2024 GPK Battle of the Bands - Green Day

[LondonGames]

Originally Posted by dd316

MLB has a built-in trading card audience, Green Day does not. Unless Green Day themselves are promoting the product, I imagine many of their fans will never know a trading card set exists.

I do agree these autographs will be VERY valuable.

This argument makes literally zero sense. How many of the countless non-sport releases that were a success, had a built-in trading card audience? Can't understand someone that's actually a Non-Sport fan saying something so silly. MLB GPK is extremely niche and having a built-in trading card "audience" has nothing to do with that. Neither does whether or not any of Green Days fans knowing it exists. That only changes whether or not it can be as big of a hit, but it doesn't change what the product is.

Not that it matters, but unlike mostly all other random non-sport products Green Day did actually promote it via an IG post to 7 million followers.

[LondonGames]

Originally Posted by hotcalsun

How much does the Green Day release benefit from the built-in GPK collectors, if at all? I primary collect baseball but saw this release and was very excited for it but know very little about the community.

Probably pretty heavily. GPK is pretty strong and theres a big crossover. It's really well designed. Green Day definitely fits the GPK vibe well.

But the other way around GPK benefits Green Day in that it portrays the band in a really fun collectible way. Regular Green Day action photos would've been kinda boring. I'm a big Green Day fan but also a bigger card fan. It's legitimately one of the coolest looking products I've seen in a long time. So long as the mock-up photos are accurate, and the signature cards look as they do (the triple and the 1/1 patches), it's sick.

I hope Topps continues this trend. No reason to believe they won't.

[hotcalsun]

Originally Posted by LondonGames

Probably pretty heavily. GPK is pretty strong and theres a big crossover. It's really well designed. Green Day definitely fits the GPK vibe well.

But the other way around GPK benefits Green Day in that it portrays the band in a really fun collectible way. Regular Green Day action photos would've been kinda boring. I'm a big Green Day fan but also a bigger card fan. It's legitimately one of the coolest looking products I've seen in a long time. So long as the mock-up photos are accurate, and the signature cards look as they do (the triple and the 1/1 patches), it's sick.

I hope Topps continues this trend. No reason to believe they won't.

Appreciate the perspective, thank you.

[StlBen]

Originally Posted by dd316

MLB has a built-in trading card audience, Green Day does not. Unless Green Day themselves are promoting the product, I imagine many of their fans will never know a trading card set exists.

I do agree these autographs will be VERY valuable.

Green Day are promoting it both on socials and they sent it out to everyone on their email list.

[tevans333]

What was the pre order price for 40th? Curious how it compares to this.

[hotcalsun]

Originally Posted by tevans333

What was the pre order price for 40th? Curious how it compares to this.

Launch day sale was $79.99, but it was a different configuration with 8 packs rather than 10 in Green Day.

https://gpknews.com/topps-offering-l...h-anniversary/

[dd316]

Originally Posted by LondonGames

This argument makes literally zero sense. How many of the countless non-sport releases that were a success, had a built-in trading card audience? Can't understand someone that's actually a Non-Sport fan saying something so silly. MLB GPK is extremely niche and having a built-in trading card "audience" has nothing to do with that. Neither does whether or not any of Green Days fans knowing it exists. That only changes whether or not it can be as big of a hit, but it doesn't change what the product is.

You're kidding, right? MLB and trading cards go hand-in-hand, been that way for 100 years. What's the Green Day / trading card connection prior to this set?

Having a built-in trading card audience has nothing to do with it? MLB player collectors chased the GPK cards. GPK collectors chased the MLB cards.

Now, Green Day is promoting the cards, which is great and should bring a lot of outside interest. But before this I wouldn't have put Green Day and GPK together, would you?

[PumpnDumpling]

Originally Posted by dd316

Maybe in worldwide appeal. I definitely see WAY more people sporting MLB gear than Green Day.

By that barometer i see more people sporting Michael Myers likeness be it on their arm, shirt or vehicle than any easily recognizable MLB reference

Is dime store William Shatner mask more popular than Major League Baseball?

[PumpnDumpling]

Also does anyone know when BO "sold out" of boxes and cases?

When/where do you think we see the reload at?

[tevans333]

Originally Posted by PumpnDumpling

Also does anyone know when BO "sold out" of boxes and cases?

When/where do you think we see the reload at?

Seems preorders are sold out for the most part at the big three.

[dd316]

Originally Posted by PumpnDumpling

By that barometer i see more people sporting Michael Myers likeness be it on their arm, shirt or vehicle than any easily recognizable MLB reference

I was thinking in terms of merchandising. I wholly disagree with your assessment above. Yes, I see Michael Myers everywhere, too (I wore MM socks the other day). But nowhere near as much Phillies, Mets and Yankees stuff (I'm in the Philly area).

