Official Tom Brady RC Price Tracker

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by TeeBee12

You would be very surprised how high-end cards are now seen as solid investments similar to artwork, horses by serious finance managers. Extremely easy to own, move around and liquidating is usually much quicker and reliable to property, art, cars, etc. and all that stuff requires monthly insurance and upkeep. And of all the categories that auction houses deal in, only sport card consignments actually pay you an EXTRA 8-10% of the buyers premium as opposed to being charged. That’s a huge swing. Plus it’s apparently cool these days.

Sounds like a comment from 2020

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by Tea10

Yeah I don't see that as sustainable. I see that as bubble-mode stuff. If we could take the Delorean 20-30 years into the future I can't imagine 2012-2014 higher end parallels of Prizm being worth that much relative to what it's doing now.

A Michael Penix Jr 1/1 PSA 8 "Vertical Kaboom!" sold for 28k on Fanatics auction too. Jay Cutler at least was semi-famous and had some good years, Penix hasn't done anything. Prospecting. But odds are Cutler is better than Penix, both being non-desirable overall.

It's just so frothy and when we're talking con-man auction houses like Goldin/Heritage/Fanatics, etc, a lot of those sales aren't even real. They're fake. So it's so hard to say. Your infographic is shocking though, is that an ebay sale or the same Goldin house? 6.5, sure, but we're really going to pay more for a 2013 Gold Prizm out of 3000-5000+ total copies with parallel versions than a Champ ticket rookie? Comical to me.

Sounds like you are talking about an 90s PMGs here. Except those have 10s of thousands of the base versions.

Look at it like this: There are two real chases of the Panini era, which is coming to an end now:

-Prizm Golds
-Kabooms (for now anyways)

Prizm Golds are the OGs. They have uniformity across all 4 sports (Produced every year from 2012-2024). There are just 10 copies.

When you look across all years:

-110 Brady Prizm Golds (less than the amount of Marino/Sanders/etc 1997 PMG Reds)
-70 Mahomes Prizm Golds (Less than the amount of MJ/Kobe/etc PMG Reds)
-Even less of newer guys, who may or may not workout.

And for each of these guys their first Prizm Gold, be it rookie year or 2012, is their PMG Green.

And no PMG Championships or 1998 PMGs to water down the run (unless that's what you consider the Kabooms.)

Add this to the fact that Tom Brady is THE guy to collect in football in a way we've never seen before, and you have a recipe where supply will never meet demand. And if you don't want to take my word or it, fine. I've been consistent in my thesis of Prizm Golds since 2020 when I picked up the following for just under $10k, and people told me I was wrong because they 'weren't rookie cards':

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by TeeBee12

You would be very surprised how high-end cards are now seen as solid investments similar to artwork, horses by serious finance managers. Extremely easy to own, move around and liquidating is usually much quicker and reliable to property, art, cars, etc. and all that stuff requires monthly insurance and upkeep. And of all the categories that auction houses deal in, only sport card consignments actually pay you an EXTRA 8-10% of the buyers premium as opposed to being charged. That’s a huge swing. Plus it’s apparently cool these days.

Originally Posted by tjforce

Sounds like you are talking about an 90s PMGs here. Except those have 10s of thousands of the base versions.

Look at it like this: There are two real chases of the Panini era, which is coming to an end now:

-Prizm Golds
-Kabooms (for now anyways)

Prizm Golds are the OGs. They have uniformity across all 4 sports (Produced every year from 2012-2024). There are just 10 copies.

When you look across all years:

-110 Brady Prizm Golds (less than the amount of Marino/Sanders/etc 1997 PMG Reds)
-70 Mahomes Prizm Golds (Less than the amount of MJ/Kobe/etc PMG Reds)
-Even less of newer guys, who may or may not workout.

And for each of these guys their first Prizm Gold, be it rookie year or 2012, is their PMG Green.

And no PMG Championships or 1998 PMGs to water down the run (unless that's what you consider the Kabooms.)

Add this to the fact that Tom Brady is THE guy to collect in football in a way we've never seen before, and you have a recipe where supply will never meet demand. And if you don't want to take my word or it, fine. I've been consistent in my thesis of Prizm Golds since 2020 when I picked up the following for just under $10k, and people told me I was wrong because they 'weren't rookie cards':

Well to be fair look how the rookie cards would have done, especially buying them at that time. His rookies didn’t explode until after #7….2021

[jasonm2121]

Key Golds for Brady will be like key rarities for Jordan and other stars from basketball and baseball in the 90s. Brady has very few high end cards like them in his playing career, and the same goes for his rarer on card autos and on card auto patch/jersey cards. The supply is very low and the demand will likely increase over time. Same is likely with his nice rookie cards with low gem population and print runs (like his Bowman Gold and Leaf Certified Gold).

