2025 Topps Chrome VeeFriends

[PurplesaurusRex]

Originally Posted by bub838

Now try “Erect Elephant” on Google

No thanks, not interested in trying it.

[armyml]

I list a lot of cards on Ebay for my store. I've got over 7k feedback and running. Today I listed 6 Veefriends cards. I had 4 offers within 10 minutes(all lowball). Eventually BINS just got smashed on them all. Base card for 19 bucks(some cat) Variation of the cat with blue eyes instead of yellow for $120. And a beetle /25 for $300.

I don't know who these people are but people are buying the singles as well as the boxes. Even listing Bowman baseball singles on release day I didnt get offers that quick.

[bub838]

Sales on terapeak at $450.
This is fascinating to watch.

[dd316]

Originally Posted by armyml

I don't know who these people are but people are buying the singles as well as the boxes. Even listing Bowman baseball singles on release day I didnt get offers that quick.

FOMO - gotta get em now before they go up up up!! At least it sounds like you made some money off it, can't say that about many products nowadays.

Curious, does the boom of this set drive interest in the older stuff?

[Spinz]

All I’m going to say is I understand release strategy, I understand the target market, and I understand what Gary and Rubes are tryna do. But the fact that they made it damn near impossible to get ahold of without having the money for a VeeFriends NFT helps no one

[49erRCCollector]

Originally Posted by armyml

I list a lot of cards on Ebay for my store. I've got over 7k feedback and running. Today I listed 6 Veefriends cards. I had 4 offers within 10 minutes(all lowball). Eventually BINS just got smashed on them all. Base card for 19 bucks(some cat) Variation of the cat with blue eyes instead of yellow for $120. And a beetle /25 for $300.

I don't know who these people are but people are buying the singles as well as the boxes. Even listing Bowman baseball singles on release day I didnt get offers that quick.

I don’t think anyone is questioning that this is happening.

They are questioning why.

[crdbored]

Originally Posted by Spinz

All I’m going to say is I understand release strategy, I understand the target market, and I understand what Gary and Rubes are tryna do. But the fact that they made it damn near impossible to get ahold of without having the money for a VeeFriends NFT helps no one

This is a tactic to ensure the product "sells out" and creates FOMO for all the fanatics live and whatnot bois.

I've heard they tried to keep this print run on the lower side and the following editions will get bigger and bigger print runs.
This first year product "scarcity" just means the following editions will "sellout" because FOMO.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by Chrominator

I only started this thread bc I thought it was funny

Now you see how the most innocent of intentions spiral out of control.

[premium1981]

HALF case break running right now on whatnot. Total bids tally to $5,733. Holy freaking cow that is crazy. $11k case equivalent. Daaaaang. Breakers are making so much money. No wonder so many people do it.

[CicadaMound]

In interviews Gary claims he wanted a higher print run but Topps vetoed that. If base Chrome is like this, the even shorter printed Sapphire is going to be nuts.

[PumpnDumpling]

Gary gives off all kinds of 10X pdf vibes - Bookmark it

When the Docuseries on your fav streaming plat debuts he'll make the toybox killer look like Mrs Doubtfire

[fabiani12333]

For those who believe or claim to believe in this product -- what is your best sales pitch for it? That Gary has loyal followers who will buy what he tells them to buy?

The truth is, yes, Gary and Topps probably won't let this product fail, even if it's dog crap. Gary is an influencer who's brand is based around being able to move markets. If this product fails, it reflects poorly on him. If the product succeeds, it could help bolster his image.

So those people who bought at release know it's rigged and will only go up in price, and therefore are guaranteed a return on their investment.

Like I said -- products like these expose how much manipulation there is in the hobby.

[Tim]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

For those who believe or claim to believe in this product -- what is your best sales pitch for it?

The truth is, yes, Gary and Topps probably won't let this product fail.

You know you just answered your own question, right?

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by Tim

You know you just answered your own question, right?

Yeah, that was my point. The sales pitch wouldn't be based around the product itself -- because it's transparently crap and we all know it -- but the rigging and market manipulation.

And no, it's not Pokemon 2.0 -- that is such a shallow comparison. Pokemon is a TCG that had a proving ground in Japan before coming to the US in conjunction with a popular animated show.

[Tim]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

Yeah, that was my point. The sales pitch wouldn't be based around the product itself -- because it's transparently crap and we all know it -- but the rigging and market manipulation.

And no, it's not Pokemon 2.0 -- that is such a shallow comparison. Pokemon is a TCG that had a proving ground in Japan before coming to the US in conjunction with a popular animated show.

I don't disagree with anything you are saying, but I'm a collector and an investor. Sometimes separately and sometimes, as with Disney chrome, simultaneously. I wouldn't touch this product as a collector, but as an investor, I have gotten to a different place.

[premium1981]

Originally Posted by Tim

I wouldn't touch this product as a collector, but as an investor, I have gotten to a different place.

This is the way. If something is obviously going to go up in price, why not buy a little and let it pay for something you really like? I know, someone will come in and have something to say about evil flippers, but that is capitalism. That is literally how our world runs. People will put money into stocks to hopefully pay for retirement. When half the country decided to take the "Elon is evil" approach and attack Tesla the stock plummeted to levels that were not normal. I don't care if people like him or not, but I saw an opportunity. I put money into Tesla stock and have made 30% returns since I did it. In approximately 1 month. Even the people who hate Elon could have done that. But they chose to just hate instead. Heres a tip, you can hate and still make money when the opportunity presents itself. This is why some people can never move up in the world. They choose to complain instead of do something. Separate what you like, and what is a good opportunity. Your finances will thank you.

