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Old 10-22-2025, 09:44 PM   #18601
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Do not own a football card, but have been thinking to add a 2000 Bowman Brady rookie. Do I go with a chrome PSA 8 or pay a little more and get a base bowman in a PSA 9? Pop is so much lower on the base, but chrome is usually king so that is where my dilemma is. Would be for my collection, but obviously want to think about future value as well. Thanks for any thoughts!
Take a look at a BGS 9 Bowman paper (base) and check the subgrades — prices on those usually run lower in a BGS slab compared to a PSA 9.
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Old 10-22-2025, 11:33 PM   #18602
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Do not own a football card, but have been thinking to add a 2000 Bowman Brady rookie. Do I go with a chrome PSA 8 or pay a little more and get a base bowman in a PSA 9? Pop is so much lower on the base, but chrome is usually king so that is where my dilemma is. Would be for my collection, but obviously want to think about future value as well. Thanks for any thoughts!
Way too common of a card. At that price you have a lot of options, why not something serial numbered? Or for a little more, splurge on a rookie auto!
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Old 10-23-2025, 10:59 AM   #18603
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Thoughts on Probstein leaving eBay? Just heard about it but the news has been out for a while

Thoughts on Snype?
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Old 10-23-2025, 11:00 AM   #18604
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Thoughts on Probstein leaving eBay? Just heard about it but the news has been out for a while

Thoughts on Snype?

Wait they’re leaving eBay?


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Old 10-23-2025, 11:06 AM   #18605
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Yes! Look up Probstein Snype
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Old 10-23-2025, 11:06 AM   #18606
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jrOanm...N0ZWluIHNueXBl

Sounds pretty cool!
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Old 10-23-2025, 11:26 AM   #18607
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not many thoughts from me. never really bought anything from him that i can remember.

didnt greg morris try his own marketplace as well? didnt work out so well for him. nobody can get as many eyes on a card as Ebay can.
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Old 10-23-2025, 11:52 AM   #18608
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not many thoughts from me. never really bought anything from him that i can remember.

didnt greg morris try his own marketplace as well? didnt work out so well for him. nobody can get as many eyes on a card as Ebay can.


Who’s Greg morris? Lol no offense to him but no comparison to Probstein

Hasn’t fantatics been doing really well since they (PWCC) left eBay?
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Old 10-23-2025, 12:39 PM   #18609
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Who’s Greg morris? Lol no offense to him but no comparison to Probstein

Hasn’t fantatics been doing really well since they (PWCC) left eBay?


Greg morris is probably the largest raw card seller on ebay (sold 9 million cards) and his raw cards routinely sell for more than psa graded copies.

he is a pretty big deal on ebay

fanatics is a little different because they are worth, what, $18 Billion and can throw money/advertising at anything they want to do.
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Old 10-23-2025, 12:47 PM   #18610
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Greg morris is probably the largest raw card seller on ebay (sold 9 million cards) and his raw cards routinely sell for more than psa graded copies.

he is a pretty big deal on ebay

fanatics is a little different because they are worth, what, $18 Billion and can throw money/advertising at anything they want to do.

Ah, wonder why his own site was a flop then?

Fantatics, goldin, heritage (?), etc seem to be doing great, I bet Snype is going to be huge

Most of the time people will buy graded over raw, especially if it’s expensive. Way too hard to judge just by a front and back picture, since raw you can turn it slightly and see something at different angles


As far as raw selling for more than PSA graded copies, what PSA grades? Can’t imagine a raw selling for more than a 10 or 9 since they’re graded
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Old 10-23-2025, 12:55 PM   #18611
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Ah, wonder why his own site was a flop then?

Fantatics, goldin, heritage (?), etc seem to be doing great, I bet Snype is going to be huge

Most of the time people will buy graded over raw, especially if it’s expensive. Way too hard to judge just by a front and back picture, since raw you can turn it slightly and see something at different angles


As far as raw selling for more than PSA graded copies, what PSA grades? Can’t imagine a raw selling for more than a 10 or 9 since they’re graded
It is very possible that Probstein will do great. I dont have any feelings good/bad towards him. I know that there are quite a few folks here on BO that do not like him at all.

