The Dark Horse Bo Nix "Heisman to the Hall" Career Thread

[Floridacardguy]

Originally Posted by thesportslab

Prolific is another solid add. Great design this year - and thankfully not horizontal like last year (Panini did the inverse with Prizm Profiles this year ) Wish you would’ve received a 10 for the Blank Slate but it still looks top notch in the SGC slab.

Are you seeing prices drop yet? I plan to start looking after the season but if the hype is dying already, nah start now.

Thanks. My Prolific is heading to SGC as we speak. I haven't been paying attention to the Nix prices since they lost in the playoffs because I have been focused so much on grading. I will check back in after the season wraps

[Floridacardguy]

Nix fans, who should the Broncos target to really give Nix more of an arsenal?
Coach Payton recently said he won't be using a bell cow RB going forward (when that is exactly what they need) I hope he's playing some Poker and lying about that, and that he wants to go after Jeanty. They need to draft a RB early- a stud that can be a 3 down back, pound the rock, and open up play action. Also, TE is crucial, and would open up the passing attack. Bowers is an exception, I think most TEs take a couple years to really develop, not sure Payton wants to wait for that long. That being said, there is a good chance Mark Andrews is a cap casualty, and if so, Broncos need to grab him. He's 29, and still has a few years left in him, still productive (minus his dropped pass in the playoffs) Signing him would allow Payton to a develop a younger more raw TE. If you stick Jeanty and Andrews on this team, that offense gets a major boost. I am fine with the WR corps they already have if they add Jeanty and Andrews. I have heard some discussion that Chris Godwin or Tee Higgins could be in play- not crazy about either one due to their injury history. I wouldn't mind seeing them grab Restrepo RD 2. Nix could feed him all day underneath from the slot. Mims would be a big play threat/speedster, and Sutton a bit of both.

My wish list is:
Jeanty rd1-
Restrepo rd 2-
Project TE rd 3 or after

If Jeanty is gone, grab Omarion Hampton
Free agent signing- Mark Andrews

[Floridacardguy]

My latest Nix goodies

[thesportslab]

Some good ones there. Think Prolific is my favorite of the bunch. I see the Disco and Lazer there….you going for an Orange Ice this off-season?

[Floridacardguy]

Originally Posted by thesportslab

Some good ones there. Think Prolific is my favorite of the bunch. I see the Disco and Lazer there….you going for an Orange Ice this off-season?

Thanks. I agree, I like Prolific too.(I also just picked up a Night Moves I really like on the way to graders) I am likely going to add the ice soon, no rush.

[spend1kget50bac]

The thing about nix is a lot of people....still think he really really sucks lol. I'm not neccessarily one of them, but still *lots* of questions out there surrounding him going forward. And to be fair to those nix doubters, this year(including the playoff game) he had about 7 games(ie a decent chunk of the season) where he really really looked like ass. A few of those games they actually won, but we'll see.....

[PSA2Pac]

Gotta question for this thread

I’m a born/raised in Denver, big Broncos fan that moved away from football cards past couple years (got stuck w/ one too many Jeudy) and mostly have been buying basketball

Recently had an opportunity to get a Bo Nix Orange Lazer Prizm RC signed and started looking on eBay. Not only is there nothing after market signed, there’s no Prizm/Panini packed pulled autos of his. What happened?

Just noticed the same for all the big qbs of this rookie class

Like I said I’m out of the loop

[slyguy]

Originally Posted by spend1kget50bac

The thing about nix is a lot of people....still think he really really sucks lol. I'm not neccessarily one of them, but still *lots* of questions out there surrounding him going forward. And to be fair to those nix doubters, this year(including the playoff game) he had about 7 games(ie a decent chunk of the season) where he really really looked like ass. A few of those games they actually won, but we'll see.....

He's a real good decision maker... very coachable.
As for the mistakes and low stats games... HE'S A ROOKIE. They all do that.

Brady was like that. He was pretty far from the best athlete or best arm, but he got results.

2024 was a great QB draft class. That doesn't help him for hype or card values.
Nix doesn't have the freaky good arm of a Rattler or Penix.
He can't run and spin like Daniels or Maye.
He wasn't amazing all-around like Caleb.

Still, Bo wins. Coaches like him. Teammates like him.
He also doesn't have the injury risks of runners like Jayden or Caleb.
He does play on a good team, and he plays well so far. Don't count Nix out.
His biggest problem is mainly that Mahomes plays in his division.

