Sports Card Podcasts

[cholodolo]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

If a content creator gets popular enough, they can reach a point of doing it full time as a profession -- that's the goal of almost all of them. It's very hard for me to believe any of them would pass on the opportunity to take sponsorship money if it means making a career out of it.

Again, disagree completely -- many of those with channels have nice careers they wouldn't dare leave to make YouTube videos. Many have families, house payments etc. For many, the internet is the only place to feel like a part of the card community. For example, not a single friend of mine collects cards.

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by cholodolo

Again, disagree completely -- many of those with channels have nice careers they wouldn't dare leave to make YouTube videos. Many have families, house payments etc. For many, the internet is the only place to feel like a part of the card community. For example, not a single friend of mine collects cards.

You don't have to be a YouTuber or podcaster to feel a part of the card community. That's just a warped view of the hobby since 2020, where hobby influencers suddenly became common place.

Once you step into the influencer and content generation arena, you're trying to generate clicks and monetize your content -- that's the economic model. Sure, plenty of content creators have day jobs, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't trade them in for the opportunity to be a full-time influencer if it meant equal money. They're creating hobby content because they enjoy it, after all. Who wouldn't want to make a profession out of their hobby?

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

You don't have to be a YouTuber or podcaster to feel a part of the card community. That's just a warped view of the hobby since 2020, where hobby influencers suddenly became common place.

Once you step into the influencer and content generation arena, you're trying to generate clicks and monetize your content -- that's the economic model. Sure, plenty of content creators have day jobs, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't trade them in for the opportunity to be a full-time influencer if it meant equal money. They're creating hobby content because they enjoy it, after all. Who wouldn't want to make a profession out of their hobby?

Speaking of warped view.

First, he didn't say they had to be a youtuber or podcaster to feel part of the community. He said they use the internet to feel part of the community. Making videos and connecting via that platform is one way to connect to the community via the internet.

Second, your assumptions about intent are about as warped as it gets. It is absolutely untrue that once you step into content creation your goal is to generate clicks and monetize your content. You don't all of a sudden automatically change your viewpoint and intentions just because you use a platform that has the capability to earn money. That's a warped view of people. Sure, some people have a desire to make money when making content. But not everyone.

Finally, there are absolutely plenty of people who would not create content full time even if it meant the same or more money. And there are absolutely people who do not want to make a job out of their hobby. I, for one, have no desire to turn my hobby into a job. The whole point of a hobby is to enjoy a part of your life outside your work and the stresses that come from the necessity to earn money to provide for your needs. Once you step into the realm of needing to make money off your hobby, that stress-free experience fades into the stresses of work. I have no interest in making the hobby I love work, and taking away the things I like most about it.

Feel free to have a warped, jaded view of people. But I can guarantee you there are many content creators who break the mold you are trying to put them in. I know because I watch some of them. And because you are arguing with at least one of them in this very thread.

[bub838]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

You don't have to be a YouTuber or podcaster to feel a part of the card community. That's just a warped view of the hobby since 2020, where hobby influencers suddenly became common place.

Once you step into the influencer and content generation arena, you're trying to generate clicks and monetize your content -- that's the economic model. Sure, plenty of content creators have day jobs, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't trade them in for the opportunity to be a full-time influencer if it meant equal money. They're creating hobby content because they enjoy it, after all. Who wouldn't want to make a profession out of their hobby?

As someone who has done this (not trading cards, different hobby) I don't recommend it for everyone. For me personally it took all of the joy out of what I had previously loved. Seeing how the sausage is made killed it for me.

I'm firmly in the camp of: Don't make a job out of your hobby, instead find a job that funds your hobby.

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

First, he didn't say they had to be a youtuber or podcaster to feel part of the community. He said they use the internet to feel part of the community. Making videos and connecting via that platform is one way to connect to the community via the internet.

You can feel more connected to the card community by publishing videos of yourself discussing the hobby? Does a Christian need to become a preacher to feel closer to their community? Some people just want to be seen and be influential.

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

Second, your assumptions about intent are about as warped as it gets. It is absolutely untrue that once you step into content creation your goal is to generate clicks and monetize your content. You don't all of a sudden automatically change your viewpoint and intentions just because you use a platform that has the capability to earn money. That's a warped view of people. Sure, some people have a desire to make money when making content. But not everyone.

This is how naïve you are and why influencers sucker so many people with their grift. The reason why you post on YouTube or other social media platforms is to ultimately monetize your content. It's not cynical to point out the obvious. I have nothing against people taking money in exchange for their work. But I do have a problem with a lack of disclosure of conflicts of interest.

