10-12K to put into a card to hold right now, what are you choosing?

[hammertime]

Jackie is my answer as well.

[GabrielCards]

Originally Posted by brewtown107

Father time always wins. He's now 33 years old and still has not reached 350 home runs. It's questionable that he gets to 500 home runs, if you're being realistic. You have to assume good health for the next several seasons and very little decline as he passes age 35. And that's to reach 500. I'd say he has a 50-50 chance at 500. Which is pretty good! No chance at 600 or 700. He started too late. I like Judge as a player, but he's the flavor of the moment.

Ok well I respectully disagree. He will be at around 370 HRs at the end of this season at age 33. Only 130 more to 500? That's easy. He only needs to average 37.5 HRs per year for his age 34 35 36 and 37 seasons to get to 500 (yet he usually hits over 50). 500 HRs is 95 percent. Now 600 or more is more like 50-50.

[ThoseBackPages]

1952 Topps Jackie

[discodanman45]

I am thinking of getting a lower grade 1951 Mantle. His true RC for a fraction of the price of his 1952 Topps card in poor condition. No brainer for me.

[GabrielCards]

oops...

[JRX]

Originally Posted by Zoop

Jackie is the only one who is bona fide American history, so assuming it will still be legal to speak about what he did in a couple of years, I'll go with Jackie every day.

The only figure I'd put above Jackie, though he wasn't on this list, is Ruth. Dropping 5 figures on any modern player seems like a great way to lose 5 figures.

[ScooterD]

Originally Posted by Cracktoast

Why Hank Aaron?

Great player and HOF but the one record he held has been broken and he wasn't the first black player like Robinson. The only thing that made him stand out from all the other great players of his era was the HR Record which even by his own words belongs to someone else now regardless what you or I think of him or how he did it. 100 yrs from now Aaron will be remembered as a great athlete who once upon a time broke a record that was later broken.

Originally Posted by jhssketchcards

Aaron still has the all-time RBI, XBH and Total Base records. No one is breaking those.


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Thank you for correcting the disseminated misinformation.

Also wanted to throw out that a nice vintage Jim Thorpe card would be for my consideration.

[livfreely]

Originally Posted by GabrielCards

Ok well I respectully disagree. He will be at around 370 HRs at the end of this season at age 33. Only 130 more to 500? That's easy. He only needs to average 37.5 HRs per year for his age 34 35 36 and 37 seasons to get to 500 (yet he usually hits over 50). 500 HRs is 95 percent. Now 600 or more is more like 50-50.

Plus he will get that WS win within that timeframe. Baseball will not allow it any other way. When that happens….to the mooooon!!!


My vote is for the Willie. He’s probably, if not, the best player baseball has ever had. When his talents finally are respected/realized on a broader spectrum of collectors his prices will adjust higher. His adjusted for era WAR tells us he is the best.

BUT if you want the most upside in your 10year timeframe, Judge is the answer. Ohtani’s prices do not have as much room for growth as Judges do.


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[jhssketchcards]

I personally would stay away from any modern player. Look how much Trouts cards have dropped versus peak prices. How many “invested” in him?
These guys are all one drug test, scandal, arrest, or Aaron Hernandez-style crime away from hobby destruction. No one saw the Wander Franco fallout coming and many lost big on him too.
Judge and Ohtani (ask great as they are) are still not immune to injuries as well. Ohtani is coming off his 2nd TJ. Judge has injury history, although both are playing at unreal levels now… but we’ve seen it too many times before where a guy misses 3-4 seasons with things like wrist, leg or other “small” injuries that rob them of production.

For me the safe play is HOF guys or Pokemon. You’re never going to catch a Charizard in a court room.


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[oldgoldy97]

If Father Time always wins, did the guys over 600 home runs average 50 a year and fizzle out at 33 years old? Or were they all playing at 17 years old?

[SleepyWill]

Originally Posted by brewtown107

Why not a Goudey Ruth? He's still got a better claim to GOAT status than several of those guys.

Just speaking strictly rookie cards at the moment.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by Cracktoast

Why Hank Aaron?