And in summary, I still think VeeFriends is one of the stupidest things I have ever seen. But when you see case breaks bringing in $7,000 - $11,000 each it doesn't take a rocket scientist to come to a conclusion about demand. And its happening in multiple places at the same time by multiple breakers. Does anyone think box prices stay close to $400 if breakers are getting returns like above? And here is the good part, you can keep watching and see if demand falls off. If buy ins fall to $5,000-$6,000 per break then maybe the demand is softening. But that isn't happening right now. Rare cards are still selling for four figures, and there are multiple five figure bounties out there. There is nothing that says this will fail other than the people who just choose to not look at the facts. And I still remain steadfast in my opinion that the product will not be allowed to fail. And also, as a reminder, I though it would be nothing but a pump and dump to start. Data has changed my mind.

[premium1981]

Originally Posted by 49erRCCollector

I don’t think anyone is questioning that this is happening.

They are questioning why.

A youtube video was upload yesterday of him making his rounds and this is the top comment:

"So happy Daily Vee is back! Feels like everything is finally starting to get back to normal & I mean me. Veefriends is a community I never knew I needed so this means a lot to me a collector/buyer of all things. Veefriends is taking over the 🌎 🐱"

He has an entire army that has bought into his schtick. The craziest part to me is how he keeps saying over and over that he is doing this for kids and families. But he has one of the foulest mouths I have ever heard. F bombs 3 times in some sentences. There is nothing kid friendly about him. But his circle of influence is strong. They soak it up.

[maneonemo]

Originally Posted by premium1981

I don't care if people like him or not, but I saw an opportunity. I put money into Tesla stock and have made 30% returns since I did it.

It doesn't count if you announce it after the fact after you saw the outcome play out. All the paper excel traders on youtube do what you just did, shout to the rooftops about how much they made after the fact cherry picking data that makes them look good.

Originally Posted by premium1981

But when you see case breaks bringing in $7,000 - $11,000 each it doesn't take a rocket scientist to come to a conclusion about demand.

You are looking at the left side of the chart, the past. It's of little interest, tell us about the future before waiting for it to see it play out.

Originally Posted by premium1981

Does anyone think box prices stay close to $400 if breakers are getting returns like above?

There is no way for me to short boxes and singles. Why shouldn't the singles go down bigly long term?

Originally Posted by premium1981

and there are multiple five figure bounties out there

And what legal guarantee do I have that I'll be able to get paid from such a bounty?

Originally Posted by premium1981

There is nothing that says this will fail other than the people who just choose to not look at the facts.

Similar things were said by LUNA, stamps (as in stamp collectors), coins fanboys. Or if we need to look closer to home, look at performance of pretty much nearly all singles from non-sport releases of the last couple of years. Wasn't the hype for Topps Marvel Chrome even bigger? Where are the boxes now compared to shortly after the release? How much did the biggest chase of the product - Frank Miller sketches sell for? Measly 1k for an Elektra sketch, compared to ~$700 boxes on release.

Originally Posted by premium1981

A youtube video was upload yesterday

Originally Posted by premium1981

He has an entire army that has bought into his schtick.

Dude has 4.6M youtube followers and his last cards videos only pulled 17k and 29k views. Some army that is.

[Chrominator]

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

Like I said -- products like these expose how much manipulation there is in the hobby.

So, so true. I can see the sports crowd is going hard on this. Level of manipulation off the charts.

[Bob Ross]

Originally Posted by Bob Ross

Where was the case link? I didn't see it at all. WTF.

Hit boxes on 2 separate accounts. That can't be a good sign.

Fun to look back on my post on page 2.

[Tim]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

So, so true. I can see the sports crowd is going hard on this. Level of manipulation off the charts.

Lol, you haven't learned i see from your similar Disney chrome falsehoods.

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by Tim

Lol, you haven't learned i see from your similar Disney chrome falsehoods.

Usual suspects in here to jump onto any chrome release to make a buck…everything checking out as expected. And no- the manipulation in sports with Disney Chrome isn’t false.

Fabiani you are right on with your posts- some people just don’t call ducks ducks though

[Chrominator]

Anyone here open any of this yet?


Would love to start seeing some pics but no larger than 640px wide pls

[premium1981]

Originally Posted by maneonemo

It doesn't count if you announce it after the fact after you saw the outcome play out. All the paper excel traders on youtube do what you just did, shout to the rooftops about how much they made after the fact cherry picking data that makes them look good.

Way too much to respond to point by point, because it isn't worth the hassle. But just to hit the first two points before moving on. I did "announce" the trade ahead of time. I said it in one of the baseball threads where someone was complaining about something and said there has to be easier ways to make money. Tesla was rock bottom and I said it was about as easy of a slam dunk as any stock purchase ever made. Because the deflated price had nothing to do with anything other than raw emotions. The Elon hatred arrived quickly after and it turned political so everything go deleted by the mods. I don't think that I have ever made a declaration of something being a good place to put money without doing it myself.

Originally Posted by maneonemo

You are looking at the left side of the chart, the past. It's of little interest, tell us about the future before waiting for it to see it play out.

You can't do that here. Then all you hear are the people claiming you are pumping it to the moon. A couple of years ago I would make actual dollar predictions but quickly learned how that played out. The responses got really old and I stopped because it wasn't worth it. The second thing that happens is market followers when someone has a track record of being correct. All of us are wrong from time to time, but I have a very solid track record of picking the correct products that have demand and go up in value. So good actually, that I have watched members here run to make the same play which hurt my buying. So put those two together and I just stopped. Now I give a little insight here and there but it is almost never with specifics for that reason.

The rest of your comments are just mouth diarrhea. Pretty much all singles of everything go down over time with very few exceptions. That has almost zero to do with sealed product value.