It is very difficult to drive eyeballs to a site once they leave ebay. PWCC struggled after they were kicked off the bay. It really took the fanatics takeover and their deep pockets to make it what it is today.
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Old 10-24-2025, 11:43 AM   #18612
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I don't get the Probstein worship, very odd.

Anyway, another Contenders ticket sold for 35k OBO, so who knows the exact price but it was an Authentic. Can't imagine it went for anything less than 25-30k range considering the list price was 35. Looks like that argument about prices was put to bed. Not much of a counter-argument here to begin with other than illogic.
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Old 10-24-2025, 12:08 PM   #18613
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Another sold for 23k on the 19th. Authentic grade, 23k not sure if it was an offer lower it was crossed out. But there's two more Contenders sales in the past 5 days in addition to the two others we talked about. So the price has doubled + compared to prices 1-3 years ago after the bubble deflated, it's not an opinion but a fact. It's an obvious trend upwards, we'll see what happens but my hot take is we're going back to covid land price wise.
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Old 10-24-2025, 12:30 PM   #18614
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I don't get the Probstein worship, very odd.

Anyway, another Contenders ticket sold for 35k OBO, so who knows the exact price but it was an Authentic. Can't imagine it went for anything less than 25-30k range considering the list price was 35. Looks like that argument about prices was put to bed. Not much of a counter-argument here to begin with other than illogic.

Probstein worship? The biggest consignor on eBay, facts are facts lol

Wouldn’t be surprised if close to one billion has been sold by him, so odd to wonder how his new site is going to do
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Old 10-24-2025, 12:33 PM   #18615
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I don't get the Probstein worship, very odd.

Anyway, another Contenders ticket sold for 35k OBO, so who knows the exact price but it was an Authentic. Can't imagine it went for anything less than 25-30k range considering the list price was 35. Looks like that argument about prices was put to bed. Not much of a counter-argument here to begin with other than illogic.


Authentic/auto 8 on eBay for $19,999 obo

A few others in the mid $20’s with obo, probably too high or else they wouldn’t be on there still

Apparently you don’t know how high covid prices were
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Old 10-26-2025, 07:17 PM   #18616
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I think if I get a Brady auto I’m going to just get an early years or a Super Bowl winning year auto. I’m too nervous about fakes with his rookie cards at the price point I’m at. I think the only rookie auto I would go for is the round numbers auto but would have to save a up a bit for that and at that time I may be priced out


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Old 10-28-2025, 05:57 AM   #18617
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It is finally finished!!! Every Base Brady rookie card, 44 in total. After many years, here is a photo (it was really hard to get them all into one shot)

It really was a fun journey!

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Old 10-28-2025, 06:03 AM   #18618
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It is finally finished!!! Every Base Brady rookie card, 44 in total. After many years, here is a photo (it was really hard to get them all into one shot)

It really was a fun journey!

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That’s incredible! Congratulations!


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Old 10-28-2025, 07:57 AM   #18619
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It is finally finished!!! Every Base Brady rookie card, 44 in total. After many years, here is a photo (it was really hard to get them all into one shot)

It really was a fun journey!

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That's awesome! If you get a chance, see if you can post a bigger picture. I'd like to see the cards.
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Old 10-28-2025, 08:30 AM   #18620
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That's awesome! If you get a chance, see if you can post a bigger picture. I'd like to see the cards.
See if this is any better. I didnt want to have it be gigantic originally


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Old 10-28-2025, 08:34 AM   #18621
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I guess that is a little better. that is the biggest i can make it unless i pay for VIP with tapatalk. in the future, I plan on taking better images of the different brands of his rookies. ie. upper deck, playoff etc. it will be easier to get nice shots with fewer cards in frame.

with all 44 I had to try and get all of them in, without glare, and then tried to zoom in on the image of just the cards. didnt work out too well.
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Old 10-28-2025, 08:37 AM   #18622
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I think it is interesting that there are 4 upper deck cards that use the same image

the playoff contenders and momentum use almost the exact same image. looks like just a few frames difference.
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Old 10-28-2025, 08:47 AM   #18623
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Old 10-28-2025, 09:09 AM   #18624
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Is that a rookie ticket auto in there? Can’t see


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Old 10-28-2025, 09:22 AM   #18625
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Is that a rookie ticket auto in there? Can’t see


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It sure is!! it is a BGS 8.5/10
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