Topps 582 Montgomery Club

[airharrison21]

These boxes are about to skyrocket in price even more now haha

[Boo]

Originally Posted by Bob Ross

EQL is the pretense that it is available. That's the sad part.

Pass on EQL, moss would get some then

[Bosoxfan5990]

Originally Posted by Boredlawyer

The downside is spending a couple minutes clicking refresh. If we are on Blowout, our time isn't that important. It's the same logic as getting upset because I didn't win the McDonald's Monopoly game.

You didn't win the McDonald's Monopoly game because it was rigged.

[mossoholic]

Originally Posted by Boo

Pass on EQL, moss would get some then

I don't want EQL. I want fair auctions. Hell, I'll even take manipulated auctions over no auctions. What good is getting 3-5 boxes here and there and making $30-$100 a box going to do long term? Regular releases worth getting on Topps are basically proven to be impossible now so very rarely will get anything there. Cases there is no chance on anything worth mentioning.

[bg17]

Originally Posted by Jaypers

No mention of EQL in Bowman Chrome Sapphire when it goes live for sale to the public tomorrow. Expect it to sell out immediately.

It was sold out at 11:57. Go figure

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[dunquixote1]

I opened my MC box. It was poop. I won’t bore you with the details.

[Bob Ross]

Originally Posted by mossoholic

I don't want EQL. I want fair auctions.

[mossoholic]

Originally Posted by Bob Ross

I've literally been saying this since it started. You can probably find 100+ posts over the last year or whatever it is. If you actually think I care about trying to make barely anything on 3-5 boxes of cheap EQL products over a chance to make real money you're even dumber than I already think you are. There is a very good chance I will make more money this year overall than I will make from Fanatics/Topps from 2026-2030 combined. That's not an exaggeration.

[yoyosh]

Glad I got my pre-sale box! Seems like an easy flip now

[Bob Ross]

Originally Posted by mossoholic

I've literally been saying this since it started. You can probably find 100+ posts over the last year or whatever it is. If you actually think I care about trying to make barely anything on 3-5 boxes of cheap EQL products over a chance to make real money you're even dumber than I already think you are. There is a very good chance I will make more money this year overall than I will make from Fanatics/Topps from 2026-2030 combined. That's not an exaggeration.

The EQL champ is here, everyone!

[ewokpelts]

What was the cost today vs last week?

[ewokpelts]

Originally Posted by mossoholic

I don't want EQL. I want fair auctions. Hell, I'll even take manipulated auctions over no auctions. What good is getting 3-5 boxes here and there and making $30-$100 a box going to do long term? Regular releases worth getting on Topps are basically proven to be impossible now so very rarely will get anything there. Cases there is no chance on anything worth mentioning.

No one wants auctions. How #@#@#@#@ing stupid is that?!

[JAM061200]

Originally Posted by ewokpelts

What was the cost today vs last week?

Not sure what last week was but the Sapphire Box was $350 today

[BayAreaChris]

Same price. $350 last week too.

[RainCityShecks]

Haven’t bought/opened much this year so I cracked my Monty box - wish the deGrom would have been the Julio or Harper instead -



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[Rbradleigh]

Originally Posted by glassofwater

Does Topps ship these overnight now? I just got an email that the bowman chrome sapphire it’s out for delivery I’m in Seattle. I just got the email that the shipping label was made yesterday

Same. I’m picking mine up at local Seattle Fedex today

[glassofwater]

I ripped my box instead of selling I think I did okay?


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[Dukeboy73]

Got my box today and decided to open it. Love the Cam.

[mossoholic]

Originally Posted by ewokpelts

No one wants auctions. How #@#@#@#@ing stupid is that?!

The typical current BO member and cheap pos doesn't want auctions.

Some people in here are in the very small minority that still open personal boxes. Most will only open buying at a price well under market value. The vast majority on here only want to buy a product at a guaranteed profit price. They don't want to take any risks.

I think if fair auctions came back most people would want them. Meaning vast majority of the boxes being available. It's that most people are conditioned now to the way Panini has run auctions since late 2021. Panini sells a bunch under the table and nowhere near the full print run is available during the auctions even when most FOTL box counts are under 5000 and only a few are over 10,000 boxes. Go back and look at threads talking about FOTL products from 2019-2021. All the bigger ones had more views, comments, and interest than anything now. That's because the auctions were run fairly. Every normal person could buy and have a decent chance to make money.

