Highest HR Hit and Batting Average not in HOF

[Handsome Wes]

Originally Posted by Imnottheonly

I'd argue for players of that era that Kenny Lofton would be more deserving than Delgado. 68 vs. 44 career bWAR, excellent offensive and defensive outfielder and when you compare him side by side with Ichiro its a bit mind boggling that Lofton was a one and done candidate (he's not better than Ichiro but statistically he's about 90% of Ichiro).

It was all a byproduct of the stacked HOF ballot at the time. Ten players on that same ballot have since been inducted into the HOF, and that doesn't count Schilling / Bonds / Clemens, plus Sosa, McGwire, Palmeiro, and players such as Don Mattingly and Dale Murphy, who ~could~ make it one day. With a 10-person limit, Lofton got squeezed. He definitely deserved more time for people to debate his candidacy.

[Skipscards]

Originally Posted by rogueriver

Just wondering who has the following that is not in the Hall of Fame. Not including banned players like Rose, and Bonds or current players Trying too se where the lines are drawn
1 most career home runs
2. Most career hits
3. Highest career batting average
4. Player with the highest combined stats from above not in Hall

Here are the top 10 in each of these. I extended past the top 10 for anyone not yet eligible for the Hall. Any additional notes are with each pic...


1. HOMERUNS - Overall, it's Barry Bonds. Pujols, Miggy, Cruz, and Dunn are not yet eligible for the Hall, so the list has 14 players. If you are looking for non-PED implications among eligibles, the answer is Carlos Delgado.


2. HITS - Overall, it's Pete Rose. Pujols, Miggy, and Beltran are not yet eligible for the Hall, so the list has 13 players. If you are looking for non-PED implications among eligibles, the answer is Pete Rose. If you are looking to exclude formerly banned players AND non-PED implications among eligibles, the answer is Omar Vizquel. If you are looking to exclude formerly banned players AND non-PED implications among elgibles AND wife beaters, the answer is Johnny Damon.


3. BATTING AVERAGE - Overall, the answer is Joe Jackson. For Batting Average, I excluded the 19th Century and went with a minimum of 3,500 PAs so you'd have players who played the minimum 10 seasons. If you are looking to exclude formerly banned players, the answer is Lefty O'Doul.


4. COMBINED - Overall, the answer is Manny Ramirez. Miggy, Freeman, Pujols, Votto, and Goldschmidt are not yet eligible so the list is 15 players. For this one, I went with the highest batting average of any player with at least 300 HRs and 2,000 Hits. If you are looking for non-PED implications among eligibles, the answer is Moises Alou.

[TBTC Baseball]

Originally Posted by Skipscards

the answer is Moises Alou.

Definitely not the name I expected to see pop up.

[Rooftop]

Always thought Kenny Lofton should've gotten more votes

[CardboardCracka]

I know he's not the highest in batting average, but one player that comes to mind for me is Bill Madlock. I might be biased as a Pirates fan, but the dude won 4 batting titles! He has a career .305 average over 7000+ PAs. 8 out of his first 10 years he hit over 300.

[Skipscards]

Originally Posted by CardboardCracka

I know he's not the highest in batting average, but one player that comes to mind for me is Bill Madlock. I might be biased as a Pirates fan, but the dude won 4 batting titles! He has a career .305 average over 7000+ PAs. 8 out of his first 10 years he hit over 300.

Mad Dog was great, just didn't hit a lot of homers.