Players you thought were in the Hall of fame but are not.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by PuddleMonkey

Christ you two, do I not cheap shot the Yankees enough on this board for you to notice this is my thing?

And you don't dare bring up Mattingly and the HOF without mentioning Strawberry first.

You can't take cheap shots and not expect shots back. That seems a bit cowardly don't you think?

[kaisersoze]

matt williams

[Skipscards]

Originally Posted by no10pin

Tim Raines is in the HOF.

As are Dave Parker and Orlando Cepeda.

[DrSicPkl]

Originally Posted by no10pin

For some reason I always thought Vida Blue was in the Hall, but I found out fairly recently he wasn't.

Quietly removes Vida Blue auto from HOF autos binder...

[Handsome Wes]

Originally Posted by StateEx

Really? That surprises me too.

This was in reference to Luis Tiant, and the fact that you said "really?" just made me question whether or not I was correct by saying he was out of the Hall.

[no10pin]

Originally Posted by Handsome Wes

This was in reference to Luis Tiant, and the fact that you said "really?" just made me question whether or not I was correct by saying he was out of the Hall.

I just looked at Tiant's voting numbers, and it's really weird. He got 30.9% his first time on the ballot, which would lead you to believe that he'd slowly add votes until he eventually got in.

He never got higher than that number again, and barely survived the 4th ballot with 7.2%. I know his first ballot was fairly weak, with only Stargell going in on the first ballot that year, but I'm surprised he never got up to that number again.

[JoshMN]

This is a really weird thread.

If you can provide an honest answer to this thread, then I feel like you are one of the following: 1) really young (so haven't had time to learn about who is actually in the HOF), 2) a very casual baseball fan ("oh, baseball has a HOF? I wonder who's in it!"), 3) not a fan of the baseball HOF ("I don't care or even want to know who is a member of that godforsaken institution"), 4) someone without any intellectual curiosity ("I'm just going to pretend that I know who is in the HOF because I can't be bothered to actually look at a list of 200 or 300 names anytime I wonder... hey is that guy in the HOF"), 5) really old (can't remember anything).

It's not like I have the list memorized, but someone wrote "Dave Parker" FFS. If you didn't know he was a 2025 inductee (less than 3 months ago) then you have to fall in one of those categories above.

Sorry if I am insulting anyone.

[ottobord]

Originally Posted by JoshMN

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Sorry if I am insulting anyone.

Not insulted, good observation I was thinking the same thing. I thought Maris was in when I was really young. 7 or 8 years old in the 1970's. Also information sources weren't as readily available back then. But then I was determined to learn as much as I could. But some of the answers are somewhat stunning.

[Tom Oates]

Originally Posted by rats60

That is one story, but his family says that he wanted to be with his family in California during World War II instead of on the other side of the country in Pittsburgh. Those three years cost him in counting stats like many other superstars of that era, Williams, DiMaggio, Musial, Greenberg, Feller, Mize.

Overall though, Vaughan was really underrated during his career. He led the NL in WAR in 1934, finishing 4th in BA, 1st in OBP and 6th in SLG and finished 23rd in MVP voting. He had what many consider the 2nd greatest season by a SS in 1935 and was robbed of the MVP, finishing third. He hit .385/.491/.607 OPS+190 all leading the league and was worth 9.8 WAR. He again led the league in WAR in 1936 and didn't get a single MVP vote. 5th in BA, 1st in OBP and 6th in OPS+. He had another huge season, 8.9 WAR, in 1938 and finished 3rd in MVP voting when he should have been at least second. His offernsive numbers for a SS were insane with a career OPS+ of 136, trailing only Honus Wagner and part time SS and full time steroid user Alex Rodriguez.

I have two of his autographs, on a 1935 Pirates team ball and a PSA slabbed cut. He is a tougher auto having died in 1952 and an overlooked autograph target during his career.

I was looking at his career WAR. If you factor in the three missed years, he likely would have had a career WAR north of 90!

[dantheman514]

Originally Posted by ottobord

Not insulted, good observation I was thinking the same thing. I thought Maris was in when I was really young. 7 or 8 years old in the 1970's. Also information sources weren't as readily available back then. But then I was determined to learn as much as I could. But some of the answers are somewhat stunning.

I had the same thoughts when I was a kid; my little boy brain just assumed the single season home run king was a hall of famer. I remember being completely shocked when I learned he wasn't in the Hall; I couldn't have been older than 10 at the time.

[corndog]

Maury Wills