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Old 05-09-2025, 01:04 PM   #26
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Like everyone I can't wait to add some black parallels to the collection form 2025 Topps and crazy to know both series 1 & 2 will be coming out same time.

Also what do you think the print runs are for the Sandglitter & the Topps foil for some reason I like them
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Old 05-09-2025, 01:25 PM   #27
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Did everyone hear while the Black parallels are back, they are exclusively in the Fanatics Fest boxes...
Lol...That was the play, Mike Rubin?
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Old 05-09-2025, 01:33 PM   #28
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Did everyone hear while the Black parallels are back, they are exclusively in the Fanatics Fest boxes...
Is this true? This would impact my preorder if so
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Old 05-09-2025, 01:38 PM   #29
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Is this true? This would impact my preorder if so
It would be no surprise at all!

Maybe ask Stryker on YouTube?!
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Old 05-09-2025, 01:54 PM   #30
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Is this true? This would impact my preorder if so
As far as I know, nothing has been announced about how blacks will be allocated in the product. They were always a hobby / hobby jumbo only parallel - I really don't see this distribution being any different.
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Old 05-09-2025, 02:02 PM   #31
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Like everyone I can't wait to add some black parallels to the collection form 2025 Topps and crazy to know both series 1 & 2 will be coming out same time.

Also what do you think the print runs are for the Sandglitter & the Topps foil for some reason I like them
PR for Sandglitter in series 1 was ~575 so hopefully around the same for S2.
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Old 05-09-2025, 11:51 PM   #32
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PR for Sandglitter in series 1 was ~575 so hopefully around the same for S2.
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Old 05-10-2025, 07:59 AM   #33
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Rookie question but is it standard to have pre orders open up without a checklist released or exclusives in each format? Specifically curious about what was said regarding the black parallels above.
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Old 05-10-2025, 08:11 AM   #34
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Rookie question but is it standard to have pre orders open up without a checklist released or exclusives in each format? Specifically curious about what was said regarding the black parallels above.
Yes since post pandemic that has often been the case. Fanatics knows people are going to buy most products regardless so there is no need.
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Old 05-10-2025, 08:21 AM   #35
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As far as I know, nothing has been announced about how blacks will be allocated in the product. They were always a hobby / hobby jumbo only parallel - I really don't see this distribution being any different.
It wouldn't surprise me one bit if they were exclusive to Fanatics Blasters or Fanatics Fest boxes. If they number them /74 as last year was /73 that's 51,800 Black Parallel's between Ser 1 and 2. So many would get pulled that it would kill the value as people would be like well they come 8 to a hobby box (Obviously guessing here). So they would be wise to either distribute them evenly over the rest of the 2025 releases or make Series 1 exclusive in some way.
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Old 05-10-2025, 08:26 AM   #36
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Sandglitter? WTH has this hobby devolved into?
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Old 05-10-2025, 03:50 PM   #37
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It wouldn't surprise me one bit if they were exclusive to Fanatics Blasters or Fanatics Fest boxes. If they number them /74 as last year was /73 that's 51,800 Black Parallel's between Ser 1 and 2. So many would get pulled that it would kill the value as people would be like well they come 8 to a hobby box (Obviously guessing here). So they would be wise to either distribute them evenly over the rest of the 2025 releases or make Series 1 exclusive in some way.
Not even close on your guess for pull rate if production stays similar to last year.

200k Hobby and Jumbo boxes last year. So if 52k Blacks, maybe like 3 per hobby case?
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Old 05-10-2025, 09:22 PM   #38
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It wouldn't surprise me one bit if they were exclusive to Fanatics Blasters or Fanatics Fest boxes. If they number them /74 as last year was /73 that's 51,800 Black Parallel's between Ser 1 and 2. So many would get pulled that it would kill the value as people would be like well they come 8 to a hobby box (Obviously guessing here). So they would be wise to either distribute them evenly over the rest of the 2025 releases or make Series 1 exclusive in some way.
They would be double what they normally are......
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Old 05-11-2025, 06:54 AM   #39
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What do you think will be price on Topps.com for the Hobby and Jumbo cases?
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Old 05-11-2025, 09:08 AM   #40
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What do you think will be price on Topps.com for the Hobby and Jumbo cases?
Series 1 Jumbo cases were $1080 a case and Hobby was around the same price. I'm guessing they will be in that price range for Series 2.
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Old 05-12-2025, 05:32 AM   #41
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Without a checklist and odds, its a questionable buy. Topps really needs to put out checklists and odds as soon as they announce preorders.
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Old 05-12-2025, 08:16 AM   #42
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Without a checklist and odds, its a questionable buy. Topps really needs to put out checklists and odds as soon as they announce preorders.
But they won’t because that could negatively impact their ability to sell. New products are guaranteed sell-outs with zero information released. Why would they ever want to jeopardize the success of their genius marketing model by releasing information that their largest group of buyers couldn’t care less about?
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Old 05-12-2025, 09:23 AM   #43
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Sho on the cover.

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Old 05-12-2025, 09:37 AM   #44
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Without a checklist and odds, its a questionable buy. Topps really needs to put out checklists and odds as soon as they announce preorders.
These have been on Topps.com for several days.

Checklist

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Old 05-12-2025, 09:39 AM   #45
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These have been on Topps.com for several days.

Checklist

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That is the 2024 checklist
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Old 05-12-2025, 09:39 AM   #46
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These have been on Topps.com for several days.

Checklist

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that's 2024's checklist
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These have been on Topps.com for several days.

Checklist

Odds

The links were on the the 2025 Series 2 Pre Order page. Now the links are gone. Topps must have realized their mistake.
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that's 2024's checklist
The links were on the the 2025 Series 2 Pre Order page. Now the links are gone. Topps must have realized their mistake.
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Old 05-12-2025, 10:17 AM   #49
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I would definitely be more inclined to buy a pre-sell if I knew who was on the checklist. I guess there are people who buy this produce, sight unseen, because they simply want to get the best price (saving $10 maybe?) and because they don't know how weak it might be.

Generally, I don't think Topps really gains that much by keeping the odds and checklist a secret for fear of depressing demand. Not releasing the list only creates the perception that they are hiding something.
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Old 05-12-2025, 10:25 AM   #50
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with wax addiction at an all time high, i think this will presell just fine w/o a checklist
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