Green Day has sold millions and millions of albums, and sell out every show. No question. But to think they have more appeal than even the New York Yankees alone... I disagree. It's an argument neither of us can win.

[eldavojohn]

Originally Posted by dd316

No question. But to think they have more appeal than even the New York Yankees alone... I disagree. It's an argument neither of us can win.

I think the thread turned into a pop-punk fanfest. Which is fine. But there's a lot of statements being made here that indicate fandom more than logic ... I'll just leave this here if anyone wants revenue numbers for MLB teams. According to gemini, "Saviors Tour" gross: $132.4 million.

But whatever, I'm willing to make a prediction: autos are going to be the lottery ticket with little value elsewhere and the print run is so high that you will eventually have access to these boxes below MSRP. I wish I could say we will pick up base sets for $15 but the checklist is just too huge. Maybe at $30.

It will be more like 2013 Panini Beach Boys than MLB x GPK.

These predictions are not made to incense anyone or denegrate Green Day but instead be a falsifiable statement that can cause me to eat crow if I'm wrong.

[PumpnDumpling]

Originally Posted by dd316

I was thinking in terms of merchandising. I wholly disagree with your assessment above. Yes, I see Michael Myers everywhere, too (I wore MM socks the other day). But nowhere near as much Phillies, Mets and Yankees stuff (I'm in the Philly area).

Green Day has sold millions and millions of albums, and sell out every show. No question. But to think they have more appeal than even the New York Yankees alone... I disagree. It's an argument neither of us can win.

Originally Posted by eldavojohn

I think the thread turned into a pop-punk fanfest. Which is fine. But there's a lot of statements being made here that indicate fandom more than logic ... I'll just leave this here if anyone wants revenue numbers for MLB teams. According to gemini, "Saviors Tour" gross: $132.4 million.

But whatever, I'm willing to make a prediction: autos are going to be the lottery ticket with little value elsewhere and the print run is so high that you will eventually have access to these boxes below MSRP. I wish I could say we will pick up base sets for $15 but the checklist is just too huge. Maybe at $30.

It will be more like 2013 Panini Beach Boys than MLB x GPK.

These predictions are not made to incense anyone or denegrate Green Day but instead be a falsifiable statement that can cause me to eat crow if I'm wrong.

Guys, all you have to do is google it - which has more fans worldwide Green Day or MLB

Alphabet Ai Overlords have spoken

Further Proof; i have a gen z friend in Saudi Arabia that literally quotes Green Day lyrics all the time when we play Outlast!

[eastbayak]

Lots of talk from members who didn't buy the product. Nothing wrong with that but I'm more interested in hearing from those who actually purchased some.

Aside from the autos (that we're all chasing), is there anything else on the checklist that piques your interest?

As previously mentioned, I'm very interested in the "Tribute to East Bay" subset. I'm curious to know what they'll incorporate into the image as well as what they'll look like. And within that set, I've identified a couple cards that I'm even more interested (just from the name) than others, particularly EB-3 and EB-7.

TRIBUTE TO EAST BAY
EB-1 PIN Ball
EB-2 Mt. DIABLO
EB-3 TELEGRAPH Street Close to home, my favorite (Japanese) restaurant (Kiraku) is on this street.
EB-4 HIGHER Learning No clue what this might be but would like to assume it's something related to UC Berkeley
EB-5 Revolting ROSIE
EB-6 Space CHASE
EB-7 FAIRY Land My family has an annual membership (for the last few years) and we (wife/I) periodically take our kids here.
EB-8 Go FISHER

Separately, I'm interested in the American Idiot SPs because I like "regular" (non-parody) cards too. Actually, I don't own a single GPK card in my collection, I strictly bought it because of Green Day (I've only purchased GPK Sapphire boxes at MSRP in the past because they were Montogmery 582 allocations). That's not to say that I can't enjoy them though!

[sketchopolix]

Originally Posted by eastbayak

Lots of talk from members who didn't buy the product. Nothing wrong with that but I'm more interested in hearing from those who actually purchased some.

I'm lookng to make a mini-master for my friend's grandson (the one whose mom was Billie's music teacher in Pinole). He's the right age for the silliness of GPK.

[dunquixote1]

Who cares which has more fans? How do you even define a fan? My wife can quote Green Day songs. But she’s not a Green Day “fan”. She would actually rather go to a baseball game than a Green Day concert desire her even knowing less about baseball. Other than the fact that they’re cards it doesn’t mean you can compare the licenses/demand/interest. A Vette and a Chrysler Town & Country are both cars. Which is better?

