Is Kyle Schwarber a HOFer? - Page 19

Archangel1775 · 07-17-2025, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

By WAR he's been the 34th best positional player in the league, I said something similar earlier in the thread, I don't know how anyone could believe a guy who has never even been even the 30th best position player in the league for a single season could be a HOFer.

He could play until he was 60 getting counting stats and he's not a HOFer. Very good player for plenty of seasons, never a HOFer and there hasn't been one statistical argument in this thread that would suggest he is or is on pace other than potential antiquated 'benchmark' numbers.

Not true. he'd go the route of Frank Gore in football. Stat accumulation. If he actually played until 60...

Age 33-36 seasons= 45 Home Runs per season =180 Home Runs
37-43=30 Home Runs per season =210 Home Runs
Age 44-50= 10 Home Runs per season = 70 Home Runs
Age 50-60 = 5 Home Runs per season = 55 Home Runs

Current Total=314
Age 33-60 Total = 515 Home Runs

Career Total = 829 Home Runs

Most Home Runs in MLB History

Everyone else are chumps.

SaveMeTheGum · 07-17-2025, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

Not true. he'd go the route of Frank Gore in football. Stat accumulation. If he actually played until 60...

Age 33-36 seasons= 45 Home Runs per season =180 Home Runs
37-43=30 Home Runs per season =210 Home Runs
Age 44-50= 10 Home Runs per season = 70 Home Runs
Age 50-60 = 5 Home Runs per season = 55 Home Runs

Current Total=314
Age 33-60 Total = 515 Home Runs

Career Total = 829 Home Runs

Most Home Runs in MLB History

Everyone else are chumps.

You can't argue with math!

hche · 07-18-2025, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

Not true. he'd go the route of Frank Gore in football. Stat accumulation. If he actually played until 60...

Age 33-36 seasons= 45 Home Runs per season =180 Home Runs
37-43=30 Home Runs per season =210 Home Runs
Age 44-50= 10 Home Runs per season = 70 Home Runs
Age 50-60 = 5 Home Runs per season = 55 Home Runs

Current Total=314
Age 33-60 Total = 515 Home Runs

Career Total = 829 Home Runs

Most Home Runs in MLB History

Everyone else are chumps.

Based on that math, he only needs to play until 49.

HeritageKing · 07-23-2025, 06:27 PM

Can someone please tell kyle that the siwng off is over, he doesn’t need to keep hitting bombs anymore.

oldgoldy97 · 07-25-2025, 08:42 PM

A double dong day!

HeritageKing · 07-25-2025, 09:02 PM

>Judge

jackwesq · 07-25-2025, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

Not true. he'd go the route of Frank Gore in football. Stat accumulation. If he actually played until 60...

Age 33-36 seasons= 45 Home Runs per season =180 Home Runs
37-43=30 Home Runs per season =210 Home Runs
Age 44-50= 10 Home Runs per season = 70 Home Runs
Age 50-60 = 5 Home Runs per season = 55 Home Runs

Current Total=314
Age 33-60 Total = 515 Home Runs

Career Total = 829 Home Runs

Most Home Runs in MLB History

Everyone else are chumps.

Julio Franco is the oldest person to hit a MLB home run.

He hit his last career home run on May 4, 2007 at 48 years and 254 days old ... off of Randy Johnson!

What's more crazy is that he his first career home run on April 9, 1983.

So 24+ years between his first and last home runs; I can't see that record being broken anytime soon, if ever.

jharri71 · 07-26-2025, 04:42 PM

Reminds my of Jim Thome

Big35Hurt · 08-03-2025, 08:11 PM

#38....he's a lock at this point.

HeritageKing · 08-04-2025, 07:33 PM

That was an absolute moon shot. Ryan Howard used to hit it that far. I mean if the Phillies win a championship with Kyle leading an MVP year, you have to believe the stars are aligned for a HOF induction. He is just lights out right now.