But yeah, Nix simply won't have the "wow" highlights like most of the other 2024 quarterbacks, so I think the hobby values want those... but stats/results will win long term. I forsee a career a bit like Rivers or better... Brees probably his max/ceiling, floor of Brad Johnson etc. He's a servicable NFL starter, if not more.

[Floridacardguy]

Originally Posted by spend1kget50bac

The thing about nix is a lot of people....still think he really really sucks lol. I'm not neccessarily one of them, but still *lots* of questions out there surrounding him going forward. And to be fair to those nix doubters, this year(including the playoff game) he had about 7 games(ie a decent chunk of the season) where he really really looked like ass. A few of those games they actually won, but we'll see.....

Watched every Nix game this year. The worst 7 games you mentioned, were all front loaded at the beginning of the season for the most part against tough defenses. Once he got his sea legs, he was excellent.


He LED ALL ROOKIES in total TDs and completions. He had the longest pass in air yards in the NFL this season out of ANY QB. It went 67 yards in the air (not bad for a kid that has a weak arm and can only throw short passes, huh?)

(the lack of a running game came back to haunt them against the Bills in the playoffs)


He did this with zero help from his TE room, and zero help from his RB room. He had only 80 less rush yards than his team's #1 RB. That is pitiful.
Another year under his belt with an addition at TE and RB will erase any doubts, this kid is the real deal. He's going to get unlocked once he has a RB game to balance the offense and a TE that can be a weapon.

As far as overall card values of 2024 QB,s Nix is selling behind only Daniels. YES, there may be some Nix doubters or haters, but overall most people know the truth that he had a great rookie season and will have a bright future

[Floridacardguy]

Originally Posted by PSA2Pac

Gotta question for this thread

I’m a born/raised in Denver, big Broncos fan that moved away from football cards past couple years (got stuck w/ one too many Jeudy) and mostly have been buying basketball

Recently had an opportunity to get a Bo Nix Orange Lazer Prizm RC signed and started looking on eBay. Not only is there nothing after market signed, there’s no Prizm/Panini packed pulled autos of his. What happened?

Just noticed the same for all the big qbs of this rookie class

Like I said I’m out of the loop

Him, and several other rookie QBs signed exclusive autograph rights with Fanatics, who don't yet have license/rights to print NFL logo cards, so the cards currently being produced of Nix with autos are unlicensed Topps.

[Floridacardguy]

Originally Posted by slyguy

He's a real good decision maker... very coachable.
As for the mistakes and low stats games... HE'S A ROOKIE. They all do that.

Brady was like that. He was pretty far from the best athlete or best arm, but he got results.

2024 was a great QB draft class. That doesn't help him for hype or card values.
Nix doesn't have the freaky good arm of a Rattler or Penix.
He can't run and spin like Daniels or Maye.
He wasn't amazing all-around like Caleb.

Still, Bo wins. Coaches like him. Teammates like him.
He also doesn't have the injury risks of runners like Jayden or Caleb.
He does play on a good team, and he plays well so far. Don't count Nix out.
His biggest problem is mainly that Mahomes plays in his division.

But yeah, Nix simply won't have the "wow" highlights like most of the other 2024 quarterbacks, so I think the hobby values want those... but stats/results will win long term. I forsee a career a bit like Rivers or better... Brees probably his max/ceiling, floor of Brad Johnson etc. He's a servicable NFL starter, if not more.

You are a Rattler obsessive, almost every post you make mentions him. Good on you for supporting him. For having a weak arm, Nix had the longest pass in the air out of ANY QB this year- 67 yards- so enough with the arm strength talk

[PSA2Pac]

Originally Posted by Floridacardguy

Him, and several other rookie QBs signed exclusive autograph rights with Fanatics, who don't yet have license/rights to print NFL logo cards, so the cards currently being produced of Nix with autos are unlicensed Topps.