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by jasonm2121

Key Golds for Brady will be like key rarities for Jordan and other stars from basketball and baseball in the 90s. Brady has very few high end cards like them in his playing career, and the same goes for his rarer on card autos and on card auto patch/jersey cards. The supply is very low and the demand will likely increase over time. Same is likely with his nice rookie cards with low gem population and print runs (like his Bowman Gold and Leaf Certified Gold).

For extreme rookies like that lol the prices are already insane. Compared to Bowman/certified /1500, as the others barely even come up for auction

[daveyc1]

are Mahomes Prizm Golds worth as much as Bradys? Or more?

[jasonm2121]

Originally Posted by 6GOAT789

For extreme rookies like that lol the prices are already insane. Compared to Bowman/certified /1500, as the others barely even come up for auction

What?

[6GOAT789]

Originally Posted by jasonm2121

What?

Bowman gold/gold certified are already insanely priced, since they barely even come up for auction. Compared to the base bowman/ certified blue /1500

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by daveyc1

are Mahomes Prizm Golds worth as much as Bradys? Or more?

Depends on which ones you are talking about.

He had some more recent (2022 and 2024) PSA 9s sell for around $14 or 15k recently.

His 2018 Gold is a $30k+ card at this point. Would do very well after the 2013 set the market for 'second year' Prizm Golds.

So I guess to answer your questions: An 2018 or 2019 Mahomes Prizm Gold would probably do better than later year Bradys. But nothing early Mahomes aren't in the same class as early Bradys yet, unless you are talking the 2017 Mahomes.... but that's a different beast. It's the best Prizm Gold rookie card ever made.

[daveyc1]

Originally Posted by tjforce

Depends on which ones you are talking about.

He had some more recent (2022 and 2024) PSA 9s sell for around $14 or 15k recently.

His 2018 Gold is a $30k+ card at this point. Would do very well after the 2013 set the market for 'second year' Prizm Golds.

So I guess to answer your questions: An 2018 or 2019 Mahomes Prizm Gold would probably do better than later year Bradys. But nothing early Mahomes aren't in the same class as early Bradys yet, unless you are talking the 2017 Mahomes.... but that's a different beast. It's the best Prizm Gold rookie card ever made.

that is interesting. thank you for the reply. So if I understand correctly, the later the year of Prizm golds gets, the less valuable? even though they are numbered exactly the same? If true, that somewhat perplexes me when it comes to Brady golds. They are nowhere near his rookie year, so I wonder what makes a 2014 gold more valuable than a 2022? I can understand the 2017 Mahomes as that is rookie year.

Does that mean the 2017 Mahomes (rookie year) is the most valuable Prizm gold football card ever made? or is the 2012 Brady gold more desirable?

sorry for all the questions. I have lots of newer bradys, but they are just cards i have acquired in large lots. nothing I have actively sought out. My ¨specialty¨ is more rookie year and very early career cards. The Bradys released in the last 20 years or so are all a bit of a mystery to me. I do think those prizm golds are very attractive cards though!

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by daveyc1

that is interesting. thank you for the reply. So if I understand correctly, the later the year of Prizm golds gets, the less valuable? even though they are numbered exactly the same? If true, that somewhat perplexes me when it comes to Brady golds. They are nowhere near his rookie year, so I wonder what makes a 2014 gold more valuable than a 2022? I can understand the 2017 Mahomes as that is rookie year.

Does that mean the 2017 Mahomes (rookie year) is the most valuable Prizm gold football card ever made? or is the 2012 Brady gold more desirable?

sorry for all the questions. I have lots of newer bradys, but they are just cards i have acquired in large lots. nothing I have actively sought out. My ¨specialty¨ is more rookie year and very early career cards. The Bradys released in the last 20 years or so are all a bit of a mystery to me. I do think those prizm golds are very attractive cards though!

Yeah, the market is figuring this out as we speak. A couple things:

-In regards to Brady and Mahomes: The 2012 Prizm Brady and the 2017 Prizm Mahomes are on the Mount Rushmore of Prizm Golds, along side the 2012 LeBron and your pick on 2012 Kobe, Curry, or 2018 Luka.