JustinVerlander07 · 08-04-2025, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by HeritageKing

That was an absolute moon shot. Ryan Howard used to hit it that far. I mean if the Phillies win a championship with Kyle leading an MVP year, you have to believe the stars are aligned for a HOF induction. He is just lights out right now.

Why would that make him a HOFer? For having 1 season as a top 30 position player?

HeritageKing · 08-04-2025, 07:39 PM

You have GOT to be kidding me!

kyle1707 · 08-04-2025, 07:46 PM

Stud ….

johnlocke36 · 08-04-2025, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

Why would that make him a HOFer? For having 1 season as a top 30 position player?

fun stat I saw today: He’s the first player in MLB history to hit at least 38 home runs in his first 4 seasons with any team

and he'll be all time post season HR leader soon

JustinVerlander07 · 08-04-2025, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnlocke36

fun stat I saw today: He’s the first player in MLB history to hit at least 38 home runs in his first 4 seasons with any team

and he'll be all time post season HR leader soon

The fact it says at least 38 home runs shows how cherry picked it is. What is the number at 37? 36? 35?

I like Schwarber, so it's not me being a 'hater', but the guy is in his first season as a top 30 position player. This is the Nick Markakis argument all over again.

JustinVerlander07 · 08-04-2025, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnlocke36

fun stat I saw today: He’s the first player in MLB history to hit at least 38 home runs in his first 4 seasons with any team

and he'll be all time post season HR leader soon

Googled a couple names. Took the 3rd name to dispel this one. Rafael Palmeiro had at least 39 home runs his 1st 4 seasons with the Rangers. Nelson Cruz had 44, 43, 39 and 37 in his 4 years as a Mariner.

wharfrat7624 · 08-04-2025, 09:22 PM

He’s NOT a HOFr…

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no10pin · 08-04-2025, 09:36 PM

You have to respect the OP for creating a thread that got people to repeatedly declare that KYLE SCHWARBER IS NOT A HALL OF FAMER! for 19 pages.

He has a chance. It's a small chance, but I'd love to see him hit 120 HRs over the next 3 years and make things interesting, because that would be fun.

If you have fun angrily declaring that it's impossible, then you get to do that too. Everyone wins!

HeritageKing · 08-04-2025, 09:56 PM

If Phil Rizzuto and his 38 career home runs can get in and Harold Baines, who has 60 more home runs than Kyle in 4500+ more at bats, can get in, why the heck can’t this guy get in? He is basically the best hitter in all of baseball right now, and was in the conversation last year. He is a stud in the post season. His strike outs are way down this season and he is 3rd overall in walks.

I mean if you compare him to who is actually in, and not so and so who isn’t in, Kyle is right there. If in three years he is sitting at 450 HR’s with a pair of rings and maybe a WS MVP, how do you say that Baines and Rizzuto are more deserving?

HeritageKing · 08-04-2025, 09:58 PM

Oh and look up Bill Mazeroski’s stats while you are at it.

oldgoldy97 · 08-04-2025, 10:00 PM

Bomb 600 will change many minds.

HeritageKing · 08-04-2025, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

Bomb 600 will change many minds.

Name me anyone in baseball right now that will play that long? 450 is the new 500.

wharfrat7624 · 08-04-2025, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeritageKing

If Phil Rizzuto and his 38 career home runs can get in and Harold Baines, who has 60 more home runs than Kyle in 4500+ more at bats, can get in, why the heck can’t this guy get in? He is basically the best hitter in all of baseball right now, and was in the conversation last year. He is a stud in the post season. His strike outs are way down this season and he is 3rd overall in walks.

I mean if you compare him to who is actually in, and not so and so who isn’t in, Kyle is right there. If in three years he is sitting at 450 HR’s with a pair of rings and maybe a WS MVP, how do you say that Baines and Rizzuto are more deserving?

