✹The PERENNIAL Shohei Ohtani Thread✹

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by BoSoxFan1999

Just randomly finding a box of Ohtani rookies....wish I had that problem!!

you had to be there. in 2018 it wasnt all that strange to rip a $50 hobby box of 2018 update and put them in a box

[NYBBFAN]

Awesome find Scooter. Can’t believe you had an auto laying around.

[ScooterD]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

looks like a great submission!

Nah - I’m out of grading altogether. Spent $1,100 on my last submission, and they had 6/9 labels wrong.

Just misidentified cards… sent in Desert Shield and slabbed as regular. Sent in a 1991 Leaf Gold Rookies numbered variation and slabbed as regular. Sent in a 1993 Leaf Frank Thomas promo and slabbed as regular. Sent in a 3 1990 Topps Golden Spikes Alex Fernandez and each was slabbed as Topps debut.

They are all PC, so I don’t care about the grades - just not going to pay $ for the “experts” to continually misidentify my cards.

[BoSoxFan1999]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

$50 hobby box

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by ScooterD

Nah - I’m out of grading altogether. Spent $1,100 on my last submission, and they had 6/9 labels wrong.

Just misidentified cards… sent in Desert Shield and slabbed as regular. Sent in a 1991 Leaf Gold Rookies numbered variation and slabbed as regular. Sent in a 1993 Leaf Frank Thomas promo and slabbed as regular. Sent in a 3 1990 Topps Golden Spikes Alex Fernandez and each was slabbed as Topps debut.

They are all PC, so I don’t care about the grades - just not going to pay $ for the “experts” to continually misidentify my cards.

that cool as long as you dont intend on selling them!

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by BoSoxFan1999

hahaha there was more stock available than people could buy

[ScooterD]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

that cool as long as you dont intend on selling them!

And I don’t, which is why I haven’t mentioned it until today. They are encapsulated (protected) and mine forever, but I DO expect more from the experts, and I’m not putting these in the mail again.

[seanrs1]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

you had to be there. in 2018 it wasnt all that strange to rip a $50 hobby box of 2018 update and put them in a box

Ahhh the good ole days (in which I missed completely). This is also not surprising as according to the BO survey half of the members on here are millionaires or multi millionaires.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by ScooterD

And I don’t, which is why I haven’t mentioned it until today. They are encapsulated (protected) and mine forever, but I DO expect more from the experts, and I’m not putting these in the mail again.

yea, i dont trust the mail system either.

as for the "experts", they are just another TPG service. i dont worry about it too much, but then again i am not all that worried about "Gem Mint" status (not saying you are, just saying)

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by seanrs1

Ahhh the good ole days (in which I missed completely). This is also not surprising as according to the BO survey half of the members on here are millionaires or multi millionaires.

fun times indeed!

the biggest complaint during the 2018 Black Friday Sales was that the Silver Packs were not included with the $50 Update Boxes (Silver Packs back then were not inserted in the boxes)

[ScooterD]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

fun times indeed!

the biggest complaint during the 2018 Black Friday Sales was that the Silver Packs were not included with the $50 Update Boxes (Silver Packs back then were not inserted in the boxes)

Was that the time when that dude lost his mind and got banned? Epic thread for anyone who hasn’t perused it before

[BoSoxFan1999]

Originally Posted by ScooterD

Was that the time when that dude lost his mind and got banned? Epic thread for anyone who hasn’t perused it before

I need someone to link that thread.

[ScooterD]

Originally Posted by BoSoxFan1999

Just randomly finding a box of Ohtani rookies....wish I had that problem!!

I think what happened here is that I did my yearly sorting (hot, not, etc) during his first TJ “break.” Apparently, I kept them together, but didn’t see them as hot.

[Rs17]

I’ve seen a few comments in the thread suggesting 2024 autos will command more money than others (excluding 2018) as it was Ohtani’s first year as a Dodger, 50/50 season, and the team won the World Series.