-Which one is more valuable right now? Really hard to say and would depend on who gets in a bidding war IMO.

-Part of what makes sense about 2018 and 2019 Mahomes being more valuable is that its very early career and if you can't dish out the quarter million dollars to nab a 2017 Mahomes, you settle for a 2018 at 1/10 the price.


As for the Brady:
-Same logic goes for his 2013 vs 2012.

-Early year Prizm (2012, 2013, 2014) are now getting the nostalgia treatment. The designs have been featured in Deca and Throwback sets.

-Stuff just grows over time. For a long time it's been a case where Golds come out and go up over time as they get absorbed into collections. As the new Golds age, they are likely to gain ground price wise.

[daveyc1]

I just listened to an interview with the collector who ¨bought¨ the 1/1 2012 prizm finite brady and ended up getting scammed out of $478k. I definitely feel for the guy, and it is a cautionary tale. I hope he is able to recoup his money eventually

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by daveyc1

I just listened to an interview with the collector who ¨bought¨ the 1/1 2012 prizm finite brady and ended up getting scammed out of $478k. I definitely feel for the guy, and it is a cautionary tale. I hope he is able to recoup his money eventually

Yeah, I know the guy. Have done deals in the past. Really great guy.

I feel like he should have known that if someone had a raw copy of that card, and only was asking $600k for it, that something was wrong.

[daveyc1]

Originally Posted by tjforce

Yeah, I know the guy. Have done deals in the past. Really great guy.

I feel like he should have known that if someone had a raw copy of that card, and only was asking $600k for it, that something was wrong.

he seemed like a good guy in the interview. we all have made mistakes in negotiations, he just happened to make a mistake that involved a lot of money. It was a good interview and I definitely feel bad for the guy. They also mentioned the ¨alleged¨ purp is still active and welcome on different platforms? I do not know him or where he roams, but that is a bad look for whatever platforms he uses and the hobby in general.

I wonder what he does for a living where he has that much disposable income?

[TeeBee12]

Originally Posted by tjforce

Sounds like you are talking about an 90s PMGs here. Except those have 10s of thousands of the base versions.

Look at it like this: There are two real chases of the Panini era, which is coming to an end now:

-Prizm Golds
-Kabooms (for now anyways)

Prizm Golds are the OGs. They have uniformity across all 4 sports (Produced every year from 2012-2024). There are just 10 copies.

When you look across all years:

-110 Brady Prizm Golds (less than the amount of Marino/Sanders/etc 1997 PMG Reds)
-70 Mahomes Prizm Golds (Less than the amount of MJ/Kobe/etc PMG Reds)
-Even less of newer guys, who may or may not workout.

And for each of these guys their first Prizm Gold, be it rookie year or 2012, is their PMG Green.

And no PMG Championships or 1998 PMGs to water down the run (unless that's what you consider the Kabooms.)

Add this to the fact that Tom Brady is THE guy to collect in football in a way we've never seen before, and you have a recipe where supply will never meet demand. And if you don't want to take my word or it, fine. I've been consistent in my thesis of Prizm Golds since 2020 when I picked up the following for just under $10k, and people told me I was wrong because they 'weren't rookie cards':

100%. I think most of the Brady rookie collectors keep applying & comparing the fad/hype/prices of these kaboom/downtown inserts to prizm golds and other key blue chips. And that’s a huge mistake, imo.

And speaking of the limited quantity of prizm golds & “blue” chips out there, most haven’t realized that Brady blue Prizms, while not numbered, are in limited supply as well. Limited supply in ‘13. Limited supply in ‘14. And then perhaps only 20 - 30 throughout ‘19 as color matches.

The upside with these based on what?, maybe 600 total Blue Prizms, coupled with the overall rising popularity of color matches mixed with the rising prices on the golds make these much more advantageous in terms of potential while also actually being aesthetically appealing vs settling for a, let’s say, horizontal emerald metal rookie. Certainly not dogging on anyone who purchased a metal, I have one myself, but you can get several copies of that card every week. Key blues, ‘15 - ‘19, you maybe see 15 - 20 a year. And with each record breaking gold sale, is only gonna drag these up substantially once the rest of the herd picks up on the nuance. Fyi: Pinks are fairly rare too, but a few more hurdles to jump. Kelce pinks for Swifties, might not be a bad play though. ��

[6GOAT789]

Are all sales sort of “skewed” since we don’t know the bidders/buyers? As far as something selling really high applying to only few people. Compared to more “normal” cards that sell regularly.

