2025 Topps Heritage...

[dinkleberg]

Originally Posted by nick7777

much of the 1990s was pretty bad design-wise, with maybe just a few decent ones, and 1998-2000 were truly terrible!

Why would you pierce my heart with a dagger like this? How rude...

(I'm SO HAPPY that we're finally out of the 80s and into the years I held the most of!)

... As for 2025 release: I think it speaks volumes that sealed cases of Hobby AND Mega are still available for order today, and not Sold Out like every other product.

Glad that I snatched up a bunch of Topps Chrome Black instead, that should be a good rip. I'll save up for Chrome Platinum later this year instead.

[JoshMN]

Worth noting that according to the CPI Inflation Calculator, $89.00 in February 2020 has the same buying power as $109.78 in February 2025.

[rudan007]

The price goes up and now there is 8 cards per pack instead of 9. 24 less cards per box(1-2 less SPs per box). I agree that they should at least guarantee an auto in each box if they expect $110. Either they are trying to eliminate the poors from entering the hobby OR they know the addicts will pay the price regardless. 10x the hobby didn't mean amount of collectors

[RainCityShecks]

Originally Posted by rudan007

The price goes up and now there is 8 cards per pack instead of 9. 24 less cards per box(1-2 less SPs per box). I agree that they should at least guarantee an auto in each box if they expect $110. Either they are trying to eliminate the poors from entering the hobby OR they know the addicts will pay the price regardless. 10x the hobby didn't mean amount of collectors

I'm a poor and I'm still here!

Haha - Topps seems to have over-expected on this pre-sell. Good to see it still just sitting on the site!

[premium1981]

Originally Posted by RainCityShecks

I'm a poor and I'm still here!

Haha - Topps seems to have over-expected on this pre-sell. Good to see it still just sitting on the site!

They didn’t over expect anything. There is just a lot of available. Same thing happened with Series 1. They have a strangle hold on pricing and although it’s high, people will still buy. The products that sell out instantly are limited. This really isn’t.

[Skipscards]

Originally Posted by bustsomewax

A master set of this is going to be really hard to make and sell at a decent price. Usually I go this route to recoup value, but it looks like it would take way too much spent to make it worth it.

They'll be out there and for a lot cheaper than ripping myself.

[Skipscards]

Originally Posted by rudan007

The price goes up and now there is 8 cards per pack instead of 9. 24 less cards per box(1-2 less SPs per box). I agree that they should at least guarantee an auto in each box if they expect $110. Either they are trying to eliminate the poors from entering the hobby OR they know the addicts will pay the price regardless. 10x the hobby didn't mean amount of collectors

They aren't trying to eliminate anyone because they don't care. They are just feeding Fanatics Live. 10x meant their bottom-line. This ain't a hobby to them.

[erock28]

Originally Posted by Skipscards

Good grief. Image variations are now 1:97 packs. 2024 was 1:65. Remember when they were one per box?

I do indeed - got one per box through 2017 and it has dwindled since then. I will say, whether good or bad, they have included image variations in retail for the first time. That explains the drop in hobby odds to ~3 per case. Doesn't look like hobby production is much different from 2024. Also makes retail that much more appealing relative to hobby.

[jduds]

Originally Posted by cruiserdaddy7

Flagship hobby was insanely produced and that dried up quickly and has risen. This likely will head in the same direction. I know they are different animals, but the game has changed.

That's standard for Series 1. Recent Heritage releases have been seeing large discounts a few months after release, and they have been doing so even after the game has changed. Products need breakers to prop prices up, and they stay away from Heritage. There's little reason to think this will rise in price unless a must-have rookie emerges. Even that will likely only suffice to keep box prices steady.

[mgugs46]

Other than Roki, what other solid RC are in this? Wood? Crews?

[brentandbecca]

Originally Posted by Skipscards

They'll be out there and for a lot cheaper than ripping myself.

I don't know. A Master set with sp and inserts will take 5 cases IF perfect collation.



The fact that the costs is higher than before; 1 less card per pack; sp now 1:4; inserts now 25+ cards per set and they don't even fall 1 per box; no box toppers; no mention of hot box chromes; a huge auto checklist & back to "usual" tougher odds"; chrome for every card & so many parallels

...I may skip busting heritage in qty for the first time since 2001



People have always said Heritage was boring and not much in it (I still love it), and sure on a box level, not much, but it's about the set....yet now, there seems there will be even less unless you want chrome.

With SP and inserts more scarce they instead just added more chrome, which most traditional Heritage collectors don't want and if they do, that is 1 tough set to build

IF hot boxes are gone, then you are not really getting that much more chrome per case and with a watered down checklist

However, it still looks nice, and I'm sure it'll do well.