While I don’t know LeBron cards, I remember reading that his first year Lakers cards sold for a premium initially, but eventually returned to relative value of like cards of non-rookie years.

Curious what the consensus is on 2024 autos. Will they maintain a premium, or be valued as highly as 2025, 2026 autos eventually will be? My hope is they will maintain a premium as a I pulled a nice /5 that I plan on holding indefinitely!

[imbluestreak23]

Scoring some tix to see Shohei on the mound next Tuesday right behind the diamond baby! Can't wait to see him pitch!

[NYRE2PECT]

Originally Posted by ScooterD

This is probably a sign from above that I need to do some sorting and organizing - I found these in an unmarked (unknown) box this morning. All 3 of the Topps Chromes are refractors. No idea I had any of them (thought I sold the auto)




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Not all boxes are created equal...!

[Trueblue]

Originally Posted by Rs17

I’ve seen a few comments in the thread suggesting 2024 autos will command more money than others (excluding 2018) as it was Ohtani’s first year as a Dodger, 50/50 season, and the team won the World Series.

While I don’t know LeBron cards, I remember reading that his first year Lakers cards sold for a premium initially, but eventually returned to relative value of like cards of non-rookie years.

Curious what the consensus is on 2024 autos. Will they maintain a premium, or be valued as highly as 2025, 2026 autos eventually will be? My hope is they will maintain a premium as a I pulled a nice /5 that I plan on holding indefinitely!

People don't want to admit it but the same thing will happen with Sho over time. Maybe not until the next decade, but 10 years of dodger autos are going to allow people to have a A LOT of options where it's non sensical to pay significantly more for 2024.

[Mister2Bits]

Originally Posted by ScooterD

Nah - I’m out of grading altogether. Spent $1,100 on my last submission, and they had 6/9 labels wrong.

Just misidentified cards… sent in Desert Shield and slabbed as regular. Sent in a 1991 Leaf Gold Rookies numbered variation and slabbed as regular. Sent in a 1993 Leaf Frank Thomas promo and slabbed as regular. Sent in a 3 1990 Topps Golden Spikes Alex Fernandez and each was slabbed as Topps debut.

They are all PC, so I don’t care about the grades - just not going to pay $ for the “experts” to continually misidentify my cards.

I went back and forth on a ginter mini /25 that PSA refused to label correctly. I sent them photo's of a dozen other cards from the same set. 8 emails back and forth. They refused to concede they were incorrect and now I have a mini /25 with the wrong label.

They did tell me I could send it back in to review it again

Wild.

[hammertime]

Originally Posted by Mister2Bits

I went back and forth on a ginter mini /25 that PSA refused to label correctly. I sent them photo's of a dozen other cards from the same set. 8 emails back and forth. They refused to concede they were incorrect and now I have a mini /25 with the wrong label.

They did tell me I could send it back in to review it again

Wild.

Yeah their customer service has really nosedived lately. They screwed up a recent vintage submission I had so I called before they shipped it back to me so they could fix it and they basically said there was nothing they could do, I'd have to resubmit it after I got it back.

[seanrs1]

Originally Posted by Trueblue

People don't want to admit it but the same thing will happen with Sho over time. Maybe not until the next decade, but 10 years of dodger autos are going to allow people to have a A LOT of options where it's non sensical to pay significantly more for 2024.

This makes the most logical sense!

Do you think Ohtani autos from 2019 to 2021 with his older style signature will command a premium in the market place compared to his new signature now and in the future?

[BoSoxFan1999]

Originally Posted by Rs17

I’ve seen a few comments in the thread suggesting 2024 autos will command more money than others (excluding 2018) as it was Ohtani’s first year as a Dodger, 50/50 season, and the team won the World Series.

While I don’t know LeBron cards, I remember reading that his first year Lakers cards sold for a premium initially, but eventually returned to relative value of like cards of non-rookie years.

