Kevin Durant’s hobby following will most closely reflect that of which NBA legend’s

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by Beavers98

Who are the people saying he will be collected like Kobe... HAHA not a chance.

Yeah, that's just ridiculous. Especially now with Kobe's untimely death -- it perversely enhanced his legacy, not unlike other cultural icons of the past like JFK and John Lennon.

[blackvodka]

I'm not sold that Durantula is really going to be that sought after 15+ years from now.

RCs in his Sonics Uni won't be super sought after. His cards in his Thunder Uni are likely to catch fire either. Warrior collectors will clearly want Curry over Durant. Even most of Klay's stuff isn't super popular but most Warrior fans will want his stuff over Durant in time. His cards in his Nets Uni or Suns Uni won't be that desirable by most either.

Will Durant really be collected more than someone like Dirk? Both have one MVP and most people would value Dirks one chip over Durants two with the Warriors super team.

If Durant has a very strong run in Houston that could have some say in this though. He is an elite scorer and his practices are works of art.

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[blackvodka]

Originally Posted by DR Murph

Totally agree—should’ve just stayed in GS.

Yeah, GS winning another chip after he left is the main problem for him in terms of perception. Most people agree that Durant was the best player on the dubs when he was there and his overall card value would probably reflect that.

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[TheVolta]

Durant just doesn’t have that one teams fan base that loves him…. He’s on his sixth team if you count playing in Seattle for his ROY season. His championships are weirdly ugly because the team he joined to win them had already won and then won again after he left. He is undoubtedly an all time great but is any kid going to look back at his time with their team very fondly? Sure GS was fun, but they didn’t NEED him and from what I recall OKC fans were pretty mad at him for leaving in his prime. Also with OKC winning a title, people will remember that. Not the years of almost.

[Torro]

Originally Posted by TheVolta

Durant just doesn’t have that one teams fan base that loves him…. He’s on his sixth team if you count playing in Seattle for his ROY season. His championships are weirdly ugly because the team he joined to win them had already won and then won again after he left. He is undoubtedly an all time great but is any kid going to look back at his time with their team very fondly? Sure GS was fun, but they didn’t NEED him and from what I recall OKC fans were pretty mad at him for leaving in his prime. Also with OKC winning a title, people will remember that. Not the years of almost.

That exactly is the issue with the way KD is viewed, it’s all about what others did (GSW and even OKC) than what he has been doing on the basketball court. So if GSW and OKC didn’t win the past years KD would look better? It’s really rigged way of viewing someone’s talent based on what others did or did not (OKC 10 years later for example).

Looking ahead 10-20 years, does anyone care about Lakers and Kobe winning 2 without Shaq, has it been decreasing the legacy of Shaq? It added to Kobe legacy but I don’t think it took anything away from Shaq

[jcmel323]

If Kevin Durant didn’t have a market in the collectibles world, then how come his cheapest Buy It Now Auto card on eBay right now is $180?
Meanwhile, I can find Buy It Now Auto cards for under $180 of players like Jerry West, Karl Malone, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, David Robinson, Oscar Robertson, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Hakeem Olajuwon, and Charles Barkley.

There's definitely a market for KD in the hobby. Stop it!

[cms11]

Originally Posted by jcmel323

If Kevin Durant didn’t have a market in the collectibles world, then how come his cheapest Buy It Now Auto card on eBay right now is $180?
Meanwhile, I can find Buy It Now Auto cards for under $180 of players like Jerry West, Karl Malone, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, David Robinson, Oscar Robertson, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Hakeem Olajuwon, and Charles Barkley.

There's definitely a market for KD in the hobby. Stop it!

Because he's a current player. His autos will be cheap after he retires.

[cms11]

Originally Posted by TheVolta

Durant just doesn’t have that one teams fan base that loves him…. He’s on his sixth team if you count playing in Seattle for his ROY season. His championships are weirdly ugly because the team he joined to win them had already won and then won again after he left. He is undoubtedly an all time great but is any kid going to look back at his time with their team very fondly? Sure GS was fun, but they didn’t NEED him and from what I recall OKC fans were pretty mad at him for leaving in his prime. Also with OKC winning a title, people will remember that. Not the years of almost.

I'm no KD fan, but that's unfair. 6th jersey he's worn, but only 5 teams.

[hermanotarjeta]

Another factor determining Durant card demand in the future is that most his career was during the panini era.

