🏈🏈🏈2025 NFL WEEK 3 Discussion Thread🏈🏈🏈

[2010GBPackers]

Originally Posted by Floridacardguy

Why Jameis? You know who he is. A couple big plays, followed by a streak of bone headed plays. You drafted Dart to be the future. It's clear at 0&3 the G Men are not going anywhere this year. Throw Dart in, see what he can do. Let him get his growing pains out of the way during a season that is lost

Yeah, you're right. It worked well for D. Jones, so might as well hit "replay" on that strategy. Another team will probably end up reaping the rewards if the wreck Dart, too.

[Bosoxfan5990]

Originally Posted by Floridacardguy

You're funny as crap. Get a life

Crap can be funny if someone else steps in it.

[Derekbauer]

Originally Posted by 2010GBPackers

It should be Jameis. I like the idea of having a package of plays for Dart to get his toes wet, but it's not time yet. They actually have a pretty good roster that is quite young. I'd ride Winston for the rest of the year and slowly incorporate Dart more and more each week, then start him next year. They won't, though, and will probably ruin the kid.

This would be the best idea but they’re going to go with Dart to try and save their jobs. It may be their only chance at being a Head Coach/GM again. I think Winston would be better option this season to keep Nabers happy and Dart from getting killed.

After watching Daniel Jones the first three weeks it’s pretty obvious the coaching is clearly the issue with this team. Also, I’m not really surprised by his play but that’s a road we don’t need to go down anymore.

[Floridacardguy]

Originally Posted by Derekbauer

This would be the best idea but they’re going to go with Dart to try and save their jobs. It may be their only chance at being a Head Coach/GM again. I think Winston would be better option this season to keep Nabers happy and Dart from getting killed.

After watching Daniel Jones the first three weeks it’s pretty obvious the coaching is clearly the issue with this team. Also, I’m not really surprised by his play but that’s a road we don’t need to go down anymore.

The problem is, Jameis is NOT saving anyone's jobs.
We have seen the Jameis show at every turn, and the episodes always end the same way no matter what team he's on.

[JRX]

This is what people should have expected the Giants to be. They have a brutal schedule and are poorly coached. They only looked good last week because Dal has decided to not play def this year.

[EBCollectibles]

Originally Posted by spuds1961

Well 1-7 or 0-8 is the Giants destiny Daboll needs to go.

How has he kept his job this long?

[Derekbauer]

Originally Posted by Floridacardguy

The problem is, Jameis is NOT saving anyone's jobs.
We have seen the Jameis show at every turn, and the episodes always end the same way no matter what team he's on.

You’re missing the point.

The best long term solution for the team is to let Dart sit and not be ruined by bad coaching and poor offensive line play.

Winston, in theory, would be more beneficial to keeping your offensive players from becoming disengaged. Mainly Nabers who appeared to be checked out by halftime and gave almost no effort for most of the second half.

[EBCollectibles]

Originally Posted by Derekbauer

You’re missing the point.

The best long term solution for the team is to let Dart sit and not be ruined by bad coaching and poor offensive line play.

Winston, in theory, would be more beneficial to keeping your offensive players from becoming disengaged. Mainly Nabers who appeared to be checked out by halftime and gave almost no effort for most of the second half.

Jameis might not save a job but I promise you he will make the game worth watching. Like Rex Ryan said two weeks ago he should have been gone 2 years ago. He makes the whole team stagnant.

[JRX]

Originally Posted by EBCollectibles

How has he kept his job this long?

The owner is unwilling to admit he can't identify talent.

[mjekase]

Originally Posted by Derekbauer

You’re missing the point.

The best long term solution for the team is to let Dart sit and not be ruined by bad coaching and poor offensive line play.

Winston, in theory, would be more beneficial to keeping your offensive players from becoming disengaged. Mainly Nabers who appeared to be checked out by halftime and gave almost no effort for most of the second half.

I was on the side of putting Dart in, but these are good points. Especially after watching that line as the game went along - Thomas being pulled for some reason? - and the Nabers thing. Skattebo seems like the only guy on that offense that would be of help to Dart, and that's a lot to put on two rookies.

[JRX]

Originally Posted by mjekase

I was on the side of putting Dart in, but these are good points. Especially after watching that line as the game went along - Thomas being pulled for some reason? - and the Nabers thing. Skattebo seems like the only guy on that offense that would be of help to Dart, and that's a lot to put on two rookies.

