Patrick Mahomes Prices

[Delta5]

Originally Posted by MyckKabongo

What's it gonna take to ban this guy? 2000 posts, most of which are trolling in the Mahomes thread. Again I ask, why is this player thread asked to put up with this? Can someone point me to the other player threads with this level of trolling?

This guy promised to stop posting in this thread and didn't keep his word.

I thought I'm on your ignore list? Why does it matter what I said? Am I also living rent free on your head?

[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by MyckKabongo

What's it gonna take to ban this guy? 2000 posts, most of which are trolling in the Mahomes thread. Again I ask, why is this player thread asked to put up with this? Can someone point me to the other player threads with this level of trolling?

This guy promised to stop posting in this thread and didn't keep his word.

Everyone knows his word is no good and he has no integrity. He's not being quoted which for losers like him is the worst feeling in the world. He lives for the attention.

[Delta5]

Originally Posted by Leggo

If he were to of won… he would have been the first to three peat, but hey losing that game after the best 3 season stretch in NFL history tarnishes everything haha. Stupid haters man

Losing is fine, but not this kind embarrassment of a loss lol

[JohnnyHatesJazz]

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

And trolls troll.

I think to qualify as a pumper you need something to pump. I sold my Mahomes rookies years ago when I sold my Brady rookies. I think I might have three total left. Try again. Here's a crazy thought - some people actually enjoy watching players. Crazy huh???

oh crap, you're still awake? Didn't think you'd see my post.

[imbluestreak23]

Originally Posted by slyguy

Yep, agree.

I'm fairly glad the game went the way it did because Mahomes' card prices might stay semi-affordable and people might quit blaming refs/favoritism.

Mahomes stats were gangbusters with Tyreek, and his chemistry with Worthy went up and up as the 2024 season went on (same for Rashee Rice 2023). It's a team game. No other QB in the league could've had his top 2 preseason WRs (Rice and Hollywood) on IR within the first month of the season and even made the playoffs... much less the SB.

I would argue, if you put any other QB on this team, in this game tonight. The boomer Brady stans can throw Tom out there. The 9er fans can throw Joe Montana. Prison cheeks can throw out Josh. Nobody is having a better outcome than what Mahomes was able to do tonight. There was no chance for any QB regardless of who was taking snaps behind center. Same thing in Tampa Bay. Casual basketball fans who are new to the sport, follow stat sheets, and never played the sport won't understand it, and unfortunately that does create narratives over time. But the truth is, Mahomes hides a lot of flaws on this team and has hid a lot of flaws since 2018, until he can't hide them.

[49erRCCollector]

Originally Posted by MyckKabongo

What's it gonna take to ban this guy? 2000 posts, most of which are trolling in the Mahomes thread. Again I ask, why is this player thread asked to put up with this? Can someone point me to the other player threads with this level of trolling?

This guy promised to stop posting in this thread and didn't keep his word.

Mahomes is the best QB in the league. Of course there will be more trolling. No one is trolling the Tanner McKee thread.

People need thicker skin.

I sometimes forget adults post here.

It’s just football.

[Chris P]

Originally Posted by Leggo

If he were to of won… he would have been the first to three peat, but hey losing that game after the best 3 season stretch in NFL history tarnishes everything haha. Stupid haters man

And your arguing with a guy who's team can't even get to the super bowl..its so laughably sad. He even pathetically said this was "his superbowl" bc his team can't get the job done

[slyguy]

Originally Posted by Chris P

I didn't say he was bad overall career wise, far from it. I'm not conceding his career is over like some of the ridiculous takes in here but he did play awful..bad o line play or not. And getting garbage tds at the end doesn't mean anything honestly. That game was over by then

Yes, garbage time does count.

It might not be winnable at that point, but for someone like Pat (or Kelce), those yards and TDs at the end still do add to Mahomes gaining on TB12 marks (and cementing records against future younger QBs with all 17 and 18 game seasons, possible different playoff formats).

The bad OL play in big games against good teams kills basically any QB, though. And if you put almost any other QB on Earth onto KC 2024 team (with the injuries to both start WRs, start RB, OL, etc), they're not even going to make the playoffs - much less the SuperBowl. I'm amazed they won it in 2023 with all of the bad WR drops... but they did.

[kipgen]

Originally Posted by imbluestreak23

I would argue, if you put any other QB on this team, in this game tonight. The boomer Brady stans can throw Tom out there. The 9er fans can throw Joe Montana. Prison cheeks can throw out Josh. Nobody is having a better outcome than what Mahomes was able to do tonight. There was no chance for any QB regardless of who was taking snaps behind center. Same thing in Tampa Bay. Casual basketball fans who are new to the sport, follow stat sheets, and never played the sport won't understand it, and unfortunately that does create narratives over time. But the truth is, Mahomes hides a lot of flaws on this team and has hid a lot of flaws since 2018, until he can't hide them.

This is straight up cope

There are other QBs that wouldn't have thrown a pick six, another pick, and a fumble in the biggest game of their career

But hey tell yourself whatever you want

[gottagitdemjs]

[slyguy]

Originally Posted by imbluestreak23

I would argue, if you put any other QB on this team, in this game tonight. The boomer Brady stans can throw Tom out there. The 9er fans can throw Joe Montana. Prison cheeks can throw out Josh. Nobody is having a better outcome than what Mahomes was able to do tonight. There was no chance for any QB regardless of who was taking snaps behind center. Same thing in Tampa Bay. Casual basketball fans who are new to the sport, follow stat sheets, and never played the sport won't understand it, and unfortunately that does create narratives over time. But the truth is, Mahomes hides a lot of flaws on this team and has hid a lot of flaws since 2018, until he can't hide them.

