⛏⛏⛏ The Official 2025 San Francisco 49ers Thread: Return of the Purdi ⛏⛏⛏

[BonVoyage]

Originally Posted by tjforce

9ers have to be one of the most interesting teams this season:

Their top end talent, is elite, but old. Williams, McCaffrey, Kittle, Samuel, Floyd.... lethal if all healthy, but injury prone.

It's a team that has a legit shot at getting a Super Bowl, but also a legit shot and wanting to blow it up at some point very soon. But what it looks like is they'll run it back at least one more season.

Lynch said the other day that Deebo is as good as gone. Something like "he's asked for a fresh start and we think thats best" I forget the exact quote.

He also said they're trying to extend Kittle. I hope they're able to, but they have to bring down his avg salary. his cap hit is $22M for 2025, which is the highest for any TE (about 10% higher than #2).

Really curious what they do with Jordan Mason. Led the league in rushing when he got hurt, if I'm not mistaken, but they're already paying CMC a lot and have Isaac Guerendo on a rookie deal.

[jacksonjj]

I'd love to see the 9ers stay at 11 and draft the best possible LT replacement for Williams. He won't be there forever and Purdy does awesome when he has time in the pocket.

Their skill position players don't need to be upgraded for a couple years yet (yes i know they're oLd), and they might not have such a high pick for years. Time to get the future 12 year starter at LT to pair with Purdy long term imo.

[BonVoyage]

Originally Posted by jacksonjj

I'd love to see the 9ers stay at 11 and draft the best possible LT replacement for Williams. He won't be there forever and Purdy does awesome when he has time in the pocket.

Their skill position players don't need to be upgraded for a couple years yet (yes i know they're oLd), and they might not have such a high pick for years. Time to get the future 12 year starter at LT to pair with Purdy long term imo.

Unfortunately, the top 2 OT prospects are the ones that are also mentioned as candidates to move inside to Guard because their arms aren't very long. When you get beyond them, you're talking about guys that are coming back from injury (Josh Simmons) or might not be a good fit for Kyle's zone blocking.

[slyguy]

I bet them 12-1 to win SB.
Their division got a lot weaker, and NFC is a fairy easy path to SB (Eagles? Dallas? GB/Det/Min?)... that's the main reason.
I don't think the Niners are world-beaters, but they're as good or better than any of those teams.

Deebo is too physical, broke his body down like a lot of TEs do... probably won't add much to any team ever again. He's gone for sure via trade or cut.

Purdy isn't amazing, but he can win playoff games... can hang in big games.
Only a handful of QBs seem to do that. Many high paid ones can't (TLaw, Tua, Herb, Dak, etc).
The draft is super weak 2025 QBs... weakest in many years.
Vet quarterback FA market is old and/or not any better (Darnold, Carr?, Stafford?, Cousins?, ARodg, Fields, Russ, Mac, DJones, etc).
I think Mac might work or Russ would be a fit, but he's old. They have a good coach, good GM... want to get a perennial contender.
They'll have to re-sign him to another deal... Brocky II.

[Jaysabz]

Big season for the 49ers.

They had a rough '24-'25, but their division isn't particularly strong, especially now that it appears the Rams may opt to enter a rebuilding effort - so they'll play the Rams twice, the Cardinals twice, and the Seahawks twice.

They play the NFC South this year, so Falcons, Saints, Panthers and Bucs and AFC South so Titans, Colts, Jags and Texans, plus their 3 "other" games.

Super Bowl LX is in SF - perhaps the stars will align.

If they struggle, it's probably time for a reboot though given the ease of schedule and the ages and injury statuses of their biggest stars.

[jacksonjj]

It's baffling to me why the Rams are so eager to rebuild and let Kupp and Stafford walk out of the building. They were one completion away from beating the Eagles and going to the super bowl this year. Truly mind boggling they would want to upend that team.

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by jacksonjj

It's baffling to me why the Rams are so eager to rebuild and let Kupp and Stafford walk out of the building. They were one completion away from beating the Eagles and going to the super bowl this year. Truly mind boggling they would want to upend that team.

I have to assume they really think the rest of the team is good enough to win without those two.


TBH, Kupp should be easy enough to replace (at least the production he put up this year). Stafford, on the other hand, they'll need a solid plan in place

[49erRCCollector]

The Niners ARE going to lose some guys this year so they have to nail this draft, and not just find a gem in the 5th round. This is a "draft for need, and draft guys who can start over 'big upside' guys".

The Niners have manipulated the cap and collection of draft picks (with the exception of the Lance debacle) expertly. But they NEED to have a great draft.

[hermanotarjeta]

Good riddance or will Brock really miss him?

[Floridacardguy]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Good riddance or will Brock really miss him?

I think they miss the speed not the player. They need to replace that in the draft

[slyguy]

Originally Posted by Floridacardguy

I think they miss the speed not the player. They need to replace that in the draft

Deebo's 30 before next season ends. He hasn't been producing for years.

It was a great move to dump $18M onto Washington... and get a draft pick.

[49erRCCollector]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Good riddance or will Brock really miss him?

