Luka traded to the Lakers

[spurs50fan]

I swear this is a move to get the fans back engaged. Makes no sense for the Mavs imo

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by HunterConnorMom

If this trade is about money, might see more of these in the future. Don’t think management wanted to give him another supermax contract at 350 million for 5 years this summer.

Probably played a role. And as a consequence, the supermax rules will be changed. Dallas just robbed Luka of $100M+, right?

[punctilious]

Did I just wake up in a parallel universe?

[2010GBPackers]

Most folks assessing this trade are too caught up in the superstar nature of Luka vs. AD and not their actual abilities on the court. The truth is, they are almost equally as valuable in different ways. I think the Mavs finally saw the writing on the wall that perhaps Luka has peaked and it's better to move and try to win now instead of sinking half-a-billion dollars more into the guy.

I think this makes the Mavs true contenders in the West this year and next. I'm really not sure what this does for the Lakers, though. They're a few years from contention with no real assets left. If it takes them 3-4 years to build a team, Luka will be approaching 30 years old. If Luka can't stay in shape during his physical prime, what will his 30+ seasons look like?

The Mavs fans may not like it now, but the trade makes sense IMO.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by 2010GBPackers

Most folks assessing this trade are too caught up in the superstar nature of Luka vs. AD and not their actual abilities on the court. The truth is, they are almost equally as valuable in different ways. I think the Mavs finally saw the writing on the wall that perhaps Luka has peaked and it's better to move and try to win now instead of sinking half-a-billion dollars more into the guy.

I think this makes the Mavs true contenders in the West this year and next. I'm really not sure what this does for the Lakers, though. They're a few years from contention with no real assets left. If it takes them 3-4 years to build a team, Luka will be approaching 30 years old. If Luka can't stay in shape during his physical prime, what will his 30+ seasons look like.

The Mavs fans may not like it now, but the trade makes sense IMO.

How far do you see the Mavs making it this year?

How far do you see the Mavs making it next year after Kyrie opts out?

[TSonn]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

Who thinks this makes no sense for LA?

I think it makes business sense for LAL long term. Will be curious to see if they can build a team around him with the depleted assets because of GM Lebron.

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[bigjbasketball]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

Who thinks this makes no sense for LA?

Not going to quote every comment but multiple in this thread saying things like they can’t understand why LA would do this.

[dkcardman]

there is so much to unpack with this trade.
Do Mavs know something no one else does? Setting aside if this trade makes basketball sense for either team, here is where I am scratching my head...
Luka is arguably the most trade valuable player in the NBA. They get another injury prone older guy and a seemingly useless pick? The question for them is what could you have gotten??? This is just BAD management. Your responsibility is to maximize return if you do this.
Regardless if Luka wasn't going to resign, or you felt you'd lose him, or you just don't like him, get all you can in return!

[PKIPP]

I still wouldn’t have traded Luka. But like if you look at Dallas, everyone in their starting lineup production has basically doubled since Luka has been out (kyrie only up like 1 point). They’re playing team basketball and have a better record without Luka. Imagine you’re that kind of team and then the injured fat guy who reeks or entitlement and whines all day and plays “let me cook” ball comes back and now you’re touching the ball every 3 possessions.

Again, I still wouldn’t have done it. But I can understand it. AD will be a very nice addition.


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[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by SleeperCards

I was literally going to PM you and ask you how you felt about it lol. Do you still have a Luka stash?

I do but it isn't as big as it used to be.
I was at the Houston Tristar show yesterday and saw a ton of Luka. I imagine all of those prices were getting changed overnight.

[2010GBPackers]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

How far do you see the Mavs making it this year?

How far do you see the Mavs making it next year after Kyrie opts out?

I can see them fighting for the 3-5 seed both years. I'm not saying this makes them the favorites in the West, but I also don't think this sinks their chances at another WCF.

It's clear that the Mavs (who know everything about him after a 7-year marriage) have major reservations about the guy. And it's funny that so many people who overlook that fact are so "shocked" by this trade. When an NBA team trades a 25-year-old superstar, my first thought isn't "what idiots!", my first thought is, "what do they know that no one else does?"

[Scottish Punk]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

How far do you see the Mavs making it this year?

How far do you see the Mavs making it next year after Kyrie opts out?

If Kyrie opts out, Mavs really only have two more years of an old and probably less motivated AD. Would have to trade him and flip for picks.

