2025 Topps Heritage...

[Rooftop]

Topps screwed the pooch by not making Johnny Bench's iconic 76 card an auto..

[MotorboatJones]

Originally Posted by mikejones

And back in stock after it supposedly sold out during Pre-sale for 119.99. Lol.

They often do presales at a lower price ($109.99 in this case), followed by more being available on release day at a higher price ($119.99 today). This is nothing new at all. They make a more limited amount available during presale at the lower price and hold some back for release day.

[parkerj33]

I have cracked boxes of every type on this so far. Some info to share:

1. Relics ARE numbered if they are gold. Dual relics are NOT numbered unless they are GOLD duals.

2. Some hangers have sps 1:1. (SE version). the EA version is 1:2. I only opened SE version. the EA versions are the ones that have the price on the front and likely are sold in target/walmart etc.

3. All hobby cases i have opened have sps 1:3. Blasters and megas have sps 1:4. fats are 1:3.

4. regular chrome and refractor chrome are NOT numbered. I personally welcome this as it frees them up to include a lot more - which they did - in all formats!

5. all colored chrome are numbered. Sadly, purples are gone.

6. the per-format chrome (sparkle colors) are NOT numbered. Again, this frees them up to seed them pretty heavily.

7. the color border cards for each format are also NOT numbered. But i would assume that the hobby blacks are still /50. The hobby blue are plentiful and unnumbered.

8. holographic foil flavors of all ineserts is a nice touch.

9. I personally really enjoy all the changes they made, a lot of nice stuff opening these packs. And for me its great they have something unique in each retail flavor, but i am admittedly biased.

10. Hobby autos are rare... i think i only got 2 and 3 from each of the 2 cases i have opened so far.....but i may have not kept track well.

11. the buybacks are still included they are just inserted into packs...not as a box topper.

12. Insert sets are going to be RARE. but i like the new inserts much better for a change of pace.

13. Every pack has something besides base....dead packs are hopefully a thing of the past.

14. I don't have a huge sample size yet, but i have seen 2 autos in a blaster case....and at least one auto in each fat and hanger and mega case i opened.

[Cardsareus84]

The black border Heritage 25th anniversary looks identical to Topps Archives black border. I was watching Stryker open a hobby and I couldn't even tell the difference.

[bustsomewax]

Originally Posted by parkerj33

I have cracked boxes of every type on this so far. Some info to share:

1. Relics ARE numbered if they are gold. Dual relics are NOT numbered unless they are GOLD duals.

2. Some hangers have sps 1:1. (SE version). the EA version is 1:2. I only opened SE version. the EA versions are the ones that have the price on the front and likely are sold in target/walmart etc.

3. All hobby cases i have opened have sps 1:3. Blasters and megas have sps 1:4. fats are 1:3.

4. regular chrome and refractor chrome are NOT numbered. I personally welcome this as it frees them up to include a lot more - which they did - in all formats!

5. all colored chrome below blue is numbered. gone are purples.

6. the per-format chrome (sparkle colors) are NOT numbered. Again, this frees them up to seed them pretty heavily.

7. the color border cards for each format are also NOT numbered. But i would assume that the hobby blacks are still /50. The hobby blue are plentiful and unnumbered.

8. holographic foil flavors of all ineserts is a nice touch.

9. I personally really enjoy all the changes they made, a lot of nice stuff opening these packs. And for me its great they have something unique in each retail flavor, but i am admittedly biased.

10. Hobby autos are rare... i think i only got 2 and 3 from each of the 2 cases i have opened so far.....but i may have not kept track well.

11. the buybacks are still included they are just inserted into packs...not as a box topper.

How many SP sets will you make out of your hobby cases?

[parkerj33]

i don't know...its 96 sps in a hobby case. the real issue is that the inserts are very tough.

[kyle1707]

My cases arrive today. And I have not really paid any attention to inserts

But looks like master sets will be much more difficult to make ?

I like all the changes though to be honest. I was really getting bored last few years

So I’m up for it

[PDCCollectibles]

Originally Posted by Rooftop

Topps screwed the pooch by not making Johnny Bench's iconic 76 card an auto..