Best hitter in baseball? I guess you forgot about Judge and Ohtani…

These Phillies Phans crack me up…

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JAM061200 · 08-05-2025, 05:24 AM

Schwarber is definitely in the conversation for MVP. If you look at the stats between him and Ohtani, they're not much different. Don't be ready to accumulate all those Ohtani Chrome cards for buybacks just yet.

JustinVerlander07 · 08-05-2025, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by HeritageKing

If Phil Rizzuto and his 38 career home runs can get in and Harold Baines, who has 60 more home runs than Kyle in 4500+ more at bats, can get in, why the heck can’t this guy get in? He is basically the best hitter in all of baseball right now, and was in the conversation last year. He is a stud in the post season. His strike outs are way down this season and he is 3rd overall in walks.

I mean if you compare him to who is actually in, and not so and so who isn’t in, Kyle is right there. If in three years he is sitting at 450 HR’s with a pair of rings and maybe a WS MVP, how do you say that Baines and Rizzuto are more deserving?

Schwarber is having a great season. The best season of his career, he might have a 5 WAR season. His first time ever!

Saying "this underdeserving guy got in, lets put another in!" is poor logic.

How many seasons has Schwarber been a top 10 positional player in Baseball? Zero

Top 20? Still zero

Top 30? Zero

2025 will be his first season.

Nick Markakis 2.0.

There isn't a legitmate statistical argument you could make to say he's objectively a HOFer or on a HOF path.

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08-04-2025, 07:33 PM	#460
HeritageKing Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 5,611	That was an absolute moon shot. Ryan Howard used to hit it that far. I mean if the Phillies win a championship with Kyle leading an MVP year, you have to believe the stars are aligned for a HOF induction. He is just lights out right now. __________________ #2 Topps Heritage Autograph Collector

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no10pin Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 16,806 no10pin no10pin	You have to respect the OP for creating a thread that got people to repeatedly declare that KYLE SCHWARBER IS NOT A HALL OF FAMER! for 19 pages. He has a chance. It's a small chance, but I'd love to see him hit 120 HRs over the next 3 years and make things interesting, because that would be fun. If you have fun angrily declaring that it's impossible, then you get to do that too. Everyone wins! __________________ Always looking for more George Brett stuff. Need more rookies, low numbered inserts/parallels and on-card autos (no Panini).

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oldgoldy97 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 49,745	A double dong day!

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jharri71 Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 309	Reminds my of Jim Thome

08-03-2025, 08:11 PM	#459
Big35Hurt Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 9,434	#38....he's a lock at this point.

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kyle1707 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 20,351	Stud ….

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wharfrat7624 Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Mt Laurel, NJ Posts: 6,581	He’s NOT a HOFr… Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

08-04-2025, 09:56 PM	#469
HeritageKing Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 5,611	If Phil Rizzuto and his 38 career home runs can get in and Harold Baines, who has 60 more home runs than Kyle in 4500+ more at bats, can get in, why the heck can’t this guy get in? He is basically the best hitter in all of baseball right now, and was in the conversation last year. He is a stud in the post season. His strike outs are way down this season and he is 3rd overall in walks. I mean if you compare him to who is actually in, and not so and so who isn’t in, Kyle is right there. If in three years he is sitting at 450 HR’s with a pair of rings and maybe a WS MVP, how do you say that Baines and Rizzuto are more deserving? __________________ #2 Topps Heritage Autograph Collector

08-04-2025, 09:58 PM	#470
HeritageKing Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 5,611	Oh and look up Bill Mazeroski’s stats while you are at it. __________________ #2 Topps Heritage Autograph Collector

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oldgoldy97 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 49,745	Bomb 600 will change many minds.

08-05-2025, 05:24 AM	#474
JAM061200 Member Join Date: Nov 2022 Location: New York Posts: 1,626	Schwarber is definitely in the conversation for MVP. If you look at the stats between him and Ohtani, they're not much different. Don't be ready to accumulate all those Ohtani Chrome cards for buybacks just yet.