2025 Topps Heritage... - Page 9

GoGoSox60 · 04-21-2025, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jblaw1

What is the 1955 Topps Bobby Witt card supposed to be?

Saluting every year of Topps. I’m assuming starting 1952.

mikejones · 04-21-2025, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mfw13

So neither the Chromes or Chrome Refractors are numbered......makes you wonder how huge the print run will be..

Fanatics following their formula of making products more attractive to breakers by loading them with tons of low-value so-called "hits".

Combine the fact that the Chromes are now a 500-card set instead of the traditional 100-card set, along with the fact that they are now unnumbered, and you've pretty much killed the market for them.

So the superfractor won't be stamped 1/1. If so, this is the dumbest thing topps has done.

Edit: looks like blacks and lower are numbered. I see a judge orange to /25.

Edit: looks like relics aren't numbered too.

MotorboatJones · 04-21-2025, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mfw13

1975 is an iconic design, but 1976 is fairly popular as well due to how colorful the design is.

But Fanatics has screwed the 2025 Heritage release up on so many levels....

1) Falling so far behind schedule that 2024 HHN gets released less than a month before 2025 Heritage

2) Majorly revamping the inserts by replacing NAP, Then & Now, and Flashbacks

3) Changing the SP odds from 1:3 to 1:4, making it all that much harder and more expensive for collectors to complete their sets

4) Getting rid of boxtoppers (which added about $100 in value to hobby cases)

5) Getting rid of throwbacks and minis

Frankly, I am glad they revamped the inserts. I’m honestly sick of Flashbacks, Then and Now and New Age Performers.

No Boxtopper is kinda sad, but they have inserted Stamped buybacks randomly into packs, so that’s kinda cool.

MotorboatJones · 04-21-2025, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mikejones

So the superfractor won't be stamped 1/1. If so, this is the dumbest thing topps has done.

Edit: looks like blacks and lower are numbered. I see a judge orange to /25.

Edit: looks like relics aren't numbered too.

Only the Chrome base and the Chrome refractors are not numbered. Lower print run stuff is all numbered for Chrome, including blue chrome /150.

Relics have generally never been numbered. They have made some gold relics that were hand numbered /99, but generally no number on a relic is standard.

Skipscards · 04-22-2025, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by mfw13

1975 is an iconic design, but 1976 is fairly popular as well due to how colorful the design is.

But Fanatics has screwed the 2025 Heritage release up on so many levels....

1) Falling so far behind schedule that 2024 HHN gets released less than a month before 2025 Heritage

2) Majorly revamping the inserts by replacing NAP, Then & Now, and Flashbacks

3) Changing the SP odds from 1:3 to 1:4, making it all that much harder and more expensive for collectors to complete their sets

4) Getting rid of boxtoppers (which added about $100 in value to hobby cases)

5) Getting rid of throwbacks and minis

Sorry, I didn’t mean 75 vs 76 I meant how well they executed low number and mini specifically vs 2025. Everything you listed here.

DarcyWinston · 04-22-2025, 06:31 AM

If you’re going to completely revamp the product, jack up the price, and remove a lot of things people collect, why keep the clubhouse collection relics? That’s probably the least popular box “hit” of any product. Make relics desirable again.

MotorboatJones · 04-22-2025, 07:34 AM

Bat Flip variations refer to the bat on the back of the card that has the number inside a baseball attached to it being flipped over on the back so that the number is located at the bottom left of the back of the card rather than on the top left as on regular cards.

auctionjmm · 04-22-2025, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by 13CardinalsFan

This is not a true statement. I checked 3 breakers and 2 of the 3 are not shipping all cards.

I looked at the first 10 or so breakers under "Best Match" and all were shipping base so if you found two deeper in the search results then I'd say stay away from those 2 because most are shipping them.

Americards · 04-22-2025, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by auctionjmm

I looked at the first 10 or so breakers under "Best Match" and all were shipping base so if you found two deeper in the search results then I'd say stay away from those 2 because most are shipping them.

They seem to be shipping base more in this product than in previous products...
These guys are not selling paper base for 25 Heritage (yet)
Doesn't seem they are selling multiple case breaks of 25 Heritage

Here is what they sold in the last 90 days
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_dkr...&LH_Complete=1

PoPCulture · 04-22-2025, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Americards

They seem to be shipping base more in this product than in previous products...
These guys are not selling paper base for 25 Heritage (yet)
Doesn't seem they are selling multiple case breaks of 25 Heritage

Here is what they sold in the last 90 days
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_dkr...&LH_Complete=1

Yeah, that company always ships paper base to the player or team spot if the break is under 5 cases (3-case breaks seem to be their sweet spot).

