WWE Discussion thread- Raw/SD/PPV

[Jaypers]

It's that time of year again.

AOP and Ellering released.

Cedric Alexander released.

Sonya Deville released.

Blair Davenport released.

[cdub6238]

Originally Posted by Jaypers

It's that time of year again.

AOP and Ellering released.

Cedric Alexander released.

Sonya Deville released.

What was the point of rvrn bringing AOP/Ellering back..their run wasn't very useful

Feel bad for Deville.

Shes never been the smoothest in the ring, but was decent talker...unfortunate things outside her control kept her away for awhile and add on a major injury not too long ago

[whitmm]

Originally Posted by Cracktoast

For Owens to have taken the beating he did and still show up on Raw 2 nights later and has a physical altercation with Zayn speaks volumes as to what kind of performer he is. If Rhodes gives a speech on SD then has limited appearances until WM like it looks like Reigns will as well IMO makes them both look like entitled little bitches.

Oh look, Cody has a match tonight.

[cdub6238]

Also..not sure how much was scripted...but LA Knight definitely didn't give any craps about Drew's "outburst" lol

[whitmm]

Blair Davenport is also being released.

[Cracktoast]

Originally Posted by whitmm

Oh look, Cody has a match tonight.

Originally Posted by Cracktoast

For Owens to have taken the beating he did and still show up on Raw 2 nights later and has a physical altercation with Zayn speaks volumes as to what kind of performer he is. If Rhodes gives a speech on SD then has limited appearances until WM like it looks like Reigns will as well IMO makes them both look like entitled little bitches.

Key word "IF" which was going off reports that were being given at the time. That said I still don't expect to see him wrestling on a weekly basis. Solo will attack him again next week probably giving him time to heal up whatever injuries he supposedly has.

[Cracktoast]

Also they need to quickly do something special with Bliss or she will quickly get lost in the mix. I get this was her first match back but that was rough to say the least and if nobody knew who she was they still wouldn't after her match tonight.

[whitmm]

Originally Posted by Cracktoast

Key word "IF" which was going off reports that were being given at the time. That said I still don't expect to see him wrestling on a weekly basis. Solo will attack him again next week probably giving him time to heal up whatever injuries he supposedly has.

Guess it speaks volumes as to what type of performer Cody is, right?

What Cody did was a lot more than KO's "physical altercation" Monday. And it's still yet to be seen if KO is going to be wrestling every week for the next two months. Reminder, your original comparison was KO for one night vs Cody for two months.

With Zayn out indefinitely, I don't expect to see KO wrestling on a weekly basis either. Bet he gets some time off to heal up whatever injuries he supposedly has.

[thenightman]

Originally Posted by Jaypers

It's that time of year again.

AOP and Ellering released.

Cedric Alexander released.

Sonya Deville released.

Blair Davenport released.

Cedric joining the Hurt Syndicate, obviously.

What was the point of AOP? I thought for sure they'd have won the tag belts during their run, but they were rarely used.

I'm surprised Davenport lasted as long as she did.

I have no idea what Sonya Deville will do next. I don't see her hitting the indies.

Ellering will probably live off that WWE Legends deal he'll get, if he doesn't have one already.

[Cracktoast]

WWE's handling of AOP both times is criminal. I remember when they were in NXT they were one of the hottest teams on the brand. If they can push DIY and Pretty Deadly there is no reason AOP shouldn't have been multiple times Tag Champs. Yes they are big and have like 2 moves but that's 99% of the WWE roster now days.

[Jaypers]

Isla Dawn just posted "see you in 90" on her IG, so she's gone too.

[JustinVerlander07]

I liked AOP coming up from their NXT run. Between injruies on the main roster and Vince being Vince felt like they got a raw deal. This time around I was optimistic, but they just fell flat, like they were just going through the motions.

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So is Charlotte a heel again? We're 1 week into her return and I can only wish to not see her on my TV again. She's just so awful, at least as a heel it's go away heat. If she's trying to be a babyface she's been awful at it for a decade, no reason to try it again now. She's a natural go away heel.

[cdub6238]

Originally Posted by whitmm

Blair Davenport is also being released.

I think they dropped the ball with her imo. They had her in NXT UK...but barely used her at all after it shutting down ..and barely used her at all after her call up

Shes not necessarily elite or anything...but different look and different style than the majority of women in WWE

Wonder if she'll end up back in AEW..where she was signed before Covid travel restrictions

Originally Posted by Jaypers

Isla Dawn just posted "see you in 90" on her IG, so she's gone too.

Never really got into her..she was fine, but the whole spooky witch thing in NXT was kinda meh..and she probably wouldn't have been called up if not for Fyre (KL Ray)

[packman80]

Clearing out the roster to make post WM callups?

[Jaypers]

Giovanni Vinci is out.

[Jaypers]

Good Brothers (Karl Anderson and Luke Gallows) are out.

[AwesomeBrian]

Originally Posted by Jaypers

Isla Dawn just posted "see you in 90" on her IG, so she's gone too.

Dammit. So weird, from tag champion to almost totally off TV in just a few months.

[cdub6238]

Originally Posted by packman80

Clearing out the roster to make post WM callups?

Who..though?

Roxanne is already confirmed...but what other females in NXT are ready? Fallon, Gigi and Jayce are the "vets" left..unless they call up Cora Jade which would be a mistake

Who on the men's side? Besides Trick, Page or Oba Femi..Lexis King?

Originally Posted by Jaypers

Giovanni Vinci is out.

