Skybox 2024 1992 MM Platinum

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by GFD18

I'm still hunting. Just need ONE more now. Anyone have one gathering digital dust? I have a Wolverine or Venom base (locked, so just ask and i can send the trade your way)
I'm: GFD18

imo the trade value is between $3 and $5, but some people still think they can get $20-$40 value on a digital spidey

Wow 1 away, hope you land it. If I bought any ePack of this at all, I’d help, but alas did not.

The bolded sounds like the epack I’m used to.

[LittleJimmies]

Originally Posted by GFD18

I'm still hunting. Just need ONE more now. Anyone have one gathering digital dust? I have a Wolverine or Venom base (locked, so just ask and i can send the trade your way)
I'm: GFD18

imo the trade value is between $3 and $5, but some people still think they can get $20-$40 value on a digital spidey

No way. Mini boxes are selling for $50-60 and base are only becoming scarcer. $20 trade value is much more realistic that $3-$5.

[Kobefan]

Originally Posted by Spacemanspif

man... where are you getting these boxes from? based on estimated print run, as well as a lot of personal experience lighting money on fire, the hits /100 or lower are about 1:4 boxes, so you crushed it yet again with pulling very short print cards in a limited amount of boxes

Am I allowed to name one of the big 3 retailers on this forum? I opened in their popup store in NYC. In a way, I did open the good hits at around 1 in 4 boxes, both, the lava and the PMG blue came out of the same box.

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

Edit: re: Kobefan

I’d say you’re still way above the odds. I just watched a live 18-box hobby case break this morning and it had 1 gold seismic, 1 blue PMG, and 0 orange lavas. So to get that in 5 boxes is quite remarkable. The only hobby I bought in this release was a lot of 3 hobby boxes (at expensive presale), and got nothing better than a few pink lasers and one red wave. One of the biggest value hits I took in this hobby in recent memory, if not ever. $950 for like 30 bucks worth of cards on comc.

This set is no different than others and people are ripping for exactly the reason you state, to get a miraculous Spidey, Wolverine, Venom, Psylocke 1/1. Ok maybe the terrible expected return, even for wax standards, is a little different from some other sets. I do think opening wax is quite irrational for 92MM, either hobby or blasters (this coming someone who opened plenty). Blasters are even worse value now that reg purple crystals have all but plummeted (not surprising being /750 - /1000ish), and even purple variant singles not going for that much.

The chances of getting a 1/1 at all is like 1 in 32 hobby cases- this number is astounding, picture 32 cases lined up in a room, that’s what it takes. I’ve watched many breaks to date and have not seen one pulled live. If to pull one is 1 in 32 cases (market price like 80 thousand dollars), you can do the math what it is to pull a particular character…that’s a devil of a bargain trying to bust wax for one character’s 1/1..in short not worth it! With 3 possible Surfer 1/1s out there, it’s possible at least 1 may hit the market.

Ps- you should rainbow that Lizard at this point

I noticed the rarity of pulling 1/1 from breaks as well. I have joined 5 breaks so far and have seen many others, none of the breaks pulled a 1/1, and of my surfer breaks, my best ones barely cover 50% of the break price. What drives me crazy is that only one I failed to win the surfer spot (my first break ever) because I thought paying $80-$90 for a surfer spot is too much, ends up pulling a PMG green.

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by Kobefan

Am I allowed to name one of the big 3 retailers on this forum? I opened in their popup store in NYC. In a way, I did open the good hits at around 1 in 4 boxes, both, the lava and the PMG blue came out of the same box.

I noticed the rarity of pulling 1/1 from breaks as well. I have joined 5 breaks so far and have seen many others, none of the breaks pulled a 1/1, and of my surfer breaks, my best ones barely cover 50% of the break price. What drives me crazy is that only one I failed to win the surfer spot (my first break ever) because I thought paying $80-$90 for a surfer spot is too much, ends up pulling a PMG green.

Considering it’s a pop up store in NY, I think we have a good guess of who it is. Which interestingly is the same place I preordered my dud hobby boxes from, so goes to show it can be anything with these places, up or down, just random.

That’s a gut punch regarding the Surfer green PMG. Breaks can be frustrating. I’m certainly no break person, but made some exceptions with these being the last MM sets (this and MM24), prices being so high, and still wanting to enjoy them. You being after Surfer the most by far makes character case breaks quite logical.

I have two frustrating stories of breaks myself from recently- not in this set but in the MM24 Grego set. First was a 6-box half case break and my spot was Iceman (love the art on it)….of course in my half of the case it’s just like a couple base Iceman, and in the other half of the case (the other spot for a 6-boxer which I didn’t buy), a Grego auto Iceman /10. In a second example…I was bidding on the uncut sheet redemption spot for a Grego MM24 6-box break and got outbid, went for like $125 or something. Annnnd…the redemption was hit. My motto for breaks…especially ones that are a split case….”Whatever is the worst case scenario…expect it”.

