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Old 03-01-2025, 07:13 PM   #551
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Let's be real.

LeBron is 100% a counting stats padder.

Has been for years.

He's gotten a bolt of energy recently because he's been gifted one of the most talented players in the league. Again!

Only 2 weeks ago people on here were laughing at me for saying they need to let Luka have the ball and LeJuice play off him. Just wow.

I do think Lewhine hangs around long enough to get 1 more title. I doubt any amount of stat padding 4th quarters when the game is over (see the 2019 Finals when AD was the guy and Bron cucked him) will see him get a 5th Finals MVP though.

Luka aint putting up with that

The Lakers do need more though. Unless fully healthy.
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Old 03-01-2025, 07:24 PM   #552
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Let's be real.

LeBron is 100% a counting stats padder.

Has been for years.

He's gotten a bolt of energy recently because he's been gifted one of the most talented players in the league. Again!

Only 2 weeks ago people on here were laughing at me for saying they need to let Luka have the ball and LeJuice play off him. Just wow.

I do think Lewhine hangs around long enough to get 1 more title. I doubt any amount of stat padding 4th quarters when the game is over (see the 2019 Finals when AD was the guy and Bron cucked him) will see him get a 5th Finals MVP though.

Luka aint putting up with that

The Lakers do need more though. Unless fully healthy.
Yeah. 7-1 with no AD or Luka on floor. Stat padder. I guess what he’s doing does not equate to wins? Just chucking it on efficient numbers? 7-1 with no AD or Luka on the floor this year? And the 4th quarter stat padding like when they beat the Mavs just a couple nights ago?

This is the dumbest take I’ve ever seen. And legit is fueled by hate and zero logic or reason
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Old 03-01-2025, 07:25 PM   #553
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If he wins, he should be glad Luka came to save the Lakers.

Lebron can have his regular season accomplishments, because (again) “at the end of the day, it’s just basketball.”

I already told you I won’t blame Bron if they lose, because you shouldn’t blame Klay Thompson or Scottie Pippen.
This still doesn’t answer how he’s a “stat padder” when the team is 7-1 when Luka and AD don’t play..
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Old 03-01-2025, 08:16 PM   #554
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This still doesn’t answer how he’s a “stat padder” when the team is 7-1 when Luka and AD don’t play..
He’s a regular season juggernaut, we all know that.
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Old 03-01-2025, 08:21 PM   #555
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He’s a regular season juggernaut, we all know that.
He’s always efficient. So what defines a stat padder? I can name a lot more players who took more shots and are less efficient. Even when they win. Stat padders?
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Old 03-01-2025, 08:34 PM   #556
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Well, it’s clear you anti-LeBron guys have no real evidence of the whole “empty stats” argument.
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Old 03-01-2025, 08:56 PM   #557
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Well, it’s clear you anti-LeBron guys have no real evidence of the whole “empty stats” argument.
The only stat that matters is 4-6.
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Old 03-01-2025, 10:39 PM   #558
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The only stat that matters is 4-6.

Ah, classic. Can’t defend your claim so you deflect.
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Old 03-01-2025, 10:43 PM   #559
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Ah, classic. Can’t defend your claim so you deflect.
If you can’t win rings more times than you lose them, you fall back on your individual accomplishments.

We’ve seen that tactic from LeBron homers for decades.

It’s why I called him Mebron for such a long time - it’s exactly what he is.
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Old 03-01-2025, 11:05 PM   #560
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If you can’t win rings more times than you lose them, you fall back on your individual accomplishments.

We’ve seen that tactic from LeBron homers for decades.

It’s why I called him Mebron for such a long time - it’s exactly what he is.
He won. Period. 4. So the “me” argument doesn’t work either. Just like the stat padding one.

We’ve seen haters move goal posts for 2 decades.

Still no real response to stat padding. 7-1 without his second option on efficient numbers. At the age of 40.

This is all unprecedented and really it should be enjoyed.
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Old 03-01-2025, 11:15 PM   #561
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He won. Period. 4. So the “me” argument doesn’t work either. Just like the stat padding one.

We’ve seen haters move goal posts for 2 decades.

Still no real response to stat padding. 7-1 without his second option on efficient numbers. At the age of 40.

This is all unprecedented and really it should be enjoyed.
Bron lives for the individual accomplishments, not the team mentality it takes to get rings.

Folks who think just like him simply don’t get it.

Bron is the quintessential millennial, like his fans.
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Old 03-02-2025, 12:59 AM   #562
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If you can’t win rings more times than you lose them, you fall back on your individual accomplishments.

We’ve seen that tactic from LeBron homers for decades.

It’s why I called him Mebron for such a long time - it’s exactly what he is.
Michael Jordan was 6-9 so he must suck too. The only good players played for the 60s Celtics, Bill Russell, John Havlicek, Sam Jones, etc.
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Michael Jordan was 6-9 so he must suck too. The only good players played for the 60s Celtics, Bill Russell, John Havlicek, Sam Jones, etc.
Boomers in the 60’s understood the concept of team greatness.
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Old 03-02-2025, 01:51 AM   #564
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Bron lives for the individual accomplishments, not the team mentality it takes to get rings.

Folks who think just like him simply don’t get it.