It’s mind-boggling how many Durant cards serial-numbered to 49 or less that you can find any time of the day for less than $10. Are these a super bargain right now or will they stay stagnant or get even cheaper with time?

[hermanotarjeta]

Speaking of Durant, he was just extended two more years by the Rockets for $90M.

No “decision” anytime soon.

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Another factor determining Durant card demand in the future is that most his career was during the panini era.

It’s mind-boggling how many Durant cards serial-numbered to 49 or less that you can find any time of the day for less than $10. Are these a super bargain right now or will they stay stagnant or get even cheaper with time?

On the flip side, you'll see the same thing with Topps' endless junk parallels. The difference is his most-desirable inserts will be from the Panini era -- I've still got his OG Downtown card.

Edit: his rookie cards were pre-Panini era

[gomiamigo]

Originally Posted by mfw13

The issue for KD is that the perception is that he's never led a team to a title.

2 Finals MVPs and guarding Lebron part of that time is the very definition of leading your team to the title.

Prior year Steph and co blew a 3-1 lead, Steph couldn't even shake Kevin Love on their last possession and then he gave up the game winning shot.

GSW mgmt knew they weren't beating the Cavs big 3 without Durant. He lead them to the title.

[gomiamigo]

also he is not gonna pass 'several' guys, the most he can pass is probably 4 and Kobe is certainly no gimme. He's already 8th alltime.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by gomiamigo

also he is not gonna pass 'several' guys, the most he can pass is probably 4 and Kobe is certainly no gimme. He's already 8th alltime.

Isn’t that the definition of several?

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by gomiamigo

2 Finals MVPs and guarding Lebron part of that time is the very definition of leading your team to the title.

Prior year Steph and co blew a 3-1 lead, Steph couldn't even shake Kevin Love on their last possession and then he gave up the game winning shot.

GSW mgmt knew they weren't beating the Cavs big 3 without Durant. He lead them to the title.

Curry was dealing with a health issue -- Iguodala was the primary defender on LeBron.

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Speaking of Durant, he was just extended two more years by the Rockets for $90M.

No “decision” anytime soon.

The highest-paid player all-time (most career salary earnings) -- $598.20 versus LeBron's $583.90.

[drobfan8]

Originally Posted by gomiamigo

2 Finals MVPs and guarding Lebron part of that time is the very definition of leading your team to the title.

Prior year Steph and co blew a 3-1 lead, Steph couldn't even shake Kevin Love on their last possession and then he gave up the game winning shot.

GSW mgmt knew they weren't beating the Cavs big 3 without Durant. He lead them to the title.

Everyone watched Steph get doubled and KD left wide.open.

KD is a mercenary. Not a leader. Still great. Just not on Steph's level of greatness.

Kinda like Kawhi and Tony Parker getting a FMVP on Tim Duncan's watch.

KD just got lucky landing on a team like GS. Because his resume as far as winning isn't on a level like the top 10 guys. He's like Akeem to me. Who was probably better to be fair.

KD is nicely priced. Too many team swaps.

[Torro]

Originally Posted by drobfan8

Everyone watched Steph get doubled and KD left wide.open.

KD is a mercenary. Not a leader. Still great. Just not on Steph's level of greatness.

Kinda like Kawhi and Tony Parker getting a FMVP on Tim Duncan's watch.

KD just got lucky landing on a team like GS. Because his resume as far as winning isn't on a level like the top 10 guys. He's like Akeem to me. Who was probably better to be fair.

KD is nicely priced. Too many team swaps.

Steph won a lot from this but KD lost all the respect, it’s funny how without these 2 chips that Durant gave them Steph would not be considered as one of the greatest and most loved player of the era. Steph got all the love and KD got all the hate lol

But does this make KD a less talented basketball player? It’s really weird situation, but I think it will fade once it’s all said and done, and Durant will be in min Shaq/Duncan/Wade/Dirk tier and praised for his scoring ability (one of the best offensive player who ever lived). Kobe was hated at end of his career, LeBron is hated right now, seems like a regular trend (why is there so much hate lol) let’s see how it plays out

[drobfan8]

Originally Posted by Torro

Steph won a lot from this but KD lost all the respect, it’s funny how without these 2 chips that Durant gave them Steph would not be considered as one of the greatest and most loved player of the era. Steph got all the love and KD got all the hate lol

But does this make KD a less talented basketball player? It’s really weird situation, but I think it will fade once it’s all said and done, and Durant will be in min Shaq/Duncan/Wade/Dirk tier and praised for his scoring ability (one of the best offensive player who ever lived). Kobe was hated at end of his career, LeBron is hated right now, seems like a regular trend (why is there so much hate lol) let’s see how it plays out

The thing is, KD would be on 0 titles without Steph.