Even with manipulated auctions you have a better chance than with Topps/Fanatics. Rookie Royalty WNBA boxes anyone could have bought as much as they wanted the last few drops. If you bought even a few drops from the floor and sold a few days after receiving in hand you made thousands of dollars per box. Not per case. Per box.

Prizm Black FOTL was just released. If you bought within the last couple drops you could have made big money. Well over $5k per case. How many products with Topps can you make $5k per case? One you can't even get the cases. Two even if you hit a needle in a haystack it's 1-2 cases max. With auctions you can buy as much as you want. Regardless of the resale value with Topps/Fanatics you can't get the quantity even if you're lucky enough to get an in demand product.

What is sometimes getting chosen or sometimes getting an order in on topps.com of 3-5 boxes to make at best a few hundred dollars going to do for most people? It's virtually impossible on both systems now to get cases so you're looking at 3-5 boxes max.

With Topps/Fanatics there is also a huge problem currently buying in demand product cases on the secondary market if you want to go that route. For whatever reason most of the in demand Topps products have a pretty big case premium. Unfortunately, Topps seals these with regular tape that anyone could open and reseal with another product or dud boxes. You can buy from the obvious sellers that your risk is minimal but you will have to pay even more and have less chance of making anything worth mentioning.

If you don't want auctions it's because you're too cheap, too stupid, or won't take any risks. With Topps systems now how can anyone not in the 0.01% make any real money?

[Boredlawyer]

Originally Posted by mossoholic

The typical current BO member and cheap pos doesn't want auctions.

Some people in here are in the very small minority that still open personal boxes. Most will only open buying at a price well under market value. The vast majority on here only want to buy a product at a guaranteed profit price. They don't want to take any risks.

I think if fair auctions came back most people would want them. Meaning vast majority of the boxes being available. It's that most people are conditioned now to the way Panini has run auctions since late 2021. Panini sells a bunch under the table and nowhere near the full print run is available during the auctions even when most FOTL box counts are under 5000 and only a few are over 10,000 boxes. Go back and look at threads talking about FOTL products from 2019-2021. All the bigger ones had more views, comments, and interest than anything now. That's because the auctions were run fairly. Every normal person could buy and have a decent chance to make money.

Even with manipulated auctions you have a better chance than with Topps/Fanatics. Rookie Royalty WNBA boxes anyone could have bought as much as they wanted the last few drops. If you bought even a few drops from the floor and sold a few days after receiving in hand you made thousands of dollars per box. Not per case. Per box.

Prizm Black FOTL was just released. If you bought within the last couple drops you could have made big money. Well over $5k per case. How many products with Topps can you make $5k per case? One you can't even get the cases. Two even if you hit a needle in a haystack it's 1-2 cases max. With auctions you can buy as much as you want. Regardless of the resale value with Topps/Fanatics you can't get the quantity even if you're lucky enough to get an in demand product.

What is sometimes getting chosen or sometimes getting an order in on topps.com of 3-5 boxes to make at best a few hundred dollars going to do for most people? It's virtually impossible on both systems now to get cases so you're looking at 3-5 boxes max.

With Topps/Fanatics there is also a huge problem currently buying in demand product cases on the secondary market if you want to go that route. For whatever reason most of the in demand Topps products have a pretty big case premium. Unfortunately, Topps seals these with regular tape that anyone could open and reseal with another product or dud boxes. You can buy from the obvious sellers that your risk is minimal but you will have to pay even more and have less chance of making anything worth mentioning.

If you don't want auctions it's because you're too cheap, too stupid, or won't take any risks. With Topps systems now how can anyone not in the 0.01% make any real money?

Long-winded rant ending with insulting the reader as too cheap or stupid.
Very compelling I'm sure. I agree with you. Or sorry for your loss whichever it is.

[StlBen]

Why do you say under the table sales? There is no secret illegal sales happening. Who hurt you?


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[ewokpelts]

Originally Posted by mossoholic

The typical current BO member and cheap pos doesn't want auctions.

Some people in here are in the very small minority that still open personal boxes. Most will only open buying at a price well under market value. The vast majority on here only want to buy a product at a guaranteed profit price. They don't want to take any risks.