For Any player break of 5-cases or more, they will sell paper base in 5-Case lots.

mfw13 · 04-22-2025, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MotorboatJones

No Boxtopper is kinda sad, but they have inserted Stamped buybacks randomly into packs, so that’s kinda cool.

The thing I loved about the boxtoppers was that they used a different image of the HOFers than in their original card....for example, last year's Low Number Brett & Ryan boxtoppers have far better images than their original 1975 cards.

13CardinalsFan · 04-22-2025, 04:45 PM

I have opened 3 hobby boxes and all 3 had 8 short prints per box. Looks like odds are wrong.

MotorboatJones · 04-22-2025, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 13CardinalsFan

I have opened 3 hobby boxes and all 3 had 8 short prints per box. Looks like odds are wrong.

Niiiiice !

mfw13 · 04-22-2025, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 13CardinalsFan

I have opened 3 hobby boxes and all 3 had 8 short prints per box. Looks like odds are wrong.

Can anybody else verify?

13CardinalsFan · 04-22-2025, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mfw13

Can anybody else verify?

I watched other people opening that had 8 also. Just thought I would relay the information.

I guess you just enjoy being a jerk.

WillBBC · 04-22-2025, 07:46 PM

I love the black refractors as always but man they are making Heritage feel much more like Archives, can’t stand what Fanatics is doing but whatever

ScooterD · 04-22-2025, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by WillBBC

I love the black refractors as always but man they are making Heritage feel much more like Archives, can’t stand what Fanatics is doing but whatever

Any opinions on the QC of the card conditions?

13CardinalsFan · 04-22-2025, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ScooterD

Any opinions on the QC of the card conditions?

Centering is all over the place on the base and the chrome. Also ragged edges on some of the base. QC is poor in my opinion

mfw13 · 04-22-2025, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 13CardinalsFan

I watched other people opening that had 8 also. Just thought I would relay the information.

I guess you just enjoy being a jerk.

????

I wasn't questioning you.....I was trying to figure out whether your boxes were an outlier (since Fanatics has had many documented screw-ups in their packing out process) by asking if anybody else had also received 8 SP's per box.

No need to call me a jerk for asking a reasonable question....

Rooftop · 04-22-2025, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 13CardinalsFan

I watched other people opening that had 8 also. Just thought I would relay the information.

I guess you just enjoy being a jerk.

D bag

mfw13 · 04-23-2025, 09:58 AM

Happy release day everyone!

It should be noted that according to both anecdotal evidence and a trusted source, the SP odds posted on Topps website are incorrect.....hobby SP's are 1:3, not 1:4, and hangers are 1:1, not 1:2.

Mightymango · 04-23-2025, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by mfw13

Happy release day everyone!

It should be noted that according to both anecdotal evidence and a trusted source, the SP odds posted on Topps website are incorrect.....hobby SP's are 1:3, not 1:4, and hangers are 1:1, not 1:2.

That is great news. Looking forward to ripping into mine when I get home today.

akabruno · 04-23-2025, 11:01 AM

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mikejones · 04-23-2025, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by mfw13

Happy release day everyone!

It should be noted that according to both anecdotal evidence and a trusted source, the SP odds posted on Topps website are incorrect.....hobby SP's are 1:3, not 1:4, and hangers are 1:1, not 1:2.

And back in stock after it supposedly sold out during Pre-sale for 119.99. Lol.

Rooftop · 04-23-2025, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by mikejones

And back in stock after it supposedly sold out during Pre-sale for 119.99. Lol.

Shocking..

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DarcyWinston Member Join Date: Feb 2023 Location: Lone star state Posts: 413	If you’re going to completely revamp the product, jack up the price, and remove a lot of things people collect, why keep the clubhouse collection relics? That’s probably the least popular box “hit” of any product. Make relics desirable again.

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MotorboatJones Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 3,854	Bat Flip variations refer to the bat on the back of the card that has the number inside a baseball attached to it being flipped over on the back so that the number is located at the bottom left of the back of the card rather than on the top left as on regular cards.

04-22-2025, 04:45 PM	#212
13CardinalsFan Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 2,576	I have opened 3 hobby boxes and all 3 had 8 short prints per box. Looks like odds are wrong.

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WillBBC Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 3,286	I love the black refractors as always but man they are making Heritage feel much more like Archives, can’t stand what Fanatics is doing but whatever

04-23-2025, 09:58 AM	#221
mfw13 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 17,557	Happy release day everyone! It should be noted that according to both anecdotal evidence and a trusted source, the SP odds posted on Topps website are incorrect.....hobby SP's are 1:3, not 1:4, and hangers are 1:1, not 1:2.