Why is Zach Edey so bad?

[rustywest]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

My track record of picking players both positive and negative on here is damn near perfect… not because I’m some amazing basketball mind, but because the average person on BO either doesn’t watch at all, or has no clue what they are watching

Your ego, your arrogance is one of the reasons I don't bother to contribute anything anymore on blowout. Just look at the pure basketball boards, it's you and about 3 other people. It's not because we don't watch basketball, that's from my perspective anyway.

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by LondonGames

I honestly read the entire first page, and the only "points" I saw you make were:

Boban is 7'4 too (stated twice)
Completely useless outside of 3 ft
he looks good because this draft is bad

Did I miss something? I honestly have zero clue how you can expect anyone to address the points that you made. You didn't make any real coherent ones that anyone could take seriously or respond to directly. He’s too slow to recover and gives up open 3 after open 3

If you think you did, state them clearly. Leave out all the BS about you having a perfect track record and to watch games.

Saying "no one on BO watches games" is about as childish as it gets. You instantly lose all credibility after such statements.

You conveniently ignored my entire post in response to you

I’m SHOCKED

— I said multiple times how he just gets constantly put in high PnR because he plays the deepest drop in the entire league. Nobody can refute that because it’s absolutely true.

— He is completely ignored by opposing defenses when he is outside of the paint.

— He has no playmaking or ball handling ability which limits his offense to lobs and catches deep in the post.

— He turns the ball over a concerning amount of times for someone who has such a low usage rate

— He can’t guard anyone on the perimeter because he has incredibly poor hip mobility. Just watch him attempt to change direction when someone crosses him off the dribble.

— He is frequently too slow getting back in transition and gives up easy dunks and layups when he man beats him down the floor

I hope this is straight enough to the point for you. I won’t hold my breath waiting for someone to refute any of this with film because it’s all objectively true.

[jcardstore]

double post

[MasonAsher]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

You conveniently ignored my entire post in response to you

I’m SHOCKED

— I said multiple times how he just gets constantly put in high PnR because he plays the deepest drop in the entire league. Nobody can refute that because it’s absolutely true.

— He is completely ignored by opposing defenses when he is outside of the paint.

— He has no playmaking or ball handling ability which limits his offense to lobs and catches deep in the post.

— He turns the ball over a concerning amount of times for someone who has such a low usage rate

— He can’t guard anyone on the perimeter because he has incredibly poor hip mobility. Just watch him attempt to change direction when someone crosses him off the dribble.

— He is frequently too slow getting back in transition and gives up easy dunks and layups when he man beats him down the floor

I hope this is straight enough to the point for you. I won’t hold my breath waiting for someone to refute any of this with film because it’s all objectively true.

LOL. A rookie who is getting up to speed of the NBA. The absolute horror.

Seriously, why do you hate the guy so much?

A center who struggles to guard the perimeter - SHOCKED
A center who gets back down the floor slower after a foot injury - SHOCKED
A center with not a lot of playmaking ability - SHOCKED

Completely ignored by opposing defenses out of the paint? He's shooting 42% from the perimeter so I suspect that will change if he hits 40+%.

I legit posted a thread of videos showing reviews of his defense. I'm confident you just skipped over those. literally no one is saying he is useless besides you.

This is a great example of terrible change of direction and hip mobility during a crossover. https://x.com/grizzzlam/status/1877546562483531971

You are so smart. Praise your ball knowledge and your ego brother.

[Hail2TheVictors]

Originally Posted by rustywest

Your ego, your arrogance is one of the reasons I don't bother to contribute anything anymore on blowout. Just look at the pure basketball boards, it's you and about 3 other people. It's not because we don't watch basketball, that's from my perspective anyway.

You nailed it. Well said.

[jcardstore]

Anyone watch Edey get torched on defense against Houston? No?

Can’t wait to bump this gem of a thread in 2 years

[jcardstore]

Jenkins actually tried letting Edey switch instead of playing drop and it was even worse, were there no Twitter highlights to show from that game other than him getting decimated?

[MasonAsher]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

Anyone watch Edey get torched on defense against Houston? No?

