Long-term Values for Home Field Advantage RCs

[Flkrsn5]

What is everyone’s thoughts on the long-term values? With the increased production in recent years, will HFA’s be the RCs to have given their “scarcity?” After of course, the lower numbered parallel base? Do you think they will be more sought after even over the lower numbered base? Will their popularity tank in the future? Looking to see what the BO community thinks…

[Cracktoast]

Regular HFA's are hardly scarce the HOF HFA is another story.

[hermanotarjeta]

Not a good long term hold imo.

[Flkrsn5]

Originally Posted by Cracktoast

Regular HFA's are hardly scarce the HOF HFA is another story.

Which are cool, but I’m wondering about RC values.

[MotorboatJones]

Just another insert in my opinion

[mikejones]

Idk. I like the 1994 upper deck home field advantage more.

[Archangel1775]

I cant think of any insert since the late 90s that are considered iconic in baseball. It's been all rookie cards since 2001. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Best stick to Bowman Chrome 1sts and mainstream rookie cards. I mean, the player is going to determine value but I dont ever see any insert outpacing the main ones.

[bub838]

They don't have scarcity- the Elly Home Field Advantage has a print run on 9k.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by bub838

They don't have scarcity- the Elly Home Field Advantage has a print run on 9k.

9k print run is plenty scarce to be a desired card. Heck, that's not much more than base bowman chrome autos. And those can carry massive value if a player turns out to be a superstar. Even a base card with a much higher print run than that can have a lot of value (think 2011 Trout). Now I'm not saying HFA are those, and I understand the factors that make those cards desirable, but the point is a 9k print run isn't too high when tens of thousands want something.

And while I'm not sure HFAs ever get to that popularity, I do think they have what it takes. Relatively scarce for a rookie (not scarce enough to rival low numbered stuff, but scarce enough to not be everywhere), they look great, they carry city ties that appeal to fans of the team, and they are condition sensitive, making PSA 10s that much more desirable.

I don't invest in cards, but I do try to pick up rookie year HFAs of my team's players because I like them.

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

I would advise against investing in any ultra modern cards, but if you have a money to set on fire and absolutely have to spend it on HFAs, look into the 2024 Chrome HFAs. Those had a much smaller print run.

[OhioLawyerF5]

This thread needs more cards.

[WillBBC]

They’ve become a bit of a pedigree insert at this point so they have that going for them. I’m personally not a huge fan as I find them quite gaudy but it’s nice to see that Topps actually landed an insert with some name recognition. Heavy Lumber and All Aces seem to be hits as well!

What I’m saying is…they’ll certainly hold value better than sets like Stars of MLB or Heritage Then and Now but their peaks are lower than the pedigree parallels.

[bub838]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

9k print run is plenty scarce to be a desired card. Heck, that's not much more than base bowman chrome autos. And those can carry massive value if a player turns out to be a superstar. Even a base card with a much higher print run than that can have a lot of value (think 2011 Trout). Now I'm not saying HFA are those, and I understand the factors that make those cards desirable, but the point is a 9k print run isn't too high when tens of thousands want something.

And while I'm not sure HFAs ever get to that popularity, I do think they have what it takes. Relatively scarce for a rookie (not scarce enough to rival low numbered stuff, but scarce enough to not be everywhere), they look great, they carry city ties that appeal to fans of the team, and they are condition sensitive, making PSA 10s that much more desirable.

I don't invest in cards, but I do try to pick up rookie year HFAs of my team's players because I like them.

I don't disagree with your premise that the card can still be desirable. OP asked if it could be come "the rc to have" and "more sought after than lower numbered base" and I don't believe it will be, because I don't believe it has the scarcity to do it.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by bub838

I don't disagree with your premise that the card can still be desirable. OP asked if it could be come "the rc to have" and "more sought after than lower numbered base" and I don't believe it will be, because I don't believe it has the scarcity to do it.

Yeah, I don't see them as ever being more sought after than low numbered base parallels. But definitely more sought after than base with a similar (and even much lower) print run. For example, a /999 blue foil Elly sells for less than a HFA, even though it has 1/10th the print run. That might not always be the case, but I think the possibility is there for the HFA to be a desired insert for the long term. And if they keep watering down parallels, eventually inserts without parallels could become more popular.

[ThoseBackPages]

they would have benefitted from serial numbering

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

they would have benefitted from serial numbering

Oh, please no!

Not everything needs to be serial numbered. We need more non-serial numbered inserts, not less.

And I think serial numbering would be the opposite of benefitting them. If they were numbered to 3000 or 9000, nobody would give them a second look.

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

they would have benefitted from serial numbering

I like that these are unnumbered and have no parallels/refractors. I don’t want that for all inserts, but we need least a few like this.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

Oh, please no!

Not everything needs to be serial numbered. We need more non-serial numbered inserts, not less.

And I think serial numbering would be the opposite of benefitting them. If they were numbered to 3000 or 9000, nobody would give them a second look.

Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

I like that these are unnumbered and have no parallels/refractors. I don’t want that for all inserts, but we need least a few like this.

i hear what you guys are saying.
its a double edged sword for sure.
there are thousands of these, and i feel that people think they are "limited" or the dreaded "rare" word. they are not.

Since they are not numbered its easy to "take their word for it" on how many there are out there. i get that we have the math nerds break it down, but thats
putting too much trust into what Fanatics says.

i am aware that numbering cards does not stop the shenanigans totally, but its the best deterrent we have.

[vwnut13]

Oh yes, imagine how valuable these would be if they were #/9,999.

[ThoseBackPages]

number them to 500 like they "say" the Heavy Lumber inserts are

[Twalk1975]

Serial numbering facilitates deciding which cards to invest in.

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

i hear what you guys are saying.
its a double edged sword for sure.
there are thousands of these, and i feel that people think they are "limited" or the dreaded "rare" word. they are not.

Since they are not numbered its easy to "take their word for it" on how many there are out there. i get that we have the math nerds break it down, but thats
putting too much trust into what Fanatics says.

i am aware that numbering cards does not stop the shenanigans totally, but its the best deterrent we have.

Originally Posted by vwnut13

Oh yes, imagine how valuable these would be if they were #/9,999.

I guess I don’t really care about their monetary value. Let the free market figure that out. What we do know is that foils are tricky to gem, and the Chromes have a print run of roughly 160 (there are currently no Chrome Chourios for sale on eBay and only one Chrome Caminero—I’m sure a bunch are at PSA now, so that will change). Let the market run with that info and people can figure out on their own how much they want to pay for these.

[eephuspitch]

When in doubt, wait.

[bub838]

If you want a shorter printed version, buy the HFA from Chrome Update. Fraction of the print run.

[Funkster]

The Chrome HFAs are really nice.


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