Curious what the consensus is on 2024 autos. Will they maintain a premium, or be valued as highly as 2025, 2026 autos eventually will be? My hope is they will maintain a premium as a I pulled a nice /5 that I plan on holding indefinitely!

I've been juggling a very similar question in my head (except it's rookie autos vs 2024 50/50 set relic autos) ever since I got my 50/50 set orange relic auto redemption.

One one hand, the card I have checks all the boxes you could want for an Ohtani 2024 card (Dodgers "rookie" year, dirty patch from his 50/50 game pants, on-card auto, also from the year the Dodgers won the WS, he won MVP, established the 50/50 club, not to mention the game he achieved 50/50 might also be one of the greatest single-game performances in MLB history!). And at least for right now, there are only 93 cards in existence that he's autographed that have a patch from his 50/50 game.

On the other hand, rookie cards are rookie cards, and being able to pick up on-card autos (with OG sig) from his rookie year will never be a bad decision as just about everyone covets Sho rookie autos.

In a perfect world I'd just keep my 50/50 card and go pick up some rookie autos to add to my collection and have the best of both worlds, but money doesn't grow on trees.

So then the question is what will be the better long-term hold, flagship rookie auto(s) or his 50/50 game relic autos? My brain tells me rookie autos are the way to go, but then again it's very possible he will be the only player in the history of the game to ever go 50/50 and to give up a card that commemorates that achievement with a patch from his game pants to boot....

[Trueblue]

Originally Posted by seanrs1

This makes the most logical sense!



Do you think Ohtani autos from 2019 to 2021 with his older style signature will command a premium in the market place compared to his new signature now and in the future?

For sure on 2019, but al l I can say is maybe for 2020-21. It's definitely a step above 2022-2024 C-8 in an Angels uniform.

50/50 is cool, but you need to realize Topps is going to milk Ohtani with special sets every time he hits another milestone. In the end, it's special, but I question whether it gets a little blurred with the other dozen+ pop up sets over the next decade.

[BoSoxFan1999]

Originally Posted by Trueblue

50/50 is cool, but you need to realize Topps is going to milk Ohtani with special sets every time he hits another milestone. In the end, it's special, but I question whether it gets a little blurred with the other dozen+ pop up sets over the next decade.

I was thinking maybe I try and hedge and "downgrade" my card to a gold auto relic, then use whatever's leftover to pick up a slightly lower tier rookie auto (18 TC instead of BC for example), but then I see a raw gold 50/50 RPA go for over $36k on Goldin. Lol

Huh, I see basically my twin card (orange /25 relic auto) was just posted on Goldin for auction. Only diff is it's raw vs my BGS 8.5/10. Interested to see what this ends up selling for compared to the raw gold /50 as he inscribed his jersey # on the gold.

[Rs17]

All good points regarding his later and future autos. I’ve thought about putting my 2024 auto toward a rookie auto or a BC Chrome / that I don’t have, but I’m personally attached to the card as I pulled it myself!

[seanrs1]

I have been trying to rationalize paying more and more for Ohtani cards (its not an affordability issue) it is a value issue. I bought a lot of Ohtani cards in 2021 after his break out and his current card prices are even higher now. Obviously I believe Ohtani RC values are going to increase in value over time (especially RC autos and high end cards).

So I was wondering if I could compare Ohtani RC cards to Michael Jordan 86-87 Fleer RC cards. My Dad bought me a Jordan RC card I think in 1992 or 1993 for like $325 (during covid I graded it an it was a PSA8). It is one of the few junk wax era cards that has sky rocketed in value. Obviously if I had a time machine I would have wanted to go back and buy every Jordan RC (and Mantle for that matter).

Anyone care to guess where Ohtani cards will end up after he retires? Should everyone on here be buying as many high end Ohtani RC cards as possible?

I am just trying to justify spending more and more on Ohtani RC cards.