2012 LEAF Memories- 1990 Leaf Tribute

[THE(NEXT)LEVEL]

I had a lot of these from the first release including 3 of the Frank Thomas autos. When they released the second edition with the same auto subjects just with different stamping on front, I got rid of everything. If charlatan BG would have just kept it the one series, these would be waaaaaay more popular than they are.

[majestik101]

Originally Posted by Skipscards

You got the Ozzie Smith buy back auto? That’s crazy! Do you have a pic of it?

It's currently in storage, but next time I'm at the unit, I'll dig it out and snap pics for proof

[Cactuspies]

Originally Posted by majestik101

This was a great set to pick up singles of. I managed to grab low numbered buy back autographs of Rickey Henderson, Tony Gwynn and Ozzie Smith for cheap years ago

Going through some of my old images, I see I pulled a Fisk, Eric Davis, Nolan Ryan, Cal Ripken, Chili Davis & Robin Yount from 2013. All numbered to unis, yeah, that Ozzie, is fire being 1/1.

found this in one of my old threads for 2012 pulls:

Dave Parker 4/39
Glenn Davis 25/27
Eddie Murray 12/33
Juan Berenguer 3/40
Al Newman 21/26
Jeff Reardon 38/41
RYNE SANDBERG 4/23
Jim Deshaies 3/43
David West 4/50
WADE BOGGS 6/26
RANDY JOHNSON 48/51

Retro Autos /25
Jim Palmer 10/25
Jim Bunning 11/25
Paul Molitor 17/25

Tommy Lasorda PRINTING PLATE AUTO 1/1

Retro Prospect Autos /25
Max Fried 25/25
Nomar Mazara 16/25
Michael Zunino 24/25
Jorge Soler 24/25

Oh yeah....Albert Pujols 23/25 Retro Auto!

[majestik101]

My Ozzie Smith isn't a 1/1. It's low numbered though, like to 18 or similar.

Could be from the 2013 release?

Sorry, I'm not up on the Leaf release history

[Skipscards]

Originally Posted by Cactuspies

Going through some of my old images, I see I pulled a Fisk, Eric Davis, Nolan Ryan, Cal Ripken, Chili Davis & Robin Yount from 2013. All numbered to unis, yeah, that Ozzie, is fire being 1/1.

found this in one of my old threads for 2012 pulls:

Dave Parker 4/39
Glenn Davis 25/27
Eddie Murray 12/33
Juan Berenguer 3/40
Al Newman 21/26
Jeff Reardon 38/41
RYNE SANDBERG 4/23
Jim Deshaies 3/43
David West 4/50
WADE BOGGS 6/26
RANDY JOHNSON 48/51

Retro Autos /25
Jim Palmer 10/25
Jim Bunning 11/25
Paul Molitor 17/25

Tommy Lasorda PRINTING PLATE AUTO 1/1

Retro Prospect Autos /25
Max Fried 25/25
Nomar Mazara 16/25
Michael Zunino 24/25
Jorge Soler 24/25

Oh yeah....Albert Pujols 23/25 Retro Auto!

Love it!! Have a pic of the Pujols somewhere?

Originally Posted by majestik101

My Ozzie Smith isn't a 1/1. It's low numbered though, like to 18 or similar.

Could be from the 2013 release?

Sorry, I'm not up on the Leaf release history

Yeah, the 2012 buybacks were all numbered to the player’s jersey. The Ozzie is 1/1 and was the big chase for this release. My girls hit Valenzuela which I sold long ago, and this which we still have…

[BrianGray]

Originally Posted by THE(NEXT)LEVEL

I had a lot of these from the first release including 3 of the Frank Thomas autos. When they released the second edition with the same auto subjects just with different stamping on front, I got rid of everything. If charlatan BG would have just kept it the one series, these would be waaaaaay more popular than they are.

Thanks for remembering me.....

Your word choice however is suspect. A charlatan is a person who pretends to have knowledge, skills, or credentials they don't possess, with the intent to deceive others.

I have all of those above traits in spades (knowledge, skills and credentials).

If you want to claim we should never have done other buybacks, fine.

But, to avoid being a hypocrite, please include every card manufacturer ever in your "thoughts".

WHAT IF PANINI HAD NEVER MADE ANOTHER MAHOMES DOWNTOWN AFTER THE FIRST ONE? Yes, it would be worth more, but NO it wouldnt have been right for the hobby.

I know you always loved me and were a big fan, so ill just postulate that your above opinions are a product of your long time bias versus reality.