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

Finally, there are absolutely plenty of people who would not create content full time even if it meant the same or more money. And there are absolutely people who do not want to make a job out of their hobby. I, for one, have no desire to turn my hobby into a job. The whole point of a hobby is to enjoy a part of your life outside your work and the stresses that come from the necessity to earn money to provide for your needs. Once you step into the realm of needing to make money off your hobby, that stress-free experience fades into the stresses of work. I have no interest in making the hobby I love work, and taking away the things I like most about it.

I'm not talking about people changing how they participate in their hobby in order to make a full-time career out of it. I'm talking about content creators being able to make enough money form their hobby to not have to work another job -- that's all. They can continue to buy and sell cards for fun and generate content. I'm not saying it's practical, only that everyone would love to be able to spend all their time doing their hobby.

[Absknicks]

I don't have any issue with people making $ off their content/videos, think that's actually a good thing for the hobby overall.

However I do think these bigger channels have a responsibility to disclose to their viewers when they have sponsorships or partnership deals with other companies and are pushing their products for them. I.e. "is this Panini Prizm Mega Box the best retail product out there" type stuff seems quite underhanded if you're not telling people upfront that Panini is paying you to open this on camera.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

The reason why you post on YouTube or other social media platforms is to ultimately monetize your content. It's not cynical to point out the obvious.

It's not cynical, it's stupid. This has got to be the dumbest take I've ever seen.

The reality is that probably less than 10% of all content on youtube or social media platforms is made by someone attempting to monetize it. Heck, you can't even monetize on youtube until you have 1000 subscribers, and most people I watch are happily living in the <1000 subscriber world and not remotely worried about reaching that threshold.

And yes, making youtube videos is one way to connect to other collectors you may not be able to connect with otherwise. You post a video of your collection, and someone stumbles across it and follows you. Maybe they reach out to you and you add to your network of people. It's no different than instagram. I literally have an instagram account for one reason: to connect with other collectors of some of the rare cards I look for. I post pictures of my cards for no other reason than to hope people see it and connect with me. Those connections are a great way to participate in the hobby with other like-minded collectors, and almost essential to tracking down truly scarce cards. I have no desire to monetize my instragram account. I have never made a card video on youtube, but have some videos of my family on youtube. No chance I will monetize that. It's just ignorant to assume everyone who makes a video or posts on social medai does it to ultimately monetize it.

[ThoseBackPages]

its Mookie Betts all over again.

there are people on YouTube that make card content because they enjoy sharing their collections and their decades of knowledge.

YouTube is also a great way for fathers to show their kids what they love doing that doenst often get shown when their family records family videos

[OhioLawyerF5]

Fabiani is just projecting his greedy character flaws on everyone else.

[sauceboy]

Sports Cards Nonsense has been renewed by The Ringer for three more years.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by sauceboy

Sports Cards Nonsense has been renewed by The Ringer for three more years.

Enough mouth breathers in the “hobby” to keep it going. Simmons also needs a venue to not so obviously pump his buddy Rubin’s garbage.

[fabiani12333]

Sports Card Radio did a surprise live-stream on Thursday -- I guess the big fake memorabilia/autograph scandal inspired them to come out of semi-retirement.

I listened to the whole dang thing the last few days as I was doing various choirs and such. These guys trashed the entire hobby -- they didn't hold back. They criticized other sport card content, saying content-creators/influencers like Geoff Wilson and Ty Wilson are "micro"-sized compared to Pokemon channels with much higher view counts, and they produce "average"-quality content -- basically, bland, safe, and mediocre content.

These guys also made it clear they have better things to do with their time than to make content or sell cards, as the sports card industry is not lucrative to them anymore. They even speculated that Geoff Wilson secretly wants out of the hobby, as things haven't panned out like he'd hoped.

It's kind of depressing when you think about it -- even the SCR boys don't think the hobby is worth their time to roast/lampoon anymore.

[OhioLawyerF5]

SCR is shock jock content for morons. Their takes deserve the attention of a screaming toddler. Although the toddler provides valuable insight far more often.

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

Sports Card Radio did a surprise live-stream on Thursday -- I guess the big fake memorabilia/autograph scandal inspired them to come out of semi-retirement.

I listened to the whole dang thing the last few days as I was doing various choirs and such. These guys trashed the entire hobby -- they didn't hold back. They criticized other sport card content, saying content-creators/influencers like Geoff Wilson and Ty Wilson are "micro"-sized compared to Pokemon channels with much higher view counts, and they produce "average"-quality content -- basically, bland, safe, and mediocre content.

These guys also made it clear they have better things to do with their time than to make content or sell cards, as the sports card industry is not lucrative to them anymore. They even speculated that Geoff Wilson secretly wants out of the hobby, as things haven't panned out like he'd hoped.

It's kind of depressing when you think about it -- even the SCR boys don't think the hobby is worth their time to roast/lampoon anymore.