Bron is the quintessential millennial, like his fans.
LeBrons never done anything to the potential detriment of his legacy to win titles. Well, not more than a few times. Happy to see in my absence several speaking common sense and putting you all in your place. Well done guys. LeBron is still playing amazing, even at this stage of his career. Just entered top 5 in the mvp tracker. Remember when you all said he was washed when he left Miami over a decade ago lmao.
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Old 03-02-2025, 06:22 AM   #565
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Bron lives for the individual accomplishments, not the team mentality it takes to get rings.

Folks who think just like him simply don’t get it.

Bron is the quintessential millennial, like his fans.
Yet he has 4 rings..
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Old 03-02-2025, 09:27 AM   #566
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Yeah. 7-1 with no AD or Luka on floor. Stat padder. I guess what he’s doing does not equate to wins? Just chucking it on efficient numbers? 7-1 with no AD or Luka on the floor this year? And the 4th quarter stat padding like when they beat the Mavs just a couple nights ago?

This is the dumbest take I’ve ever seen. And legit is fueled by hate and zero logic or reason
It's a small sample size. Four of the wins are against teams with losing records. They beat the Trailblazers twice, the Nets and Wizards. They only beat the Nets by one point. They also had impressive wins over the Knicks, Clippers, and Warriors. The loss was to the Grizzlies.

The Lakers are 3-1 when LeBron doesn't play. They beat the Trailblazers, Kings, and Pacers. The loss was to the Timberwolves.

There's a recent ESPN+ article titled - "LeBron is having a historic run of bad luck -- let's find out why". I don't have ESPN+, but I was able to read the article, because a user posted it on another forum. It's an interesting read. I'm sure there is some bad luck involved. LeBron does play a lot of minutes with bench players who are not very good. But the fact is the Lakers net rating is better with LeBron on the bench. The Lakers are playing better this season without LeBron on the floor.
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It's a small sample size. Four of the wins are against teams with losing records. They beat the Trailblazers twice, the Nets and Wizards. They only beat the Nets by one point. They also had impressive wins over the Knicks, Clippers, and Warriors. The loss was to the Grizzlies.

The Lakers are 3-1 when LeBron doesn't play. They beat the Trailblazers, Kings, and Pacers. The loss was to the Timberwolves.

There's a recent ESPN+ article titled - "LeBron is having a historic run of bad luck -- let's find out why". I don't have ESPN+, but I was able to read the article, because a user posted it on another forum. It's an interesting read. I'm sure there is some bad luck involved. LeBron does play a lot of minutes with bench players who are not very good. But the fact is the Lakers net rating is better with LeBron on the bench. The Lakers are playing better this season without LeBron on the floor.
Are we really stooping that low to say that the team is better without LeBron on the floor? I don’t even know what to say
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Yet he has 4 rings..
Having been to the finals TEN times, and with his god-given talent, shouldn’t he have won at least half the time like the other all time greats?

Something is missing there……
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Having been to the finals TEN times, and with his god-given talent, shouldn’t he have won at least half the time like the other all time greats?
He got to the finals 10 times but is not a team player.. you’re right. Do you hear yourself?
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He got to the finals 10 times but is not a team player.. you’re right. Do you hear yourself?
It’s simple, he chokes when it really matters.

SPAT - stat padder of all time.
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It’s simple, he chokes when it really matters.

SPAT - stat padder of all time.
Yet got to the finals and has 4 rings. Clearly doesn’t play winning ball. Oh. And also super efficient numbers.. you’re delusional. Do you even like basketball? I’m curious. Who is your team? Have a favorite player?
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Yet got to the finals and has 4 rings. Clearly doesn’t play winning ball. Oh. And also super efficient numbers.. you’re delusional. Do you even like basketball? I’m curious. Who is your team? Have a favorite player?
He has the greatest physical toolbox arguably of all time.

He couldn’t even translate that into a winning finals record.

If super efficient numbers is all that matters to you, you found your guy.

Your guy is going to have to depend on Luka to carry him to the finals this year.

Isn’t it obvious I’m an MJ Stan?
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He has the greatest physical toolbox arguably of all time.

He couldn’t even translate that into a winning finals record.

If super efficient numbers is all that matters to you, you found your guy.

Your guy is going to have to depend on Luka to carry him to the finals this year.

Isn’t it obvious I’m an MJ Stan?
Yeah. That makes sense. You can try to move goalposts and use illogical statements with no backing like “stat padder”. Stat padder got to the finals 10 times and won 4 times. He won. Period.

And of course you’re already trying to detract from if he wins one at 40 or later with.. it’s all Luka. Make sure to set that precedent now. He’s a non-contributing stat padder. It’s all Luka. Just in case. Yanno?
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It really must bother these trolls that there is a legitimate "LeBron / Jordan - GOAT" conversation. I mean, they're so fanatical, here they are in a Luka thread attempting to undercut LeBron's status. Dang.
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It really must bother these trolls that there is a legitimate "LeBron / Jordan - GOAT" conversation. I mean, they're so fanatical, here they are in a Luka thread attempting to undercut LeBron's status. Dang.
Don’t worry. They’re already starting their narratives now that they’re playing well. They should win so if they don’t. You know. But.. if they do. It’s Luka’s team.

Then they’ll say the Bron homers are doing it. Meanwhile it’s them making the argument and people who are actually basketball fans just rebuttal their claims. The irony and gaslighting that goes on here is truly toxic
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