....and they could have done a remake with a current player depicting the Kurt Bevacqua Bubble Gum Blowing Champ card

[dodgerfanjohn]

Originally Posted by parkerj33

I have cracked boxes of every type on this so far. Some info to share:

Thank you for sharing this!

[bustsomewax]

Originally Posted by parkerj33

i don't know...its 96 sps in a hobby case. the real issue is that the inserts are very tough.

Yeah, you can kiss Master Sets goodbye. Takes a stupid amount of cases.

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by Rooftop

Topps screwed the pooch by not making Johnny Bench's iconic 76 card an auto..

Bench is on the auto checklist.....

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by Rooftop

Topps screwed the pooch by not making Johnny Bench's iconic 76 card an auto..

Originally Posted by PDCCollectibles

....and they could have done a remake with a current player depicting the Kurt Bevacqua Bubble Gum Blowing Champ card

you guys think that the fanatics employees know what you are talking about?

[Cardsareus84]

Originally Posted by Rooftop

Topps screwed the pooch by not making Johnny Bench's iconic 76 card an auto..

The one where there is like 15 or something PSA 10s?

[mfw13]

So....my mega case arrived a half an hour ago and I've opened the first box.

What was a bit strange was that although I received my expected quantity of "hits", they were NOT one per pack. I had several "dead" packs, with no hits, and several packs with two "hits". And all the packs with two hits had nine cards total, instead of eight.

[bustsomewax]

Looking at the odds, it seems like Blasters might be a decent way to go for the price?

2 Autos per case is on par with a Hobby case in some cases.

[PDCCollectibles]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

you guys think that the fanatics employees know what you are talking about?

Thanks Fanatics!

[dodgerfanjohn]

Originally Posted by mfw13

So....my mega case arrived a half an hour ago and I've opened the first box.

What was a bit strange was that although I received my expected quantity of "hits", they were NOT one per pack. I had several "dead" packs, with no hits, and several packs with two "hits". And all the packs with two hits had nine cards total, instead of eight.

Been an issue of mispacks with Heritage since at least 2021.

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1458634

[glassnickels]

Opened my single hobby box from presale. Pulled a Cowser auto and Carroll relic. Also pulled Lindor orange chrome /25 and Mayo blue chrome /150. Seemed like a chrome and/or color border in nearly every pack. At least every pack without an sp i think.

Edit: 8 blue border, 8 light blue chrome, 6 chrome, 2 refractor, 2 color chrome, 1 buyback, 4 inserts, 1 auto, 1 relic. This seems like a lot. I'm used to 1 napkin relic, a bunch of inserts, and maybe a var. As a set builder this obviously makes that harder but don't think I mind

[DarcyWinston]

Originally Posted by glassnickels

Opened my single hobby box from presale. Pulled a Cowser auto and Carroll relic. Also pulled Lindor orange chrome /25 and Mayo blue chrome /150. Seemed like a chrome and/or color border in nearly every pack. At least every pack without an sp i think.

Edit: 8 blue border, 8 light blue chrome, 6 chrome, 2 refractor, 2 color chrome, 1 buyback, 4 inserts, 1 auto, 1 relic. This seems like a lot. I'm used to 1 napkin relic, a bunch of inserts, and maybe a var. As a set builder this obviously makes that harder but don't think I mind

My box was similar. Since purple hot boxes are now gone, I think blue hot boxes (8 base 8 sparkle) replaced them. But just a guess at this point.

[ZappBrannigan]

Originally Posted by parkerj33

I have cracked boxes of every type on this so far. Some info to share:

1. Relics ARE numbered if they are gold. Dual relics are NOT numbered unless they are GOLD duals.

2. Some hangers have sps 1:1. (SE version). the EA version is 1:2. I only opened SE version. the EA versions are the ones that have the price on the front and likely are sold in target/walmart etc.

3. All hobby cases i have opened have sps 1:3. Blasters and megas have sps 1:4. fats are 1:3.

4. regular chrome and refractor chrome are NOT numbered. I personally welcome this as it frees them up to include a lot more - which they did - in all formats!