Who cares what they think? Like, seriously, who cares if they have better things to do? I’ve never listened to their show, but they sound like absolutely miserable people.

Hasn’t trashing the hobby been their thing for a while now anyway?

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

Hasn’t trashing the hobby been their thing for a while now anyway?

Yeah, "negativity" has always been their thing, but they'd usually mix in compliments and talk about what they think is good about the hobby. But during this live stream, they basically said everything was bad and to stay away.

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

Yeah, "negativity" has always been their thing, but they'd usually mix in compliments and talk about what they think is good about the hobby. But during this live stream, they basically said everything was bad and to stay away.

Cool. I’m fine with that since the people being scared away by them are probably more of the flipper crowd. And it is true that the Covid money days are well behind us.

[auctionjmm]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

Yeah, "negativity" has always been their thing, but they'd usually mix in compliments and talk about what they think is good about the hobby. But during this live stream, they basically said everything was bad and to stay away.

They also casually ended the show by saying the Dallas Card Show theft was staged and an insurance scam, without providing any evidence. These guys are washed. The old SCR would have compiled tons of evidence, posted it, contacted the feds, and then bragged about how they got some schmuck arrested for a 2 million dollar insurance scheme. Now they can't even be bothered to elaborate. That's a hell of an accusation to make without evidence.

Nothing they said sounded depressing to me because it was all opinion and mostly stuff that I disagreed with anyway. Chasing Cardboard is a great show, IMO. I'm not gonna stop watching because SCR thinks it's boring lol.

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by auctionjmm

They also casually ended the show by saying the Dallas Card Show theft was staged and an insurance scam, without providing any evidence.

I was wondering about that -- they said the dealer who was robbed was confronted about a card that was reported stolen being auctioned off by him.

If true, that seems sketchy.

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

Cool. I’m fine with that since the people being scared away by them are probably more of the flipper crowd. And it is true that the Covid money days are well behind us.

I agree -- collectors like you and I would still be collecting even if the market tanked.

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

I agree -- collectors like you and I would still be collecting even if the market tanked.

It’s been so much fun collecting these last two years. If a guy like Junior Caminero had come out in 2020… oh man, his prices would have been insane before he had even played an MLB game. People got a much smoother ramp up with him now in ‘24/‘25. He’s still somewhat affordable.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

It’s been so much fun collecting these last two years. If a guy like Junior Caminero had come out in 2020… oh man, his prices would have been insane before he had even played an MLB game. People got a much smoother ramp up with him now in ‘24/‘25. He’s still somewhat affordable.

Depends what you are collecting. A card I want sold in 2023 for $1300, and just sold this week for $9100. Things have skyrocketed in price the last 2 years that I've been looking for.

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

Depends what you are collecting. A card I want sold in 2023 for $1300, and just sold this week for $9100. Things have skyrocketed in price the last 2 years that I've been looking for.

A 90’s insert? Seems like those have been hot lately. Lots of cool stuff posted in that thread. My uneducated theory is that Jordan inserts are driving the market and his rising tide is lifting all the 90’s insert boats. What’s your take on the current scene there?

[kipgen]

Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

Who cares what they think? Like, seriously, who cares if they have better things to do? I’ve never listened to their show, but they sound like absolutely miserable people.

Hasn’t trashing the hobby been their thing for a while now anyway?

Yeah I listened to the stream and it sounds like they don't even collect sports cards ("pictures of men" as they say) so idk why they're actually chiming in at all

Also one of them took the time to mention his girlfriend is 27(???) which... how is that a flex exactly? lol

They go on to say that rather than collecting sports cards you should be making leveraged calls on nvidia stock, so... good luck with that

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Originally Posted by kipgen

Yeah I listened to the stream and it sounds like they don't even collect sports cards ("pictures of men" as they say) so idk why they're actually chiming in at all

Also one of them took the time to mention his girlfriend is 27(???) which... how is that a flex exactly? lol

They go on to say that rather than collecting sports cards you should be making leveraged calls on nvidia stock, so... good luck with that

Sounds like they should change their name from Sports Card Radio to… Radio?

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

A 90’s insert? Seems like those have been hot lately. Lots of cool stuff posted in that thread. My uneducated theory is that Jordan inserts are driving the market and his rising tide is lifting all the 90’s insert boats. What’s your take on the current scene there?

Yeah, I think the Jordan, and consequently the basketball, market has pushed 90s baseball to some degree. Especially those sets with crossover appeal (PMGs, Essential Credentials, etc...). But I think that was during the covid boom several years ago. I think with the growth of the hobby in post-covid years, the biggest driving force is just the age of collectors. So many who grew up collecting 90s cards and players are coming back for those rare cardss they could never get. And they are going hard.