Ok that makes sense. Wow, I didn’t realize how rare getting this card signed was a couple days ago



I got it signed for free at an event my credit union was having, and I thought he gave the short sig (without Nix) because it was free

Then I noticed he signed every item, other than cards, with his full sig, so I assumed it had something to do with his Panini deal (not knowing he doesn’t even have a deal w/ em)

The weird part is he did a paid sit down signing yesterday and the same thing - full sigs on everything except cards. People paid $180 (plus an extra $70 for the inscription), to get the same short sig I got



Was very surprised, usually paid signings you’re getting the full auto on every item, regardless of what other deals are in place


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[Floridacardguy]

Originally Posted by PSA2Pac

Ok that makes sense. Wow, I didn’t realize how rare getting this card signed was a couple days ago



I got it signed for free at an event my credit union was having, and I thought he gave the short sig (without Nix) because it was free

Then I noticed he signed every item, other than cards, with his full sig, so I assumed it had something to do with his Panini deal (not knowing he doesn’t even have a deal w/ em)

The weird part is he did a paid sit down signing yesterday and the same thing - full sigs on everything except cards. People paid $180 (plus an extra $70 for the inscription), to get the same short sig I got



Was very surprised, usually paid signings you’re getting the full auto on every item, regardless of what other deals are in place


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That's sweet to get those autos no matter what. Good for you

[Siberian13]

Blue auto looks a lot better. The orange on orange is just odd. Still cool to get team color autos though.

[Floridacardguy]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

Blue auto looks a lot better. The orange on orange is just odd. Still cool to get team color autos though.

That Orange ink would look amazing on a a Black card

[PSA2Pac]

Originally Posted by Floridacardguy

That's sweet to get those autos no matter what. Good for you

Originally Posted by Siberian13

Blue auto looks a lot better. The orange on orange is just odd. Still cool to get team color autos though.

Originally Posted by Floridacardguy

That Orange ink would look amazing on a a Black card

Thanks, yeah the first blue Sharpie signed Lazer is mine

The other two are somebody else’s that paid for his sit down signing


I also agree - Orange on Orange doesn’t make sense. Gets drowned out. Gotta contrast Broncos orange with the other Broncos color - blue

Yeah, orange/bright colors look best on black/dark background

[TheVolta]

Originally Posted by Floridacardguy

That Orange ink would look amazing on a a Black card

Floridacardguy, I just want to say I respect and appreciate your Bo Nix support and tell you that I love your signature…. Someone get me a can of water.

[slyguy]

Originally Posted by Floridacardguy

You are a Rattler obsessive, almost every post you make mentions him. Good on you for supporting him. For having a weak arm, Nix had the longest pass in the air out of ANY QB this year- 67 yards- so enough with the arm strength talk

Lol, I made a post saying Nix is very good... in a VERY good QB class, and you still complain? Wow.

Nix was clearly the most pro-ready of the 2024 QBs.
He was probably the safest - but on the low end for athletic ability or top end potential.
Nearly all of the others (I mentioned them all, not just Rattler), had major or minor flaws... transferred schools, limited NCAA start exp, injuries, etc.
But yeah, we knew Nix was probably the most ready to contribute, longest NCAA resume of probably any prospect ever, top 10 NCAA passer, etc.

A lot of times, boring is good for NFL terms and success. The coach is good and the team is historically popular. Good for him. Good results. Like I said, he's a solid starter - clearly. It remains to be seen if he'll be a star. It'll be tough with Mahomes in the division and Mahomes + Allen + Burrow + Lamar (and Herbie/Stroud maybe?) to compete with for playoffs and ProBowls every year. The question was: why are Nix cards values not higher, and THAT is your answer.

I think Nix NFL value is good on the team he's on, but at the same time, his card values will stay grounded because he's on the team he's on. It's hard to win the division with Mahomes in there. It's very hard to win playoff games wild card. He had a great rookie year with likely more to come. Broncos were 3rd place in 2024 Nix rook year (10-7), but their ceiling is likely 2nd place in that grouping. A lot of people rightly feel that way... argue if you wish.

For sports cards, everyone always chases "the next big thing," and the other 2024 rookies are just sexier in that way as they haven't played much/any yet (McCarthy, Penix, Rattler) - or their team was pretty bad and could get better (Caleb, Jayden, Maye etc). Nix values will pass them in a few years if they don't do much and/or he keeps doing well. Stay tuned.

[Floridacardguy]

Originally Posted by TheVolta

Floridacardguy, I just want to say I respect and appreciate your Bo Nix support and tell you that I love your signature…. Someone get me a can of water.

Appreciate it

[Floridacardguy]

Originally Posted by slyguy

Lol, I made a post saying Nix is very good... in a VERY good QB class, and you still complain? Wow.