Great player and HOF but the one record he held has been broken and he wasn't the first black player like Robinson. The only thing that made him stand out from all the other great players of his era was the HR Record which even by his own words belongs to someone else now regardless what you or I think of him or how he did it. 100 yrs from now Aaron will be remembered as a great athlete who once upon a time broke a record that was later broken.

Tell me you don't understand baseball history without telling me you don't understand baseball history.

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by SleepyWill

Just speaking strictly rookie cards at the moment.

Why is the Jordan card on the list then?

[SleepyWill]

I'm honestly surprised that Jordan/Mays are receiving 3 votes combined.

With how crazy the 86' Fleer set went 2021-23 and Mays being considered by most as the most complete player of all time.

[parkerj33]

I always enjoy these threads, and thankfully no one is complaining about how sports cards are a bad investment, blah blah blah. yea, they all have a point but the idea of this thread is ASSUME spending free money on these...what would you pick.

Personally I would prefer a 33 goudey ruth....

Best upside is an active player, but also the greatest downside/risk. So its really a question of risk tolerance.

No real wrong answers here...i think for the list i would pick the 48 leaf jackie or a 51bowman mantle...true rookie cards....

I also think a t206 green portrait cobb is a great choice and prices are a bit softer now.

[SleepyWill]

Going to attempt to flip 4 cards into one from the list above.

Right now I'm leaning Robinson, Jordan, Mantle, Mays, Aaron, Ohtani.

But obviously it will come down to price, availability, trade value, and card appeal.

[SleepyWill]

2 Ohtani very low pop SSSPs
1 Mookie very low pop SSSP
1 Mookie BC auto

[brewtown107]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

If Father Time always wins, did the guys over 600 home runs average 50 a year and fizzle out at 33 years old? Or were they all playing at 17 years old?

How many of them faced 100 mph sliders? This is a different era. If Judge has Bonds-like production in his late 30s against this era's pitching, then people will have to seriously question whether he was doing other Bonds-like things. To be clear, I'm not suggesting that, which is why I believe he will decline like most guys do as he reaches his late 30s.

And seriously, you can't possibly dispute that Father Time always wins. It's sooner for some guys and later for others, but it always happens.

[asujbl]

Griffey

I have Brady or I would take that

I don’t want anything that isn’t a 10

[eastbayak]

Originally Posted by SleepyWill

I'm honestly surprised that Jordan/Mays are receiving 3 votes combined.

With how crazy the 86' Fleer set went 2021-23 and Mays being considered by most as the most complete player of all time.

I primarily collect basketball and wouldn’t waste funds on a 86-87 Fleer Jordan at current market rate prices. No matter how iconic the card is, it’s widely available (I say this as someone who owned a copy in the past).

[DioBrando]

Probably none of the cards listed, Instead id go with nicest goudey Ruth I could find..for the poll went with Jordan though Jackie was a.close 2nd.

[Jsquared123]

I would also consider a higher grade 55 Clemente RC. From a cultural perspective, he's up there (or close) with Jackie and Babe and was active more recently than either. I dont think 12k gets into a 7 anymore, but a strong 6 can be had for maybe a bit more than half your budget.

Personally I don't think you can go wrong either most of those choices and as much as I love the 86F MJ, I'd spring for an on card auto in a Bulls uni, if they can be had for 10-12k still.

Of your options listed, I voted for the 51B Mick. Mantle is money in the bank and that card has done nothing but increase in value as far as I can remember. For perspective, I thought I slightly overpaid for a decently centered, well registered, no printer lines copy back in 2017-18. It was a PSA 2 and I think I paid 4-4500. I don't remember which. I flipped it for a small profit a year or so later. If I had held, id be at least double my money, probably more.

[SleepyWill]

Figured I'd include pop reports as well.

No idea how to pull SGC reports and I can't find 2013 Bowman Chrome Black autos, if anyone can find I'll add.

Pop report by William Stokinger, on Flickr

[eastbayak]

When referring to the 2018 Topps Ohtani black, you're actually referring to #700, right?

[SleepyWill]

Originally Posted by eastbayak

When referring to the 2018 Topps Ohtani black, you're actually referring to #700, right?

Good catch!