I think if fair auctions came back most people would want them. Meaning vast majority of the boxes being available. It's that most people are conditioned now to the way Panini has run auctions since late 2021. Panini sells a bunch under the table and nowhere near the full print run is available during the auctions even when most FOTL box counts are under 5000 and only a few are over 10,000 boxes. Go back and look at threads talking about FOTL products from 2019-2021. All the bigger ones had more views, comments, and interest than anything now. That's because the auctions were run fairly. Every normal person could buy and have a decent chance to make money.

Even with manipulated auctions you have a better chance than with Topps/Fanatics. Rookie Royalty WNBA boxes anyone could have bought as much as they wanted the last few drops. If you bought even a few drops from the floor and sold a few days after receiving in hand you made thousands of dollars per box. Not per case. Per box.

Prizm Black FOTL was just released. If you bought within the last couple drops you could have made big money. Well over $5k per case. How many products with Topps can you make $5k per case? One you can't even get the cases. Two even if you hit a needle in a haystack it's 1-2 cases max. With auctions you can buy as much as you want. Regardless of the resale value with Topps/Fanatics you can't get the quantity even if you're lucky enough to get an in demand product.

What is sometimes getting chosen or sometimes getting an order in on topps.com of 3-5 boxes to make at best a few hundred dollars going to do for most people? It's virtually impossible on both systems now to get cases so you're looking at 3-5 boxes max.

With Topps/Fanatics there is also a huge problem currently buying in demand product cases on the secondary market if you want to go that route. For whatever reason most of the in demand Topps products have a pretty big case premium. Unfortunately, Topps seals these with regular tape that anyone could open and reseal with another product or dud boxes. You can buy from the obvious sellers that your risk is minimal but you will have to pay even more and have less chance of making anything worth mentioning.

If you don't want auctions it's because you're too cheap, too stupid, or won't take any risks. With Topps systems now how can anyone not in the 0.01% make any real money?

Are you dumb!?

[mossoholic]

Originally Posted by StlBen

Why do you say under the table sales? There is no secret illegal sales happening. Who hurt you?


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Lol secret illegal sales? This is all unregulated. Panini and Topps can do whatever they want.

Everyone that follows it knows what Topps is doing. Everyone that follows it knows what Panini is doing. In addition to hearing it not even bringing it up from several dealers online and in person there is a very obvious way you can find out Panini is not selling anywhere close to all FOTL. It's pointless though because what does that proof get you? There is nothing you can do about it. There are a few products I have proof but it won't get me anything. If they want to, they could make 5% of the product available during auction. There are certain people and only certain people that can contact their person at Panini and place an order before auctions.

I'm a small time seller and even I've been contacted many times to buy a product weeks or months after release from my Fanatics rep at an inflated cost. Unfortunately for me the price they offer me there is zero meat on the bone and it's usually higher than secondary market. But how do you think they have these for sale? Because Topps/Fanatics isn't selling them all at release. They are holding them back to create a false market and hope to sell later at a higher price.

Both entities are in their own way creating a false manipulated market. At least with Panini though you have a chance and can buy as many boxes and cases as you want from them if you're willing to pay enough. There are countless products you can't buy a single box or case directly from Topps/Fanatics around release regardless of what you're realistically willing to pay.

[mossoholic]

Originally Posted by ewokpelts

Are you dumb!?

Thanks for the fair critique. Yes, Im clearly dumb. I'd have been so much better off not buying during any auctions the last 6 years. I would clearly be better off taking buying advice from you. I would have been so much better off without auctions and hoping to get chosen for 3-5 box orders the last 6 years. I should have stayed at my old job I hated, made a fraction of what I've made during that timeframe, missed countless things I wanted to go to, worked more hours, etc. I don't know what I was thinking. You've help me see the light.

[ewokpelts]

Originally Posted by mossoholic

Thanks for the fair critique. Yes, Im clearly dumb. I'd have been so much better off not buying during any auctions the last 6 years. I would clearly be better off taking buying advice from you. I would have been so much better off without auctions and hoping to get chosen for 3-5 box orders the last 6 years. I should have stayed at my old job I hated, made a fraction of what I've made during that timeframe, missed countless things I wanted to go to, worked more hours, etc. I don't know what I was thinking. You've help me see the light.

Confirmed.

Thanks for Let me know to not give a #@#@#@#@ about what you say.