Never understood this...he wasn't a very good talker, but always thought he was better wrestler than Kaiser..

Originally Posted by Jaypers

Good Brothers (Karl Anderson and Luke Gallows) are out.

Meh..they were only brought back and hung around so long as favors to Styles if we're honest

[Jericho]

Sucks so many people lost their jobs, but honestly non of them will be a big loss. Hopefully they can use Kay Lee Ray by herself now, although I wont be shocked if she's let go too unfortunately. Deville has been stealing money for yrs.

Smackdown was good I thought. Huge Charlotte fan, but she definitely needs to put on some weight, she's getting too thin IMO.

For someone who got such a big reaction at the Rumble, Bliss got very little response on SD. And she's still not very good in the ring. She's always been more character than anything. LeRae carried that match, sucks she isnt given something more to do.

Solo's back, and very few care. Guessing we get Solo/Jacob at Mania

[cdub6238]

Originally Posted by Jericho

Deville has been stealing money for yrs.

Care to clarify... because she missed 5 months of tv time due to being stalked/burglaries and almost kidnapped...and didn't feel comfortable wrestling again for another several months because of it..

Or..because she missed another 6 months due to injury right after winning the women's tag belts?

I mean she wasn't great or anything but she had a decent run prior to those...

To say she's been stealing money is extremely lame..

I'd say B Fab, Natalya, Mostly or hell Tamina have been stealing money more than her

[Jericho]

Originally Posted by cdub6238

Care to clarify... because she missed 5 months of tv time due to being stalked/burglaries and almost kidnapped...and didn't feel comfortable wrestling again for another several months because of it..

Or..because she missed another 6 months due to injury right after winning the women's tag belts?

I mean she wasn't great or anything but she had a decent run prior to those...

To say she's been stealing money is extremely lame..

I'd say B Fab, Natalya, Mostly or hell Tamina have been stealing money more than her

Not condoning being stalked at all, but she was crappy from the get go, and had no memorable matches. You Saying she had a decent run is being very generous. And if we're being honest, she probably would have been released a long time ago, if the stalking didnt happen. I agree with BFab, she just isnt good at all. Natalya actually helps many of the women with training and she still has good matches so I see zero problem with her still being there.

[thenightman]

Originally Posted by cdub6238

Who..though?

Fraxiom
Jakara Jackson and Lash Legend
Tatum Paxley and Gigi Dolin
Ethan Page
Jaida Parker
Kelani Jordan
Ridge Holland
Sol Ruca
Trick Williams
Wes Lee
Charlie Dempsey
Stephanie Vaquer

They're all pretty much ready to go.

[cdub6238]

Originally Posted by thenightman

Fraxiom
Jakara Jackson and Lash Legend
Tatum Paxley and Gigi Dolin
Ethan Page
Jaida Parker
Kelani Jordan
Ridge Holland
Sol Ruca
Trick Williams
Wes Lee
Charlie Dempsey
Stephanie Vaquer

They're all pretty much ready to go.

Would beg to differ on a majority of those..

Although I'll admit I haven't watched NXT in a long time, so could be wrong

Lash Legend was awful..

Paxley is decent, but she'd get lost and wouldn't really stand out

Ridge Holland got demoted..but he has main roster experience so maybe

Sol Ruca has always just been a flashy finisher..

They aren't calling Vaquer uo already..she legit just got to the company

[Cracktoast]

Originally Posted by thenightman

Fraxiom
Jakara Jackson and Lash Legend
Tatum Paxley and Gigi Dolin
Ethan Page
Jaida Parker
Kelani Jordan
Ridge Holland
Sol Ruca
Trick Williams
Wes Lee
Charlie Dempsey
Stephanie Vaquer

They're all pretty much ready to go.

From that list the only ones I have any interest in seeing on the main roster are

Lash Legend
Kelani Jordan
Ethan Page

Everyone else would end up wasted in no man's land and either end back up in NXT or get released down the road. That said knowing WWE they'll keep Lash in that stupid tag team with Jackson instead of letting her shine as a singles star. They will also likely stick Trick back with Melo and give them a tag title run or two of which in 3-5 yrs nobody will remember or care about once they have both been released.

[thenightman]

Originally Posted by cdub6238

Would beg to differ on a majority of those..

Although I'll admit I haven't watched NXT in a long time, so could be wrong

Lash Legend was awful..

Paxley is decent, but she'd get lost and wouldn't really stand out

Ridge Holland got demoted..but he has main roster experience so maybe

Sol Ruca has always just been a flashy finisher..

They aren't calling Vaquer uo already..she legit just got to the company

Originally Posted by Cracktoast

From that list the only ones I have any interest in seeing on the main roster are

Lash Legend
Kelani Jordan
Ethan Page

Everyone else would end up wasted in no man's land and either end back up in NXT or get released down the road. That said knowing WWE they'll keep Lash in that stupid tag team with Jackson instead of letting her shine as a singles star. They will also likely stick Trick back with Melo and give them a tag title run or two of which in 3-5 yrs nobody will remember or care about once they have both been released.

Whether you beg to differ or have any interest, these are people who have done about as much as they can do in NXT, or have already made appearances in WWE. They're ready to come up. What happens after that is moot.

If they have nothing for the people they released and they have ideas on what to do with any of the ones I listed, then they're going to go with the ones I listed. Even if they would just prefer the ones listed over who they released, that's enough of a reason to do what they did.

Nobody is truly hating that these characters will be gone. Sure, they feel bad for the people, as do I, but they don't care at all about the characters.