Since some, again few, have a ton of money they’re willing to spend

At this point, almost need a whole separate Brady prizm non rookie thread

[daveyc1]

I dont mind talking about the gold prizms here. I probably would not have opened a seperate thread about them, and I am learning about them.

[Brazenways]

Another Brady gold hit the block on fanatics:

2014 Panini Prizm Gold Tom Brady /10 #36 BGS 9.5 GEM MINT

How many more does this collector have left to dump?

[daveyc1]

Interesting. do we know they are from same collector?

I wonder if the 2014 will sell for less than the 2013 that just sold.

it may be helpful in setting a market, to have 2 sell in a short period of time. It may indicate how many buyers there are. I would imagine if there were just 2 or 3 buyers, it would go for less as a lot of the bidding pool would be out on this one. if it sells for a price similar or more, that would indicate to me there are many prospective buyers.

of course my little scenario goes right out the window if shill bidding is going on...

i am interested to see the outcome!

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by daveyc1

Interesting. do we know they are from same collector?

I wonder if the 2014 will sell for less than the 2013 that just sold.

it may be helpful in setting a market, to have 2 sell in a short period of time. It may indicate how many buyers there are. I would imagine if there were just 2 or 3 buyers, it would go for less as a lot of the bidding pool would be out on this one. if it sells for a price similar or more, that would indicate to me there are many prospective buyers.

of course my little scenario goes right out the window if shill bidding is going on...

i am interested to see the outcome!

We won't be seeing $160k out of the 2013: A year later, BGS 9.5 rather than PSA 10.

But it is off to a strong start at $30k.

[2010GBPackers]

Instinct says the 2014 Prizm Brady gold BGS 9.5 will do well, but not as well as the 2013 gold that just sold. This is mainly due to the fact that most true PC guys view the 2013 Prizm gold as the most attractive gold parallel of Prizm run (2013 Select gold is viewed strongly as well).

HOWEVER, only (5) 2014 golds have been graded by PSA and Beckett combined; 2013 has (8) graded copies between the two companies. Add to that fact that perhaps one was a crossover, and the known graded copy population could be five or less. I think it goes for less than the 2013 gold, but it may be closer than I suspect.

[daveyc1]

I just saw a link on one of the brady fb pages that Sheps cards posted yesterday the story of the 2013 psa 10 gold prizm that just sold.

apparently a guy came into the store with the brady that he had found in his collection from years ago and wanted some advice about it. Sheps helped him grade it and it came back a 10 back in May.

sounds to me like this copy was stuck in a collection for years (perhaps forgotten about by the owner) and has just recently entered the hobby. cool story. I bet there are stories just like that for a host of other rare cards. guys name is mike and he has ordered a new truck with part of the proceeds.

[Derekbauer]

Originally Posted by daveyc1

I just saw a link on one of the brady fb pages that Sheps cards posted yesterday the story of the 2013 psa 10 gold prizm that just sold.

apparently a guy came into the store with the brady that he had found in his collection from years ago and wanted some advice about it. Sheps helped him grade it and it came back a 10 back in May.

sounds to me like this copy was stuck in a collection for years (perhaps forgotten about by the owner) and has just recently entered the hobby. cool story. I bet there are stories just like that for a host of other rare cards. guys name is mike and he has ordered a new truck with part of the proceeds.

As someone who has followed the 2012 gold set very closely my guess is about 1-3 copies of each player are probably “lost” right now. They are either buried in a forgotten collection or were completely discarded a decade ago. Some are also still in packs of course.

It makes the actual chance of acquiring one even harder. In the past two years there has been very few chances of picking up any of the big names in the set (Brady, Manning, Brees, Rodgers, Big Ben, Eli, Charles Woodson, Polamalu, Gronk, Moss, Fitz, Megatron, etc)

That’s why the 2013s are going bonkers. The chance at a 2012 is slim to none.

[6GOAT789]

Crazy that these cards can be made way later when he already accomplished a ton (HOF) and go for so much. Just because they’re shiny and often low serial numbered

If there was a 2025 prizm (is there? Lol) of Brady, Gold /10, it would sell for a ton. Along with the other /‘s

[hatchd]

The fact that people can look at what top of the line 90s cards have done and still can’t understand the appeal of Gold Prizms is befuddling to me.


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