1st Bowman ). 30 teams in North America versus 12 teams on an island country - it's apples to oranges. I however do completely understand the appeal. That's his origin and it can't be ignored.

11-14-2025, 10:45 PM	#34125
Trueblue Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: socal Posts: 6,769	I can get behind that On a side note, imagine having an Aaron Judge or Bobby Jr. being plucked out of MLB and moving to an elite alien league where games are being played while you're sleeping. Not only that, but you never stop following Aaron/Bobby and stay up late/get up early just to watch them play live. That's Japan.