Enjoy the hobby, OOPS, I man business.

BG

[88horsepower]

I realize this is from the 25th Anniversary set, but I really love this one. I bought it quite a while ago for next to nothing. When 1990 Leaf first came out and started climbing in value, packs were so expensive that as a 13-year-old kid I couldn't really afford them. That didn't stop me from buying a pack or two at $10 a pop which was insane money for a pack of new cards in 1990. I pulled a Carlos Baerga, which was a very hot card in the early 90s and was quite thrilled. That card always brings back good memories for me, so I was very pleased to have bought the autographed buyback.

[Skipscards]

Originally Posted by 88horsepower

I realize this is from the 25th Anniversary set, but I really love this one. I bought it quite a while ago for next to nothing. When 1990 Leaf first came out and started climbing in value, packs were so expensive that as a 13-year-old kid I couldn't really afford them. That didn't stop me from buying a pack or two at $10 a pop which was insane money for a pack of new cards in 1990. I pulled a Carlos Baerga, which was a very hot card in the early 90s and was quite thrilled. That card always brings back good memories for me, so I was very pleased to have bought the autographed buyback.

Still awesome! In the late 80s/early 90s, there aren’t a lot of “iconic” sets. 1989 Upper Deck is one, 1991 Stadium Club, and 1990 Leaf are about as close at it gets. For not having a license, the buyback approach was fantastic. They’ve also done some great HOF cut autos of forgotten/lesser known HOFers which has helped my collection tremendously…

[majestik101]

Originally Posted by Skipscards

Yeah, the 2012 buybacks were all numbered to the player’s jersey. The Ozzie is 1/1 and was the big chase for this release. My girls hit Valenzuela which I sold long ago, and this which we still have…

Ah, makes sense now. Sorry to get everyone's hopes up.

[auburn35]

As a fan of buybacks, this was easily my favorite release from leaf.

That Ozzie 1/1 would be fun to find. I still have the Rickey jersey number 24/24, along with a nice Frank Thomas RC.

[Archangel1775]

I was going to say, those buybacks were a pretty cool set. When I actually look through my collection and run into a 1990 Leaf Thomas or Sosa I always think it'd be cool to get it autographed. Only a Buyback would be better. Not sure if Leaf killed it by doing something like the same Buyback every year but even if that was done, it'd be still cool to add one to the collection.

Edited to add: Caught up on the last few comments. Yes, I'd probably be irritated if Leaf only did the buybacks 1 year so going after a Frank Thomas with a print run of XX would suck 13 years later. So there is that side of the coin too.

[THE(NEXT)LEVEL]

Originally Posted by BrianGray

Thanks for remembering me.....

Your word choice however is suspect. A charlatan is a person who pretends to have knowledge, skills, or credentials they don't possess, with the intent to deceive others.

I have all of those above traits in spades (knowledge, skills and credentials).

If you want to claim we should never have done other buybacks, fine.

But, to avoid being a hypocrite, please include every card manufacturer ever in your "thoughts".

WHAT IF PANINI HAD NEVER MADE ANOTHER MAHOMES DOWNTOWN AFTER THE FIRST ONE? Yes, it would be worth more, but NO it wouldnt have been right for the hobby.

I know you always loved me and were a big fan, so ill just postulate that your above opinions are a product of your long time bias versus reality.

Enjoy the hobby, OOPS, I man business.

BG

Maybe my post was too hard for you to comprehend, so let me break it down in terms that my 9 year old would understand oh knowledgeable one. Panini making Mahomes DTs every year is different, bc even though they are DTs, they are different cards over each year.

With your memories sets for example, you used the 1990 Leaf Thomas and stamped it, then in you following release, you used the SAME card and just changed the stamp. At that point, I did not trust you to not pump out the same cards over and over, therefore totally diluting each subjects auto count.

Is that easier to understand, or should I draw it in crayon? PS, you have the deception part of the definition down pat.

[tonedef2oo8]

Originally Posted by BrianGray

Thanks for remembering me.....

Your word choice however is suspect. A charlatan is a person who pretends to have knowledge, skills, or credentials they don't possess, with the intent to deceive others.

I have all of those above traits in spades (knowledge, skills and credentials).

If you want to claim we should never have done other buybacks, fine.

But, to avoid being a hypocrite, please include every card manufacturer ever in your "thoughts".