[dd316]

Originally Posted by eastbayak

Lots of talk from members who didn't buy the product. Nothing wrong with that but I'm more interested in hearing from those who actually purchased some.

How do you know we didn't buy any?

For the record, I didn't. But I did have 2 boxes in my cart for a while. Ultimately decided I didn't like Green Day enough to justify $160 on the long shot at an autograph, which is all I'd really want.

[eastbayak]

Originally Posted by sketchopolix

I'm lookng to make a mini-master for my friend's grandson (the one whose mom was Billie's music teacher in Pinole). He's the right age for the silliness of GPK.

I plan to rip 5-7 boxes (ordered 7 loose boxes but might keep 1-2 sealed to display around the house if the box art looks cool).

I'll be happy to help you and nephinfan with any set needs (with my duplicates).

Originally Posted by dd316

How do you know we didn't buy any?

For the record, I didn't. But I did have 2 boxes in my cart for a while. Ultimately decided I didn't like Green Day enough to justify $160 on the long shot at an autograph, which is all I'd really want.

How do you know I was talking about you?!

[Bruin7]

Well I’m late to the party. I was in Hawaii looking at properties and had atrocious 5G connection. Grabbed 5 boxes from a competitor’s site to open with my daughter who’s a big Green Day fan. Crazy to think I used to listen to Dookie freshman year of high school and they’re still relevant today with my kids.

Stupid question - are these traditional GPK stickers or Chrome?

[yoyosh]

Originally Posted by eastbayak

Lots of talk from members who didn't buy the product. Nothing wrong with that but I'm more interested in hearing from those who actually purchased some.

I bought one box purely out of curiosity and it wasn't an expensive risk.
I am lucky to have a bunch of signed GD memorabilia so if I don't hit an auto I won't be too upset!

[dd316]

Originally Posted by eastbayak

How do you know I was talking about you?!

Guilty conscience.

[eastbayak]

Originally Posted by Bruin7

Well I’m late to the party. I was in Hawaii looking at properties and had atrocious 5G connection. Grabbed 5 boxes from a competitor’s site to open with my daughter who’s a big Green Day fan. Crazy to think I used to listen to Dookie freshman year of high school and they’re still relevant today with my kids.

Stupid question - are these traditional GPK stickers or Chrome?

What island? Did you pull the trigger to purchase?

Hope ya'll have some nice cards (just not the autos lol).

Originally Posted by yoyosh

I bought one box purely out of curiosity and it wasn't an expensive risk.
I am lucky to have a bunch of signed GD memorabilia so if I don't hit an auto I won't be too upset!

What kind of signed GD memorabilia do you own? Photos, CDs, vinyls, etc?

Would be awfully nice to hit an auto from a 1 box purchase. Best of luck!

Originally Posted by dd316

Guilty conscience.

Hahaha, for the record, I wasn't pointing any finger at you!

The thread was just running off path and I wanted to correct its course. Also wanted to know what people (who purchased the product) were excited about, maybe hear some fun/sentimental stories too.

[hotcalsun]

Originally Posted by PumpnDumpling

Also does anyone know when BO "sold out" of boxes and cases?

When/where do you think we see the reload at?

I looked yesterday when I was considering an additional case, but were sold out. One of the other 2 still had them then.

[LondonGames]

I'm dumb enough to think that theres just about no way these stay at under $150.00/box when they release. Even if the Autos are one every 3 cases, the chase is still 1 in 60 to get one. There's enough value in the relics and numbered stuff and even the base and insert cards, that people will be signing up to roll the dice at that price. The only way they could stay at the price they are now is if the Autos are literally impossible. There is enough history to support this.

I don't want any more than I have now, but anyone who missed out should definitely get in now (I think). I hope the main players don't have some huge supply of it, and that it's really just small amounts for even places like BO and DACW etc.

[PumpnDumpling]

Originally Posted by LondonGames

I'm dumb enough to think that theres just about no way these stay at under $150.00/box when they release. Even if the Autos are one every 3 cases, the chase is still 1 in 60 to get one. There's enough value in the relics and numbered stuff and even the base and insert cards, that people will be signing up to roll the dice at that price. The only way they could stay at the price they are now is if the Autos are literally impossible. There is enough history to support this.

I don't want any more than I have now, but anyone who missed out should definitely get in now (I think). I hope the main players don't have some huge supply of it, and that it's really just small amounts for even places like BO and DACW etc.

I feel like you may be sniffing your own farts a bit but your head is in the right place. If $135-140 dlvd is already happening $150 is just a stones throw. Also as Vegeta previously mentioned i can also see singles sales doing very well at least initially which could prop sealed prices up even more