Can’t wait to bump this gem of a thread in 2 years

You’re weird and obsessive dude. I’m done in here because you can’t even hold a conversation about anything. Imagine being so pent up about something in your life that you have to dog on a rookie who has missed a month with an injury and still getting up to speed. His defense wasn’t atrocious yesterday.

WaTcH the GaME - you’re weird.

I can see why everyone else is in the thread saying that you’ve driven them out of the forum because you are so egotistical.

Imagine being someone that dogs on the DEFENSE OF NBA PLAYERS repeatedly.

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by MasonAsher

You’re weird and obsessive dude. I’m done in here because you can’t even hold a conversation about anything. Imagine being so pent up about something in your life that you have to dog on a rookie who has missed a month with an injury and still getting up to speed. His defense wasn’t atrocious yesterday.

WaTcH the GaME - you’re weird.

I can see why everyone else is in the thread saying that you’ve driven them out of the forum because you are so egotistical.

Imagine being someone that dogs on the DEFENSE OF NBA PLAYERS repeatedly.

just doing my part

it sure is hard being so right all the time

[jcardstore]

I guess actually watching NBA games to observe how the players play defense is weird on these boards

[Hail2TheVictors]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

Jenkins actually tried letting Edey switch instead of playing drop and it was even worse, were there no Twitter highlights to show from that game other than him getting decimated?

Did Edey boink your sister or something?

Your posting is borderline obsessive.

This is such a perfect example of why Blowout Forums has gone down the drain. So many people actively rooting for players to fail. It's pathetic. No one ITT is hyping Edey to be some star - people have responded to the OP (and you) by saying that he's shown some promise, he's a rookie, give him time, and that this draft class is weak.

Yet here you are posting ITT about a specific play defensively from a game 2 nights ago. Going to try and make it your mission to "prove" yourself right by obsessing over hoping that a guy fails.

[jcardstore]

Zach Edey's "not atrocious" defense

primary defender on 16 shots (most opponent shots taken against out of any grizzly player I wonder why)

Opponents made 7 of those shots. He gave up 20 points if you add his defensive fouls. That's 20 points given up by Edey in 10 minutes of defensive game time

I know I'm not very good at math, but that seems like an 18 point differential if you subtract the points he scored

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by Hail2TheVictors

Did Edey boink your sister or something?

Your posting is borderline obsessive.

This is such a perfect example of why Blowout Forums has gone down the drain. So many people actively rooting for players to fail. It's pathetic. No one ITT is hyping Edey to be some star - people have responded to the OP (and you) by saying that he's shown some promise, he's a rookie, give him time, and that this draft class is weak.

Yet here you are posting ITT about a specific play defensively from a game 2 nights ago. Going to try and make it your mission to "prove" yourself right by obsessing over hoping that a guy fails.

1) I am right, and have provided plenty of proof, and yet people like Mason continue to argue.

2) I don't care if Edey is successful or fails. I am pointing out the reality of how he is playing and projecting that into the future.

People can't refute what I am saying so attack me personally instead. That's the cost of being right I guess

[MasonAsher]

Originally Posted by Hail2TheVictors

Did Edey boink your sister or something?

Your posting is borderline obsessive.

This is such a perfect example of why Blowout Forums has gone down the drain. So many people actively rooting for players to fail. It's pathetic. No one ITT is hyping Edey to be some star - people have responded to the OP (and you) by saying that he's shown some promise, he's a rookie, give him time, and that this draft class is weak.

Yet here you are posting ITT about a specific play defensively from a game 2 nights ago. Going to try and make it your mission to "prove" yourself right by obsessing over hoping that a guy fails.

Seriously, no one has said he’s great. No one has even said that he’s the top rookie here. No one has said he’s going to be great. Dude is just arguing in circles with himself at this point lol

Saying a player is useless because he’s getting up to speed defensively in the NBA is kinda funny considering that defense is so good in the NBA.

[Sticks33]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

1) I am right, and have provided plenty of proof, and yet people like Mason continue to argue.

2) I don't care if Edey is successful or fails. I am pointing out the reality of how he is playing and projecting that into the future.

People can't refute what I am saying so attack me personally instead. That's the cost of being right I guess

Anyone who uses “” and “” as much as you do deserves to be ignored. Are you 12?