Yep, absolutely.

It was amazing to see them win somehow in 2023 with all of the flaws on the team, some very bad KC WR drops.

[kipgen]

Originally Posted by slyguy

Yes, garbage time does count.

It might not be winnable at that point, but for someone like Pat (or Kelce), those yards and TDs at the end still do add to Mahomes gaining on TB12 marks (and cementing records against future younger QBs with all 17 and 18 game seasons, possible different playoff formats).

The bad OL play in big games against good teams kills basically any QB, though. And if you put almost any other QB on Earth onto KC 2024 team (with the injuries to both start WRs, start RB, OL, etc), they're not even going to make the playoffs - much less the SuperBowl. I'm amazed they won it in 2023 with all of the bad WR drops... but they did.

If you're relying on garbage time stats (and for people in the future to forget they're garbage time when they look back and look at the box score for the game) to make your argument that Mahomes is better than Brady, I think you've already lost the argument

[imbluestreak23]

Originally Posted by kipgen

This is straight up cope

There are other QBs that wouldn't have thrown a pick six, another pick, and a fumble in the biggest game of their career

But hey tell yourself whatever you want

I did tell myself that and believe it 100%! It's why it was posted

[JohnnyHatesJazz]

Originally Posted by kipgen

This is straight up cope

There are other QBs that wouldn't have thrown a pick six, another pick, and a fumble in the biggest game of their career

But hey tell yourself whatever you want

ikr? That was a bad performance with all the turnovers before garbage time and all the eagles starters leaving the game.

[JohnnyHatesJazz]

Originally Posted by kipgen

If you're relying on garbage time stats (and for people in the future to forget they're garbage time when they look back and look at the box score for the game) to make your argument that Mahomes is better than Brady, I think you've already lost the argument

Agreed 100%, well said.

[HeyRelaxGuy]

Originally Posted by Leggo

If he were to of won… he would have been the first to three peat, but hey losing that game after the best 3 season stretch in NFL history tarnishes everything haha. Stupid haters man

Google up Bart Starr

[Icollectstuff]

Originally Posted by HeyRelaxGuy

Google up Bart Starr

What the person was thinking is first super bowl 3peat .... the first of starr's 3 championships in a row wasn't a super bowl...

If we go just on championships otto graham won 5 in a row

[MyckKabongo]

O-line gave up a 62% pressure rate, a record. Previous high was 55% in the other Mahomes SB loss.

[imbluestreak23]

Originally Posted by MyckKabongo

O-line gave up a 62% pressure rate, a record. Previous high was 55% in the other Mahomes SB loss.

That is absolutely insane.

But yeah, immobile Tom Brady and Joe Montana would have picked this team apart with all of that amazing time behind the pocket

[ObanMontecristo]

Maybe Patrick should switch to Allstate, to better protect him from mayhem

[sandyfrank]

Originally Posted by MyckKabongo

O-line gave up a 62% pressure rate, a record. Previous high was 55% in the other Mahomes SB loss.

Wow fantastic stat there, no wonder Patty had absolutely no time to do anything. Time to invest in O-Line Chiefs, they have let 2 superbowls get away with this terrible O-Line. Congrats to the Eagles, the better team tonight won. Losing in an attempt to become the first ever three peat Superbowl champ is not going to hurt his legacy, it is etched in Canton as one of the top 3 QBs of all time, with many great years ahead! BUY THE OVERREACTION DIP

[padremurph]

Originally Posted by slyguy

Yes, garbage time does count.

It might not be winnable at that point, but for someone like Pat (or Kelce), those yards and TDs at the end still do add to Mahomes gaining on TB12 marks (and cementing records against future younger QBs with all 17 and 18 game seasons, possible different playoff formats).

The bad OL play in big games against good teams kills basically any QB, though. And if you put almost any other QB on Earth onto KC 2024 team (with the injuries to both start WRs, start RB, OL, etc), they're not even going to make the playoffs - much less the SuperBowl. I'm amazed they won it in 2023 with all of the bad WR drops... but they did.

Whoa, where was this logic in the Shedeur thread?!?!?

Only Oline worse than the chiefs and CU was Ou….

[Icollectstuff]

I'm not a chiefs fan but mahomes legacy is safe...

Going in to this game just about everyone was saying the eagles had the better team... so why is the better team winning being treated like an upset? Because the chiefs have mahomes and that speaks to his greatness...

Mahomes covers and makes up for much of the chiefs weaknesses... I know all the talk of he had his 2 worst seasons back to back... it also can easily be argued the team around him is getting worse... so is it that mahomes at 29 is already regressing? Or is it that he has less help around him?

If I had to bet on it I'd bet that we haven't seen mahomes in his last super bowl...

And if he gets back and wins again people will talk less and less about tonight... I mean heck look at John elway he was on the losing end of 2 of the worst blowouts in super bowl history but his legacy is pretty strong.

[Dereth]

Originally Posted by imbluestreak23

That is absolutely insane.

But yeah, immobile Tom Brady and Joe Montana would have picked this team apart with all of that amazing time behind the pocket

Joe Montana was nowhere close to being an immobile QB.

[49erRCCollector]

Originally Posted by Dereth

Joe Montana was nowhere close to being an immobile QB.

Look up his 1989 game against the Eagles where they sacked him 8 times.

He won that game. That’s why he’s Joe Montana