Steph has 2 without KD.

Plus Steph may have won both titles if KD didn't come and with another player in his place any way.

Particularly KD's 2nd title when it was Bron and K. Love.

KD just wants to ball, he's been openly admitting that. It's not winning basketball at the highest level. He just isn't as good as Steph.

KD is sure as ish not in the Duncan, Shaq or Dirk tier, come on now. Maybe in the Wade tier seems spot on.

[Torro]

Originally Posted by drobfan8

The thing is, KD would be on 0 titles without Steph.

Steph has 2 without KD.

Plus Steph may have won both titles if KD didn't come and with another player in his place any way.

Particularly KD's 2nd title when it was Bron and K. Love.

KD just wants to ball, he's been openly admitting that. It's not winning basketball at the highest level. He just isn't as good as Steph.

KD is sure as ish not in the Duncan, Shaq or Dirk tier, come on now. Maybe in the Wade tier seems spot on.

Why not Dirk, 1 chip and 1 MVP, KD has 2 chips and scoring titles.

All this bs about “it’s Steph’s team etc” he wasn’t the finals MVP even for the 1st before KD. To me it feels like saying Shaq went to team up with Kobe to win anything, and he got 3 in a row (KD could have got the 3rd one also) and was the finals MVP in each. How is it sooooooooo sooooooooo diffferent really lol

I know Steph has more fans who want to take everything away from KD and give it all to Steph, but cmon man KD is a killer basketball player, no need to take anything away from him

[TheVolta]

Originally Posted by Torro

Why not Dirk, 1 chip and 1 MVP, KD has 2 chips and scoring titles.

All this bs about “it’s Steph’s team etc” he wasn’t the finals MVP even for the 1st before KD. To me it feels like saying Shaq went to team up with Kobe to win anything, and he got 3 in a row (KD could have got the 3rd one also) and was the finals MVP in each. How is it sooooooooo sooooooooo diffferent really lol

I know Steph has more fans who want to take everything away from KD and give it all to Steph, but cmon man KD is a killer basketball player, no need to take anything away from him

Shaq signed with LAL in 1996.
Kobe was drafted out of high school in 1996. Was not a starter in 96-97

KD signed with GS in 2016. He won MVP in 13-14.
Curry had just won back to back league MVPs in 14-15 and 15-16.

It’s really different.

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by Torro

Why not Dirk, 1 chip and 1 MVP, KD has 2 chips and scoring titles.

All this bs about “it’s Steph’s team etc” he wasn’t the finals MVP even for the 1st before KD. To me it feels like saying Shaq went to team up with Kobe to win anything, and he got 3 in a row (KD could have got the 3rd one also) and was the finals MVP in each. How is it sooooooooo sooooooooo diffferent really lol

I know Steph has more fans who want to take everything away from KD and give it all to Steph, but cmon man KD is a killer basketball player, no need to take anything away from him

Because KD hasn’t done anything without Steph, not the other way around

Couldn’t win with the super team in OKC, couldn’t win with the stacked team in BKN, did nothing with all that talent in Phoenix.

[swizzleswirl]

I’d argue most people have KD landing in the 15–20 range all-time. His public perception in the hobby is what it is but that will fade over time. all that’ll remain are the stats and YouTube highlights. I think his rarer RCs from Topps/Bowman Chrome and UD are undervalued. Maybe we’ll see a 2x bump after retirement if the hobby stays strong and his public image changes (get him a on pre/post game show and make him a pop culture star).

KD's biggest issue IMO he doesn’t have a truly defining moment. He hit a big 3 over LeBron in gm3 of the 2017 finals but I never hear anyone talk about it.

[asujbl]

People care about KD? That’s just wild

Dude will retire, we will talk about it for a week, and he’s vanishes like a fart in the wind

He’s the most “who gives a crap” player ever that will probably retire as a Top 15-20 talent

He’s the worst

[Bosoxfan5990]

Originally Posted by asujbl

People care about KD? That’s just wild

Dude will retire, we will talk about it for a week, and he’s vanishes like a fart in the wind

He’s the most “who gives a crap” player ever that will probably retire as a Top 15-20 talent

He’s the worst

Agreed.