Somewhere in-between? He's always been a me-first personality, and with his production falling off and him bellyaching to the press (then not delivering when given opportunities) it was time... but he had some great years. At this point, I would not be surprised for the Niners to ditch Aiyuk as well and go with Jennings and Pearsall and maybe sign some low cost vets/draft someone.

If McCaffrey is healthy, he eats up some of the snaps Deebo got. At the end of the day, it is what it is.

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by slyguy

Deebo's 30 before next season ends. He hasn't been producing for years.

It was a great move to dump $18M onto Washington... and get a draft pick.

“Before next season ends” because his birthday is January 16th… so yes he will play this entire regular season and playoffs at age 29… but if the Commanders make the Super Bowl? Dude is 30

I notice you ignore the dead cap hit

Shocking

[mjekase]

Originally Posted by slyguy

Deebo's 30 before next season ends. He hasn't been producing for years.

It was a great move to dump $18M onto Washington... and get a draft pick.

They lost $16mil in cap space because of the dead cap hit.

This was an ok move for both sides, but not a slam dunk for either.

[Floridacardguy]

Any chance that the 49ers trade Purdy to the Titans for the #1 overall pick, and let the Titans pay him? That's out there in a couple places as a possibility. I don't see it. I can't accept it. Who you bringing in? It is an interesting idea, but no way. You let him walk, and then some other QB comes in and looks like crap- that's a job ender for multiple people on the staff.

[BonVoyage]

Originally Posted by mjekase

They lost $16mil in cap space because of the dead cap hit.

This was an ok move for both sides, but not a slam dunk for either.

The niners aren't overly concerned about the current year cap space. If they were, they could have just released Deebo and spread the cap hit across two seasons. Even after the trade they still have north of $30M in space this year, and could create more by extending guys like Kittle.

The rumors about trading Aiyuk are a bad look. If they were inclined to trade him, they should've done it last year. The return would be much smaller this year.

[Boo]

Originally Posted by Floridacardguy

Any chance that the 49ers trade Purdy to the Titans for the #1 overall pick, and let the Titans pay him? That's out there in a couple places as a possibility. I don't see it. I can't accept it. Who you bringing in? It is an interesting idea, but no way. You let him walk, and then some other QB comes in and looks like crap- that's a job ender for multiple people on the staff.

Purdy for the #1 overall, you can't make this stuff up!

[Floridacardguy]

Originally Posted by Boo

Purdy for the #1 overall, you can't make this stuff up!

That's not a dumb trade for the Titans. A #1 draft pick is no guarantee, especially with this year's "Crap QB class" so if Levis is not the answer(which he clearly doesn't seem to be) and you need a good QB to come in, why NOT the QB that led his team to 2 straight championships in the last 3 yrs?

[Jaysabz]

Originally Posted by mjekase

They lost $16mil in cap space because of the dead cap hit.

This was an ok move for both sides, but not a slam dunk for either.

I read 31m in dead cap on Deebo, but the cap went up 23.8m, so with the increase you're taking a net dead cap hit of 7m in 2025 for a 5th rounder this year, whereas if you cut him post-June 1 you could have spread his dead cap hit across 2025-26 and 2026-27.

[hermanotarjeta]

Niners reported initial offer to Purdy: $45M.

[Floridacardguy]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Niners reported initial offer to Purdy: $45M.

He will come back at 50, they will meet at 47.5

[jacksonjj]

Originally Posted by Floridacardguy

He will come back at 50, they will meet at 47.5

Any agent would counter as 55 for a QB with Purdy's playoff resume, they're lucky if the agent doesn't demand 65 based on recent contracts for inferior QBs. I bet the dust settles at 50.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by Floridacardguy

He will come back at 50, they will meet at 47.5

Originally Posted by jacksonjj

Any agent would counter as 55 for a QB with Purdy's playoff resume, they're lucky if the agent doesn't demand 65 based on recent contracts for inferior QBs. I bet the dust settles at 50.

This negotiation is gonna get drawn out through training camp, at least.

Would be interesting if Niners picked up a free agent QB in the meantime.

[Floridacardguy]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

This negotiation is gonna get drawn out through training camp, at least.

Would be interesting if Niners picked up a free agent QB in the meantime.

I think that they have to wrap it up pre draft.
If they get to a point in the next few weeks, where they are too far apart, and the 49ers know that they aren't going to get to Purdy's #,maybe they try and trade him pre draft

[49erRCCollector]

Originally Posted by Floridacardguy

I think that they have to wrap it up pre draft.
If they get to a point in the next few weeks, where they are too far apart, and the 49ers know that they aren't going to get to Purdy's #,maybe they try and trade him pre draft

That is not their strategy (look at Bosa, Deebo, Aiyuk negotiations). It goes down to the wire, through camp and pre-season most of the time.

The other thing - as has been noticed in the press - is that they could let him play on a $5 mil final year of his deal then franchise tag him for $41 million in 2026 and then again (if they want) for $51 million in 2027.

What's he gonna do about it?

If he makes a deal at $45/year at least he'll have guarantees.

Despite John Lynch saying they want him there, and I do think they do want him there, they still want to win and he is not Patrick Mahomes. They have to pay others. He is not Lamar Jackson. He's not Josh Allen.

They know this.