If Dart is going to start this year it shouldn't be until the end of the season. Sure you can play him at NO, but then he has phi 2x and den oh and then niners packers bears and lions with chi being on the road. Its week 14 at NE or its after the bye for WAS, MIN, LV, and DAL with 3 of 4 at home.

[ThatGuyPal]

Wilson stinks

[asujbl]

Is Travis Hunter in the NFL? Did he go back to College and we missed that?

[Derekbauer]

Originally Posted by mjekase

I was on the side of putting Dart in, but these are good points. Especially after watching that line as the game went along - Thomas being pulled for some reason? - and the Nabers thing. Skattebo seems like the only guy on that offense that would be of help to Dart, and that's a lot to put on two rookies.

Originally Posted by JRX

If Dart is going to start this year it shouldn't be until the end of the season. Sure you can play him at NO, but then he has phi 2x and den oh and then niners packers bears and lions with chi being on the road. Its week 14 at NE or its after the bye for WAS, MIN, LV, and DAL with 3 of 4 at home.

Unfortunately I don’t see them holding him out much longer at this point even though they should. What worries me is that if he doesn’t play well and it’s not really his fault the new regime will come in and pick another QB next season.

[majestik101]

Originally Posted by 2010GBPackers

It should be Jameis. I like the idea of having a package of plays for Dart to get his toes wet, but it's not time yet. They actually have a pretty good roster that is quite young. I'd ride Winston for the rest of the year

Agreed. I've got cards to sell.

[JRX]

Originally Posted by Derekbauer

Unfortunately I don’t see them holding him out much longer at this point even though they should. What worries me is that if he doesn’t play well and it’s not really his fault the new regime will come in and pick another QB next season.

The media/fan pressure plus them trying to save their jobs will force the change and then they'll still end up with top 5 pick.

[Derekbauer]

Originally Posted by JRX

The media/fan pressure plus them trying to save their jobs will force the change and then they'll still end up with top 5 pick.

Yeah that’s exactly where we’re heading again.

[49erRCCollector]

Giants should at least put him in a handful of plays during a game. Pre-designed, repped in practice. Russ ain't the future, Jameis isn't either so get Dart some live NFL game experience here so that he hits the ground running in 2026.

[JRX]

Originally Posted by 49erRCCollector

Giants should at least put him in a handful of plays during a game. Pre-designed, repped in practice. Russ ain't the future, Jameis isn't either so get Dart some live NFL game experience here so that he hits the ground running in 2026.

I can't think of a time when playing 2 qbs ever worked.

[Derekbauer]

Originally Posted by 49erRCCollector

Giants should at least put him in a handful of plays during a game. Pre-designed, repped in practice. Russ ain't the future, Jameis isn't either so get Dart some live NFL game experience here so that he hits the ground running in 2026.

The biggest issue lies in the search for coach/GM. Will there be a stipulation that Dart has to be their guy or will they have free choice of next years draft class?

Pretty much like a Josh Rosen situation.

[JRX]

Originally Posted by Derekbauer

The biggest issue lies in the search for coach/GM. Will there be a stipulation that Dart has to be their guy or will they have free choice of next years draft class?

Pretty much like a Josh Rosen situation.

This is the cycle ever bad franchise finds themselves in they never time, gm/coach/qb so they always get stuck with firing a gm/coach but then not letting the next gm pick their coach or the next coach pick their qb etc.

[Derekbauer]

Originally Posted by JRX

This is the cycle ever bad franchise finds themselves in they never time, gm/coach/qb so they always get stuck with firing a gm/coach but then not letting the next gm pick their coach or the next coach pick their qb etc.

Exactly. It’s a viscous cycle.

[mjekase]

Originally Posted by JRX

I can't think of a time when playing 2 qbs ever worked.

I don't think it's playing 2 QBs as much as giving Dart a series here and there through the next month and a half to build him up a little, then hand it over to him in week 13 for the rest of the year. Not sure what a single play of him handing off is doing at this point. Maybe do it during road games so you don't have to worry about the fan reactions in real time.

[JRX]

Its why giants should have cleaned house brought in new gm let him hire coach let coach draft the qb.

[Grid]

Originally Posted by JRX

I can't think of a time when playing 2 qbs ever worked.