[MotorboatJones]

Last year preorder price for 2024 Heritage on Topps was $94.99.
This year it’s at $109.99. I mean, I wish it were lower, but it’s not surprising. And it’s not that crazy of an increase in my opinion. The price of everything is higher. I enjoy opening Heritage, so I bought a few boxes. Do people honestly expect the price to be the same as last year ? I didn’t. It’s about what I figured it would be.

[MotorboatJones]

Originally Posted by premium1981

They didn’t over expect anything. There is just a lot of available. Same thing happened with Series 1. They have a strangle hold on pricing and although it’s high, people will still buy. The products that sell out instantly are limited. This really isn’t.

Exactly

[brentandbecca]

Originally Posted by MotorboatJones

Last year preorder price for 2024 Heritage on Topps was $94.99.
This year it’s at $109.99. I mean, I wish it were lower, but it’s not surprising. And it’s not that crazy of an increase in my opinion. The price of everything is higher. I enjoy opening Heritage, so I bought a few boxes. Do people honestly expect the price to be the same as last year ? I didn’t. It’s about what I figured it would be.

No, but to also have less cards per box is a double-edge sword.
Not to mention tougher odds to make a set with sp or master set.
Tough for many to swallow the much added cost if building a set.

[Skipscards]

Originally Posted by brentandbecca

I don't know. A Master set with sp and inserts will take 5 cases IF perfect collation.



The fact that the costs is higher than before; 1 less card per pack; sp now 1:4; inserts now 25+ cards per set and they don't even fall 1 per box; no box toppers; no mention of hot box chromes; a huge auto checklist & back to "usual" tougher odds"; chrome for every card & so many parallels

...I may skip busting heritage in qty for the first time since 2001



People have always said Heritage was boring and not much in it (I still love it), and sure on a box level, not much, but it's about the set....yet now, there seems there will be even less unless you want chrome.

With SP and inserts more scarce they instead just added more chrome, which most traditional Heritage collectors don't want and if they do, that is 1 tough set to build

IF hot boxes are gone, then you are not really getting that much more chrome per case and with a watered down checklist

However, it still looks nice, and I'm sure it'll do well.

Totally get it. And it’d be sad if you of all people didn’t bust a bunch. Also, I would be happy if they got rid of all the chrome or just went back to a very limited chrome. But that won’t happen because Fanatics is all about the breakers.

I still think buying a set will be a better option for me than busting a case or two like I used to do.

[Skipscards]

Originally Posted by brentandbecca

No, but to also have less cards per box is a double-edge sword.
Not to mention tougher odds to make a set with sp or master set.
Tough for many to swallow the much added cost if building a set.

Yeah, less cards per pack is annoying .

[MotorboatJones]

Originally Posted by brentandbecca

No, but to also have less cards per box is a double-edge sword.
Not to mention tougher odds to make a set with sp or master set.
Tough for many to swallow the much added cost if building a set.

Yes. I understand that completely and agree

[Americards]

Did they get rid of the Box Topper because it is harder for breakers to ship?




still available on Topps .com in all 4 formats

[Cracktoast]

Site crashes for Heritage High # and people bit*h then Site runs great for 2025 Heritage and people bit*h because it's still there the next day.

[rfgilles]

Originally Posted by Cardsandcoffee

Golds /5 was my favorite thing about Heritage beyond Red Inks. Why is Topps/Fanatics messing with things that nobody asked for? These things gave Heritage uniqueness and differentiation.

Probably for the same reason they removed black parallels from Series 1, incompetence from new folks. During the podcast announcing the return of blacks to Series 2, the Topps/Fanatics bigwig wasn't even aware that Golds were traditionally /5 in Heritage. He mentioned they would "stay the same at /50".

[RainCityShecks]

After breaking 2 hobbies of 2024 HHN with a much smaller checklist than this stuff I’ll be staying far far far away from this product.


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[Maverik]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

no worries, others will buy if you do not

This is such a stupid point and you keep making it over and over again.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by Maverik

This is such a stupid point and you keep making it over and over again.

because its true

[parkerj33]

Originally Posted by rudan007

Just haven't heard anything about it. I guess there is still chance, '23 was released in May of '24. Topps keeps getting later with their release so who knows.....

its not killed. it is expected in late summer/early fall. but nothing official.

[Ajax1723]

Heritage is my favorite product. Every year since 2008.

I'm skipping this year. It's sad. 2-3 autos per case at that many subjects, plus watered down chrome and no chance at a master set. Too many negatives to make it worth the entertainment. There will be some absolute bloodbath cases of this out there.