2025 Topps Heritage... - Page 3

msw1984 · 03-31-2025, 06:38 PM

Let's use an extreme hypothetical (going to make up odds and cards):

- Cut Auto of Abe Lincoln, 1:100,000 hobby packs.
- Cut Autos of Albert Einstein and Nikola Tesla, 1:50,000 hobby packs.

There is only one of each Cut Auto.

If you add 100,00+(50,000x2) = 200,000, then you've double counted.

Using 200,000 packs, you'd expect 2 Lincolns and 2 each of Einstein and Tesla.

mfw13 · 03-31-2025, 08:34 PM

Pre-sale tomorrow at 9am PST/12pm EST....gonna be very interesting to see where Topps prices these.

With the switch to SP's falling 1 every four packs instead of 1 every three packs, Mega cases and Blaster cases are now going to have more SP's than a hobby case.

Hobby Case = 72 SP's and 2.32 autos
Blaster Case = 80 SP's and 1.45 autos
Mega Case = 85 SP's (there are 17 packs/box this year instead of 15) and 2.25 autos

ThoseBackPages · 03-31-2025, 08:40 PM

this will sell well

Giancarlo27 · 03-31-2025, 11:27 PM

Making the chromes a full rainbow is absolutely sickening. Heritage gold chromes /5 are some of favorite cards in my collection. They were special because the rainbows were short, and the golds were so rare. Now they are just /50 like every other product and ruins the fun of chasing them

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queonda · 04-01-2025, 07:17 AM

I’ve only been back in cards a few years, but standardizing the parallel numbering across products bothers even me. Part of the fun was figuring everything out.

bub838 · 04-01-2025, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by queonda

I’ve only been back in cards a few years, but standardizing the parallel numbering across products bothers even me. Part of the fun was figuring everything out.

Not all breakers are smart enough to figure it out. They need it as simplified as possible.

jgolf1 · 04-01-2025, 08:20 AM

Assuming prices aren't outrageous, what's everyone going to try and get today for this release?

I'm thinking hobby to try to get the "good stuff" but also the possibility of more SP in the mega boxes has me thinking that way. My one hangup is that my LCS always has megas priced more reasonably than hobby if/when I want to fill in or rip for fun.

Bob Ross · 04-01-2025, 09:34 AM

Really cool how's there no price yet.

jduds · 04-01-2025, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jgolf1

Assuming prices aren't outrageous, what's everyone going to try and get today for this release?

I'm thinking hobby to try to get the "good stuff" but also the possibility of more SP in the mega boxes has me thinking that way. My one hangup is that my LCS always has megas priced more reasonably than hobby if/when I want to fill in or rip for fun.

Not a thing for now. With a less popular design and rookie class, I'd expect to be able to pick this up cheaper later.

erock28 · 04-01-2025, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jduds

Not a thing for now. With a less popular design and rookie class, I'd expect to be able to pick this up cheaper later.

This is the no brainer answer, unless it comes out reasonably priced. This should be a $1,000 case by November.

FatButcher · 04-01-2025, 10:22 AM

Definitely think the 24 HHN release timing was to try and create a bump for this. Given the checklist I think this will be much closer to usual with Heritage, except the changes to Chromes, etc. will turn off some of the set builders.

This will be cheap eventually and still won't be worth it.

cpa85 · 04-01-2025, 10:34 AM

Do we expect the noon ET preorder to be another disasterclass or not?

I grabbed a single box of Chrome Black yesterday without any issue whatsoever, but I also figure there's not quite the frenzy for that as there is for Heritage.

Picklepete · 04-01-2025, 10:43 AM

For the price we pay it should be 1 auto per hobby box !
Who the hell wants a relic of a white jersey that the player never even wore.

jbriskin05 · 04-01-2025, 10:45 AM

no price posted yet leads me to believe this going to relatively expensive to what heritage normally is...i hope i'm wrong but...

Skipscards · 04-01-2025, 10:56 AM

Good grief. Image variations are now 1:97 packs. 2024 was 1:65. Remember when they were one per box?

Cardsandcoffee · 04-01-2025, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giancarlo27

Making the chromes a full rainbow is absolutely sickening. Heritage gold chromes /5 are some of favorite cards in my collection. They were special because the rainbows were short, and the golds were so rare. Now they are just /50 like every other product and ruins the fun of chasing them

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Golds /5 was my favorite thing about Heritage beyond Red Inks. Why is Topps/Fanatics messing with things that nobody asked for? These things gave Heritage uniqueness and differentiation.

phil · 04-01-2025, 11:00 AM

$109.99 pass

Bob Ross · 04-01-2025, 11:00 AM

$109.99 lol. What on earth.

ThoseBackPages · 04-01-2025, 11:01 AM

cheap!

peelwonder · 04-01-2025, 11:01 AM

Terrible price with no guaranteed ink.

Ajax1723 · 04-01-2025, 11:01 AM

Weaker RC class, only 2-3 autos a case.....a very sad pass on my end at 110.

phil · 04-01-2025, 11:02 AM

Fanatics trying to cash in on HHN popularity as predicted.