WHAT IF PANINI HAD NEVER MADE ANOTHER MAHOMES DOWNTOWN AFTER THE FIRST ONE? Yes, it would be worth more, but NO it wouldnt have been right for the hobby.

I know you always loved me and were a big fan, so ill just postulate that your above opinions are a product of your long time bias versus reality.

Enjoy the hobby, OOPS, I man business.

BG

Remember when you got banned for being sketchy?

And take care re-signing up is a insta ban . Adios

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by THE(NEXT)LEVEL

With your memories sets for example, you used the 1990 Leaf Thomas and stamped it, then in you following release, you used the SAME card and just changed the stamp. At that point, I did not trust you to not pump out the same cards over and over, therefore totally diluting each subjects auto count.

I'm only focusing on this aspect of the releases and I'm not sure how often 1990 Buybacks were released. I think releasing them very year would definitely dilute the $ value but the collectible value would still be there. Maybe spreading the releases out would be more advantageous in the long term for the $ value but if every year was numbered to the jersey number, I can't see that hurt the collector side of the hobby. With this thread, I'm actually interested in adding the rookies and a few HOFs to my collection.

[BrianGray]

Originally Posted by THE(NEXT)LEVEL

Maybe my post was too hard for you to comprehend, so let me break it down in terms that my 9 year old would understand oh knowledgeable one. Panini making Mahomes DTs every year is different, bc even though they are DTs, they are different cards over each year.

With your memories sets for example, you used the 1990 Leaf Thomas and stamped it, then in you following release, you used the SAME card and just changed the stamp. At that point, I did not trust you to not pump out the same cards over and over, therefore totally diluting each subjects auto count.

Is that easier to understand, or should I draw it in crayon? PS, you have the deception part of the definition down pat.

We did ONE additional buyback insert set, LOL...

You make it sound like we did this 20 times.

No deception with what we did.

You on the other hand are an #@#@#@#@#@#@#@, that isnbt deception .. its fact!

BG

[BrianGray]

Originally Posted by tonedef2oo8

Remember when you got banned for being sketchy?

And take care re-signing up is a insta ban . Adios

Actually, the Leaf CEO account was part of the deal where I sold Leaf.
This is my personal collector account.

Never got banned from BO Forums... LOL

Good try.
BG

[oldgoldy97]

[THE(NEXT)LEVEL]

Originally Posted by BrianGray

We did ONE additional buyback insert set, LOL...

You make it sound like we did this 20 times.

No deception with what we did.

You on the other hand are an #@#@#@#@#@#@#@, that isnbt deception .. its fact!

BG

Looking back, yes now you can say that, moron. I am saying AT THE TIME, I didn't trust you to not release more copies. I wasn't saying anything about deception with this product. I was saying the release of additional copies of certain cards. I bought the original Thomas because of the limited nature(I believe 35 copies), then you released more of the SAME card. I stopped buying Topps Archives signature because of the same thing. Believe me, you have had plenty of shady actions, I didn't mention this as shady. Reading comprehension is fundamental.

[Triple B]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

Brian Gray not having to take the high road because of his company vs anyone here that don't like him for their own reasons...this is going to be fun.

[ewokpelts]

Still a shame the leaf name Ended up with a crap company

[Skipscards]

I did not have a Brian Gray/Next Level flame war on my bingo card.

[NYRE2PECT]

Originally Posted by Skipscards

I did not have a Brian Gray/Next Level flame war on my bingo card.

[freddyb]

Originally Posted by BrianGray

We did ONE additional buyback insert set, LOL...

You make it sound like we did this 20 times.

No deception with what we did.

You on the other hand are an #@#@#@#@#@#@#@, that isnbt deception .. its fact!

BG

2015 25th Anniversary, correct? I have the complete 1990 Leaf Buyback Auto set from that.

[BrianGray]

Originally Posted by THE(NEXT)LEVEL

Looking back, yes now you can say that, moron. I am saying AT THE TIME, I didn't trust you to not release more copies. I wasn't saying anything about deception with this product. I was saying the release of additional copies of certain cards. I bought the original Thomas because of the limited nature(I believe 35 copies), then you released more of the SAME card. I stopped buying Topps Archives signature because of the same thing. Believe me, you have had plenty of shady actions, I didn't mention this as shady. Reading comprehension is fundamental.

IQ test competition? Ive got some cash to put up!

[BrianGray]

Originally Posted by ewokpelts

Still a shame the leaf name Ended up with a crap company

I sold it for $125 mil valuation, so It worked out ok for some of us.
BG