[Kobefan]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

Considering it’s a pop up store in NY, I think we have a good guess of who it is. Which interestingly is the same place I preordered my dud hobby boxes from, so goes to show it can be anything with these places, up or down, just random.

That’s a gut punch regarding the Surfer green PMG. Breaks can be frustrating. I’m certainly no break person, but made some exceptions with these being the last MM sets (this and MM24), prices being so high, and still wanting to enjoy them. You being after Surfer the most by far makes character case breaks quite logical.

I have two frustrating stories of breaks myself from recently- not in this set but in the MM24 Grego set. First was a 6-box half case break and my spot was Iceman (love the art on it)….of course in my half of the case it’s just like a couple base Iceman, and in the other half of the case (the other spot for a 6-boxer which I didn’t buy), a Grego auto Iceman /10. In a second example…I was bidding on the uncut sheet redemption spot for a Grego MM24 6-box break and got outbid, went for like $125 or something. Annnnd…the redemption was hit. My motto for breaks…especially ones that are a split case….”Whatever is the worst case scenario…expect it”.

That sucks, I wonder if these kinds of situations with breaks happen often, or are we just unlucky. About going for the Lizard rainbow, I think I'll pass on it. My 1/1 is a cover variant, that seismic gold is not, so either way, I would need to get lots of hard to find cards on a character I don't have much interest on.

[Spacemanspif]

Yeah it always seems to happen that way. I owned the spot in the break before and after this card, which later sold for $108k

[worldtravel00]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

An uncirculated surfer Holofoil I got from COMC (sheesh lol).

Yea I think any Holofoil originating from epack will probably look like this on the top/bottom centering.



I’m not exactly much of a grader, but I think these Holofoils will be rare breeds to find in a PSA 10. Like to the point of scarce. The ones in physical tend to have busted up corners or edge chipping…and the ones on ePack will have the terrible centering.

I can confirm my epack holofoils were off centered severely from top to bottom (literally no bottom) as yours.


I have to see if UD customer service will replace them.

[GFD18]

Originally Posted by LittleJimmies

No way. Mini boxes are selling for $50-60 and base are only becoming scarcer. $20 trade value is much more realistic that $3-$5.

I got my Kaleidoscope completed and never paid $20 trade value per digital. But thanks for the negativity

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by worldtravel00

I can confirm my epack holofoils were off centered severely from top to bottom (literally no bottom) as yours.


I have to see if UD customer service will replace them.

Yea it's a bummer. Unfortunately it appears they are all like that from ePack. It does look severe..as orion pointed out it's more like 77/23ish top bottom.

Cant say if UD will do anything or not- worth a try but they are awfully stingy and they'll probably say it's technically not damage or something. Also if they are replacing these it's like 15k-25k cards to replace (or whatever sum total of epack holofoils is), Im not sure how they're gonna do that

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by Spacemanspif

Yeah it always seems to happen that way. I owned the spot in the break before and after this card, which later sold for $108k

Wow….thats on another level. I think I’m learning a lesson here…avoid breaks. (Of course my stance would be different if I happened to hit that uncut sheet…it’s just bad luck).

[Watchmee]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

... I think I’m learning a lesson here…avoid breaks.

... unless you like extra salt in the wound

[Kobefan]

Just received the cards from my surfer spot breaks, here's what I paid and what I got:

This break, I paid about $60, including taxes and fees, it includes 4 base, 1 variant, 2 corner boxes, 1 canvas, 2 clear cut, a pink laser variant and a throw in of retail pack:
IMG_9493 by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/144733631@N03/]

This break, I paid about $77, including taxes and fees, it includes 4 bases, 1 variant, 1 corner box, 1 clear cut, 1 canvas, 1 rainbow, 1 holofoil, and 1 pink laser:
IMG_9494 by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/144733631@N03/]

[DynaEtch]

Heckuva Surfer haul. If it wasn’t for COMC tanking a lot of these prices, it would have been decent enough value. Holofoil is a solid hit

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

Yea it's a bummer. Unfortunately it appears they are all like that from ePack. It does look severe..as orion pointed out it's more like 77/23ish top bottom.

Cant say if UD will do anything or not- worth a try but they are awfully stingy and they'll probably say it's technically not damage or something. Also if they are replacing these it's like 15k-25k cards to replace (or whatever sum total of epack holofoils is), Im not sure how they're gonna do that

I've only ever sent in for my cards one time from Epack, and that was a long time ago. On cards that are unnumbered like Holofoils, do you get the exact card shown in your account, or is the card just an example? I'm hoping I get this exact one, because it seems pretty well centered, top to bottom anyway.