ThoseBackPages · 04-01-2025, 11:02 AM

no worries, others will buy if you do not

cpa85 · 04-01-2025, 11:02 AM

Well that was easy. Got a hobby and two megas. Even had to run downstairs and grab a different credit card number (didn't want to use the one I had saved) and it didn't make me too late.

Skipscards · 04-01-2025, 11:03 AM

I picked up a box for the collection but will just buy a master set on the secondary market.

03-31-2025, 06:38 PM	#51
msw1984 Member Join Date: Sep 2024 Posts: 48	Let's use an extreme hypothetical (going to make up odds and cards): - Cut Auto of Abe Lincoln, 1:100,000 hobby packs. - Cut Autos of Albert Einstein and Nikola Tesla, 1:50,000 hobby packs. There is only one of each Cut Auto. If you add 100,00+(50,000x2) = 200,000, then you've double counted. Using 200,000 packs, you'd expect 2 Lincolns and 2 each of Einstein and Tesla. Last edited by msw1984; 03-31-2025 at 06:56 PM.

03-31-2025, 08:40 PM	#53
ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 89,484 ThoseBackPages	this will sell well __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

03-31-2025, 11:27 PM	#54
Giancarlo27 Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: NYC Posts: 11,169	Making the chromes a full rainbow is absolutely sickening. Heritage gold chromes /5 are some of favorite cards in my collection. They were special because the rainbows were short, and the golds were so rare. Now they are just /50 like every other product and ruins the fun of chasing them Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Collecting: Giancarlo Stanton, Sandy Koufax, Hideki Matsui, Topps Archives Autographs

04-01-2025, 10:56 AM	#65
Skipscards Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: In Tribute To The Great Ryno Posts: 29,978 jlankf2 jmp4	Good grief. Image variations are now 1:97 packs. 2024 was 1:65. Remember when they were one per box? __________________ Go Royals!! #RoyalsIn2015 <---It Happened!! #TEAMZinck Sometimes it is astounding that we are able to persist in a world so full of morons.

04-01-2025, 11:01 AM	#69
ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 89,484 ThoseBackPages	cheap! __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

03-31-2025, 08:34 PM	#52
mfw13 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 17,263	Pre-sale tomorrow at 9am PST/12pm EST....gonna be very interesting to see where Topps prices these. With the switch to SP's falling 1 every four packs instead of 1 every three packs, Mega cases and Blaster cases are now going to have more SP's than a hobby case. Hobby Case = 72 SP's and 2.32 autos Blaster Case = 80 SP's and 1.45 autos Mega Case = 85 SP's (there are 17 packs/box this year instead of 15) and 2.25 autos

04-01-2025, 07:17 AM	#55
queonda Member Join Date: Apr 2023 Posts: 132	I’ve only been back in cards a few years, but standardizing the parallel numbering across products bothers even me. Part of the fun was figuring everything out.

04-01-2025, 08:20 AM	#57
jgolf1 Member Join Date: Feb 2025 Posts: 13	Assuming prices aren't outrageous, what's everyone going to try and get today for this release? I'm thinking hobby to try to get the "good stuff" but also the possibility of more SP in the mega boxes has me thinking that way. My one hangup is that my LCS always has megas priced more reasonably than hobby if/when I want to fill in or rip for fun.

04-01-2025, 09:34 AM	#58
Bob Ross Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 5,021	Really cool how's there no price yet.

04-01-2025, 10:22 AM	#61
FatButcher Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Posts: 860	Definitely think the 24 HHN release timing was to try and create a bump for this. Given the checklist I think this will be much closer to usual with Heritage, except the changes to Chromes, etc. will turn off some of the set builders. This will be cheap eventually and still won't be worth it.

04-01-2025, 10:34 AM	#62
cpa85 Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 892 cpa712 cpa85	Do we expect the noon ET preorder to be another disasterclass or not? I grabbed a single box of Chrome Black yesterday without any issue whatsoever, but I also figure there's not quite the frenzy for that as there is for Heritage.

04-01-2025, 10:43 AM	#63
Picklepete Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: FL Posts: 157 picklepete picklepete	For the price we pay it should be 1 auto per hobby box ! Who the hell wants a relic of a white jersey that the player never even wore.

04-01-2025, 10:45 AM	#64
jbriskin05 Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Posts: 47 jbriskin05	no price posted yet leads me to believe this going to relatively expensive to what heritage normally is...i hope i'm wrong but...

04-01-2025, 11:00 AM	#67
phil Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 8,588	$109.99 pass

04-01-2025, 11:01 AM	#70
peelwonder Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 31	Terrible price with no guaranteed ink.

04-01-2025, 11:01 AM	#71
Ajax1723 Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mishawaka, IN Posts: 18,238 raiders_of_the_lost_arkanoid Ajax1723	Weaker RC class, only 2-3 autos a case.....a very sad pass on my end at 110.

04-01-2025, 11:02 AM	#72
phil Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 8,588	Fanatics trying to cash in on HHN popularity as predicted.

04-01-2025, 11:03 AM	#75
Skipscards Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: In Tribute To The Great Ryno Posts: 29,978 jlankf2 jmp4	I picked up a box for the collection but will just buy a master set on the secondary market. __________________ Go Royals!! #RoyalsIn2015 <---It Happened!! #TEAMZinck Sometimes it is astounding that we are able to persist in a world so full of morons.