More egregious is your complete disregard for the great points others have made in this thread. I know you don’t acknowledge them because they don’t fit your narrative and that you think you’re the smartest in the room but try really thinking about what others say. You may learn something.

[ThatGuyPal]

The funniest thing about all this to me is jcard didn't even start this thread lol

[tennelson55]

Originally Posted by Hail2TheVictors

This is such a perfect example of why Blowout Forums has gone down the drain. So many people actively rooting for players to fail. It's pathetic.

This x100.

Now there's levels to upping a player who might be trash, but the hate on a single player/soloing out someone is crazy.

I'm not an Edy hater but he does seem a bit "lanky." We'll see over time.

[Noles939913]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

My track record of picking players both positive and negative on here is damn near perfect… not because I’m some amazing basketball mind, but because the average person on BO either doesn’t watch at all, or has no clue what they are watching

You’re selling yourself short big man. Anyone with a near 100% success rate is absolutely an amazing basketball mind damn near genius some might say. Why no NBA or even college teams haven’t reached out to you for your services is beyond me. You should be making an absolute killing in the hobby at the very least. If not your true talents are going to waste.

[hxcmilkshake]

You all lost me at "NBA" and "defense"

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[Retired hobbist]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

If you’re 7’4” and not shooting 12 three pointers a game you’re useless in today’s trash nba.

Never a finer point was spoken...

[BoSoxFan1999]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

You conveniently ignored my entire post in response to you

I’m SHOCKED

— I said multiple times how he just gets constantly put in high PnR because he plays the deepest drop in the entire league. Nobody can refute that because it’s absolutely true.

— He is completely ignored by opposing defenses when he is outside of the paint.

— He has no playmaking or ball handling ability which limits his offense to lobs and catches deep in the post.

— He turns the ball over a concerning amount of times for someone who has such a low usage rate

— He can’t guard anyone on the perimeter because he has incredibly poor hip mobility. Just watch him attempt to change direction when someone crosses him off the dribble.

— He is frequently too slow getting back in transition and gives up easy dunks and layups when he man beats him down the floor

I hope this is straight enough to the point for you. I won’t hold my breath waiting for someone to refute any of this with film because it’s all objectively true.

This is why Clingan is a much better prospect despite Edey having a superior college career.

[Bosoxfan5990]

Edey > Wemby

[Kingofkings1281]

Originally Posted by Bosoxfan5990

Edey > Wemby

Here comes jcardstore to give you a power point presentation on why Edey is the worst human being to ever live. He’s NEVER wrong.

[jmmintz]

Without getting too deep into the weeds in this thread's name-calling, a few things from a Memphian, former season ticket holder (having teenagers made going to games to hard), and someone who's watched as much or more Grizzlies games than anyone on Blowout, here's my "expert" take

1) I hated the pick on draft night. It was a reach.
2) His defensive ability is not as bad as the worst comments on this thread, and not as good as the best. Statistically he has been a better perimeter defender than he has been from shots 6' and closer. He has been more mobile than expected.
3) Any development was curbed by two things:
- His time missed
- Taylor Jenkins' janky-@$$ rotations. We currently have NINE guys playing 20+ minutes a game, and that doesn't include Marcus Smart who I'm leaving out because he's only played 18 games. That also doesn't include Brandon Clarke who is averaging just under 20. It's hard for guys to get in any sort of rhythm - especially when you're an NBA rookie - when you have zero idea whether you'll play 5 minutes or 30 minutes on a given night.

Bottom line is that in today's NBA, if you're drafting a guy in the top 10 he needs to be able to make a nightly impact at some point, and I don't see Edey ever being that guy unless the game drastically changes. We especially don't want to have to sit a high draft pick on the bench in meaningful late season minutes, and that's where Edey will be.

But is he as bad as some people on here say? Absolutely not.

[jcardstore]

The his thread has been a breath of fresh air. Finally something entertaining on these boards.

It’s been a good while since I had to fight the entire board on something. Was beginning to think people didn’t even look at box scores anymore!

BO box score watchers unite! Besides edeys #1 fan Mr Asher the guy above none of you have even watched Edey play you’re just in here to pile on to the personal attacks which is what makes this even better.

Keep it coming guys!