[finfangfan]

Originally Posted by jdandns

I've only ever sent in for my cards one time from Epack, and that was a long time ago. On cards that are unnumbered like Holofoils, do you get the exact card shown in your account, or is the card just an example? I'm hoping I get this exact one, because it seems pretty well centered, top to bottom anyway.

For unnumbered they just do bulk scans. If you click on COMC link you can see the stock images. The non-stock images are the ones people paid $2 for to get a unique scan for (which can only be done after card is transferred off of ePack…

https://www.comc.com/Cards/Marvel/20...erine/27135256

Here is the stock image one on COMC which should be the same as yours but with watermark.

[jdandns]

OK, thanks, that's what I was wondering. I'm going to send in for it pretty soon, so with that in mind, I'll expect OC, and be happy if it somehow isn't.

[finfangfan]

Originally Posted by jdandns

OK, thanks, that's what I was wondering. I'm going to send in for it pretty soon, so with that in mind, I'll expect OC, and be happy if it somehow isn't.

Everything is physically stored at COMC. So you can transfer to COMC and request the $2 elite scan if you just want to see if it’s centered or not. If it turns out it is well centered you can even sub to PSA directly from COMC.

[DynaEtch]

Yea finfang covered it all…it’s uncirculated stock image and I would expect it with 99.97% chance to be very off center. Simply because I haven’t seen a single Holofoil originating from epack thats not off center to this point.

[Kobefan]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

Heckuva Surfer haul. If it wasn’t for COMC tanking a lot of these prices, it would have been decent enough value. Holofoil is a solid hit

Thanks, but it meant to highlight my journey into surfer breaks and how bad of value it was. Received too many base surfer cards, if this was epack, I could have combined them; there will be more to come.

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by Kobefan

Thanks, but it meant to highlight my journey into surfer breaks and how bad of value it was. Received too many base surfer cards, if this was epack, I could have combined them; there will be more to come.

For sure. That’s the story of the breaks I did with 92MM Plat….bunch of base and variant covers, canvas blah blah. Maybe one pink laser. In a whole case. Well the one time in a break I actually got a PMG red of my character, it was totally busted and bent. Now thats my typical luck shining through…haha

[Swipe79]

Trying to finish two last Kaleidoscopes - if anyone happens to have mini-boxes or base of #10 - Adam Warlock (Apocalypse) (X2) or #36 Green Goblin (X2) for trade - let me know. I have a bunch of MM92 boxes we could swap or if you see something else you like.

[Kobefan]

Have anybody ever opened a box with multiple packs and every pack has one of the same card? I have. Talking about collation, every pack in about 2 boxes of this product, I pulled an adam warlock card in the last card slot, and in other boxes, I pulled an adam warlock card at around 75% of the packs, at the same slot. So, either UD made alot more of Adam Warlock cards or some you folks are going to be seeing fewer of his cards pulled, cause they're here: IMG_9500 by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/144733631@N03/]

Now, where is the option to combine them?

[DynaEtch]

Holy cow…lol. No have not done that.

It’s funny because I just saw a post on Reddit…someone opened a box and there was a Warlock in every of the 12 packs.

This suggests maybe it’s just something with Warlock, and probably Apocalypse too. It’s probably connected to the error. Maybe UD noticed the error then inserted a ton of corrected versions into the run or something?

[DynaEtch]

Can you imagine if a case was like that (18 boxes * 12 packs = 216 Warlocks). If you bought into a case break of that for the Warlock spot, the base alone would more than pay for the spot.

Edit: what are you going to do with them?

[Kobefan]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

Holy cow…lol. No have not done that.

It’s funny because I just saw a post on Reddit…someone opened a box and there was a Warlock in every of the 12 packs.

This suggests maybe it’s just something with Warlock, and probably Apocalypse too. It’s probably connected to the error. Maybe UD noticed the error then inserted a ton of corrected versions into the run or something?

May be true, since only 5 of them are error versions, the rest are the corrected warlock cards.

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

Can you imagine if a case was like that (18 boxes * 12 packs = 216 Warlocks). If you bought into a case break of that for the Warlock spot, the base alone would more than pay for the spot.

Edit: what are you going to do with them?

I did open a case, will post my hits later, but not all are warlock. I don't know what to do with those base cards, make a few base sets to sell online, that's all. I don't think a warlock base card can be sold individually, so even if someone receives 216 warlock cards in a break, I don't think it'll pay for the spot.