LA entire roster is either expiring this year or next. That is with Lebron opting in for his last year. Wouldn't it be wild if Kyrie opts out to join Lakers next year and Lebron resigns for a cheaper deal? None of other leagues have their top players move as much as the NBA.

This whole trade really comes down to the Mavs not trusting Luka going forward and paying him super max. Fascinating to see if Luka is motivated to get in shape now.

[yoyosh]

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

I do but it isn't as big as it used to be.
I was at the Houston Tristar show yesterday and saw a ton of Luka. I imagine all of those prices were getting changed overnight.

Up or down tho?

[Bosoxfan5990]

Originally Posted by 2010GBPackers

I can see them fighting for the 3-5 seed both years. I'm not saying this makes them the favorites in the West, but I also don't think this sinks their chances at another WCF.

It's clear that the Mavs (who know everything about him after a 7-year marriage) have major reservations about the guy. And it's funny that so many people who overlook that fact are so "shocked" by this trade. When an NBA team trades a 25-year-old superstar, my first thought isn't "what idiots!", my first thought is, "what do they know that no one else does?"

The reaction can be both, when they literally get back 60 cents on the dollar. I'd be interested to hear how many other teams knew Luka was available, especially with the Mavs initiating with the Lakers.

[SaveMeTheGum]

I've been saying for years -- Luka is an all-time talent, but doesn't take basketball seriously. He's out of shape, and that leads to breaking down and injuries. He could go down as a top 5 ever, but he just doesn't care.

[punctilious]

worst. trade. ever.

[rhigh2390]

Originally Posted by PKIPP

I still wouldn’t have traded Luka. But like if you look at Dallas, everyone in their starting lineup production has basically doubled since Luka has been out (kyrie only up like 1 point). They’re playing team basketball and have a better record without Luka. Imagine you’re that kind of team and then the injured fat guy who reeks or entitlement and whines all day and plays “let me cook” ball comes back and now you’re touching the ball every 3 possessions.

Again, I still wouldn’t have done it. But I can understand it. AD will be a very nice addition.


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Where are you getting that they have a better record without Luka 13-14 without him, 13-9 with.

[BackToWax]

Adam Silver is no David Stern. Forcing this for the ratings bump is a band-aid solution that's gonna backfire long term.

[rhigh2390]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

Yea the Lakers clearly won this trade unless the Mavs FO somehow has insider info that Luka is just so out of shape he’s gonna end up like Zion and just perpetually miss time

The Lakers got a perennial MVP candidate who’s only 25 and they should have no problem resigning him in 3 years.

Unless the Mavs flip AD after this season for like 5 1sts I have no idea how they come back from this move. It’s just insane this trade was made

You couldn’t even do this in 2K

Agreed. There simply has to be something that happened or is happening behind the scenes. It makes zero sense for Dallas. All the sense in the world for LA. They no longer have to worry about the post-lebron years, and they can still compete now.

Again, absolute zero sense for Dallas

[Bosoxfan5990]

Originally Posted by BackToWax

Adam Silver is no David Stern. Forcing this for the ratings bump is a band-aid solution that's gonna backfire long term.

Why can't they block this trade like they blocked CP3 to LAL?

[PKIPP]

Originally Posted by rhigh2390

Where are you getting that they have a better record without Luka 13-14 without him, 13-9 with.

Oops. Pistons broadcast failed me. Played Mavs the other night and they said that. Might’ve been they had a better record with only kyrie than only Luka? Or something else.

George Blaha is like 90 so maybe that’s the problem.


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[packman80]

Was there bad blood going on in back between Dallas and Luka that this traded happened and that Luka had just been quite about wanting a trade out of Dallas?

[Gem10collection]

bad trade but is Luka just another James Harden, Westbrook, Dame in Portland, Beal on the Wizards, etc etc etc?

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by PKIPP

They’re playing team basketball and have a better record without Luka.

I see 13-9 with and 13-14 without.

[Asian62150]

Originally Posted by Bosoxfan5990

The reaction can be both, when they literally get back 60 cents on the dollar. I'd be interested to hear how many other teams knew Luka was available, especially with the Mavs initiating with the Lakers.

According to Shams, the Mavs specifically targeted AD and said he was the one player they would take for Luka. I have a hard time believing that they're dumb if they wouldn't have taken Wemby for Luka but it's almost unrealistic for that deal to happen because of salaries.

I don't think many other teams knew though bc if they did, it would have gotten out somehow, someway. This deal pretty much blindsided everyone, including the players involved.