Nix was clearly the most pro-ready of the 2024 QBs.
He was probably the safest - but on the low end for athletic ability or top end potential.
Nearly all of the others (I mentioned them all, not just Rattler), had major or minor flaws... transferred schools, limited NCAA start exp, injuries, etc.
But yeah, we knew Nix was probably the most ready to contribute, longest NCAA resume of probably any prospect ever, top 10 NCAA passer, etc.

A lot of times, boring is good for NFL terms and success. The coach is good and the team is historically popular. Good for him. Good results. Like I said, he's a solid starter - clearly. It remains to be seen if he'll be a star. It'll be tough with Mahomes in the division and Mahomes + Allen + Burrow + Lamar (and Herbie/Stroud maybe?) to compete with for playoffs and ProBowls every year. The question was: why are Nix cards values not higher, and THAT is your answer.

I think Nix NFL value is good on the team he's on, but at the same time, his card values will stay grounded because he's on the team he's on. It's hard to win the division with Mahomes in there. It's very hard to win playoff games wild card. He had a great rookie year with likely more to come. Broncos were 3rd place in 2024 Nix rook year (10-7), but their ceiling is likely 2nd place in that grouping. A lot of people rightly feel that way... argue if you wish.

For sports cards, everyone always chases "the next big thing," and the other 2024 rookies are just sexier in that way as they haven't played much/any yet (McCarthy, Penix, Rattler) - or their team was pretty bad and could get better (Caleb, Jayden, Maye etc). Nix values will pass them in a few years if they don't do much and/or he keeps doing well. Stay tuned.

You act like Mahomes and the Chiefs are still juggernauts. They ain't. They just proved they are human and lost a SB. They barely squeaked out wins against the Broncos and Panthers this season. There were other games that came down to calls in their favor. Mahomes is another year older. Kelce on verge of retirement and showed at times he was NOT the same player he was previously.


Meanwhile you got the Broncos about to add some key pieces, along with a hell of a smart coach, you got the Chargers with a fantastic coach, also gonna add some pieces. Who knows, maybe the Raiders even figure out the QB & coach spot and get competitive, but the Chiefs are no longer gonna roll over the division. You'll see that soon enough.

[slyguy]

Originally Posted by Floridacardguy

...the Chiefs are no longer gonna roll over the division. You'll see that soon enough.

Ok, well, don't take my word for it... good old Vegas is beggin you to make some money then:

To win SuperBowl LX (official odds, or close, most places... bet now or anytime):
KC +650
LAC +2800
Den +4000
Vegas +12500

To win AFC West 2025 season will be out there after draft, but just my early guesses:
KC -325
LAC +300
Den +700
Vegas +2500

So, the people who know say KC is over 3x as likely to win the SB or divi as any other team in the group. But what do they know, huh? They probably are so out of touch out on their yachts that they don't even know SGC is a top quality grading company!

[Floridacardguy]

Originally Posted by slyguy

Ok, well, don't take my word for it... good old Vegas is beggin you to make some money then:

To win SuperBowl LX (official odds, or close, most places... bet now or anytime):
KC +650
LAC +2800
Den +4000
Vegas +12500

To win AFC West 2025 season will be out there after draft, but just my early guesses:
KC -325
LAC +300
Den +700
Vegas +2500

So, the people who know say KC is over 3x as likely to win the SB or divi as any other team in the group. But what do they know, huh? They probably are so out of touch out on their yachts that they don't even know SGC is a top quality grading company!

You like the Chiefs so much, put some $$ on them. And enough with your SGC grading comments- I suspect you don't have much graded cards of anyone at all. And YOU are the same guy that comments in threads and lists things that are glaring mistakes, proving you don't know what you are talking about. Go back to saying incorrect things about Tanner McKee, and that an SGC 10 of a card adds ZERO value- you are simply wrong (repeatedly)

[majestik101]

Originally Posted by Floridacardguy

You act like Mahomes and the Chiefs are still juggernauts. They ain't. They just proved they are human and lost a SB.

Just?

You're about 5 years too late. they proved this back in 2020 when they got the stuffing beat out of them in the 813 when Mahomes was reaching for his mouthpiece like Mike Tyson during the Buster Douglas fight so let's not act like this is a sudden revelation cos it's not.

Ok back on the ignore list with you.

[Floridacardguy]

Some undesirables enter the Nix chat. Wonder what they had to say? Can't see because they are on the blocked list- quite sure it was of zero value. Anyhow, let's carry on.

[Floridacardguy]

This is always a fun chase card for the PC