5. all colored chrome are numbered. Sadly, purples are gone.

6. the per-format chrome (sparkle colors) are NOT numbered. Again, this frees them up to seed them pretty heavily.

7. the color border cards for each format are also NOT numbered. But i would assume that the hobby blacks are still /50. The hobby blue are plentiful and unnumbered.

8. holographic foil flavors of all ineserts is a nice touch.

9. I personally really enjoy all the changes they made, a lot of nice stuff opening these packs. And for me its great they have something unique in each retail flavor, but i am admittedly biased.

10. Hobby autos are rare... i think i only got 2 and 3 from each of the 2 cases i have opened so far.....but i may have not kept track well.

11. the buybacks are still included they are just inserted into packs...not as a box topper.

12. Insert sets are going to be RARE. but i like the new inserts much better for a change of pace.

13. Every pack has something besides base....dead packs are hopefully a thing of the past.

14. I don't have a huge sample size yet, but i have seen 2 autos in a blaster case....and at least one auto in each fat and hanger and mega case i opened.

So its still 98% worthless?

[ethan2430]

Heritage has always been my favorite box to open each year. Priced well and very collectible. Was blown away when I saw the price jump with '24 Update but figured it was coming with Fanatics [did well though, pulled a B&W Skenes out of a blaster]. Got two boxes of '25 Heritage for about $125/box. Opened the first box and REALLY enjoyed it [granted I pulled a "monster" of an auto] but I really like the variation so far [noticed this with '24 update as well]. Every pack had something and the quality of the cards seemed better. Here are the results:

7 dark blue, 8 blue sparkle chrome, 6 chrome, 2 chrome refractor, 1 black chrome /76, 4 inserts [1 being a through the years foil], 1 bicentennial /200 and the biggie - Jackson Jobe Gold Chrome Auto /50 (1:11,521)

Hopefully box 2 is half as good lol

Question [apologies if this has already been addressed] - is there a quick way to spot variations like in the past? Code difference on the bottom/written on the back where you need a magnifying glass to read it?

[bd3d86]

Got my case in from Topps. First pack….superfractor. I haven’t looked at the card yet since I’m saving it for my boys after the baseball game. Hopefully a big one and I’ll update tonight.

[Picklepete]

Ok... I have a question.
I have CRVO ( CENTRAL RETINAL VEIN OCCLUSION) in my left eye.
Basically the vain leading to the eyeball burst, so now my vision is all blurry in my left eye.
So with all the recent releases in today's baseball card market that has image variations color swaps etc etc is there any site that gives visual samples of card variations and where to look for the coding or whatever ?
It's very hard for me to read even with a magnifying glass, the back's on some of these gray cardboard stock cards.
Does anybody list picture samples of variations ?
Thx.

[NYRE2PECT]

Originally Posted by Picklepete

Ok... I have a question.
I have CRVO ( CENTRAL RETINAL VEIN OCCLUSION) in my left eye.
Basically the vain leading to the eyeball burst, so now my vision is all blurry in my left eye.
So with all the recent releases in today's baseball card market that has image variations color swaps etc etc is there any site that gives visual samples of card variations and where to look for the coding or whatever ?
It's very hard for me to read even with a magnifying glass, the back's on some of these gray cardboard stock cards.
Does anybody list picture samples of variations ?
Thx.

Pete, that sounds awful.

I have two perfectly decent eyeballs (with glasses) and I have a hard time telling the difference with Heritage. To me, it is one of the more complicated releases out there.

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by Picklepete

Ok... I have a question.
I have CRVO ( CENTRAL RETINAL VEIN OCCLUSION) in my left eye.
Basically the vain leading to the eyeball burst, so now my vision is all blurry in my left eye.
So with all the recent releases in today's baseball card market that has image variations color swaps etc etc is there any site that gives visual samples of card variations and where to look for the coding or whatever ?
It's very hard for me to read even with a magnifying glass, the back's on some of these gray cardboard stock cards.
Does anybody list picture samples of variations ?
Thx.

Beckett sometimes does....Cardboard Connection used to.