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Old 01-12-2025, 08:56 PM   #226
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Seeing the parallels list and the new gold rainbow foil /50, it appears that Topps killed the unnumbered gold foils in Jumbo boxes. I usually prefer Jumbos; not for the guaranteed auto, but for the higher floor due to the five gold foils per.

Has anyone seen or heard anything different? This should tip the scale to hobby boxes for me outside of any major parallel odds differences.
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Old 01-12-2025, 08:58 PM   #227
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Might as well just call this Topps Chrome Paper. Or maybe Topps Paper Chrome. I can’t decide which sounds cooler.
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Old 01-12-2025, 11:14 PM   #228
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I don't believe any of those guys has a source with that type of inside knowledge. We still don't know anything.
It is very possible someone inside Topps is making the same assumption everyone else is based on what has been released so far. I doubt those guys know any real decision makers. Or maybe they do. We will find out soon enough.
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Old 01-13-2025, 05:58 AM   #229
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It is very possible someone inside Topps is making the same assumption everyone else is based on what has been released so far. I doubt those guys know any real decision makers. Or maybe they do. We will find out soon enough.
Agreed. That was my point, to. I'm not doubting Jeff or trying to be a jerk. Just that "sources", even those who work for Topps, might not have the accurate information they claim to have. Unless you know a decision-maker at Topps, you know nothing.
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Old 01-13-2025, 06:13 AM   #230
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Anyone preordering today?
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Old 01-13-2025, 06:23 AM   #231
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Agreed. That was my point, too. I'm not doubting Jeff or trying to be a jerk. Just that "sources", even those who work for Topps, might not have the accurate information they claim to have. Unless you know a decision-maker at Topps, you know nothing.
Define “decision-maker”.
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Old 01-13-2025, 06:42 AM   #232
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Anyone preordering today?
If there is any Hobby or Jumbo left when I get off work maybe but only if the odds are posted. No odds then I'll wait

However I'm sure if the odds are posted and the paper blacks aren't on it there will be plenty since everyone is quitting the hobby if they aren't.
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Old 01-13-2025, 09:04 AM   #233
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Define “decision-maker”.
I'll define decision-maker when he reveals the position of his source. Otherwise, we are all just guessing as to what value this information even has. We are just left to trust that this person actually has accurate information. I'm not quite willing to do that. If we have a source, then we can begin to dig into whether they are a "decision-maker" for the purposes of having actual knowledge of what went into the product. Lots of employees get to be in the know for many stages of product development. Sometimes they think they know something that was later changed by those who can make decisions. I'm not willing to take this unknown source as accurate without knowing more.
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Old 01-13-2025, 09:27 AM   #234
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I'll define decision-maker when he reveals the position of his source. Otherwise, we are all just guessing as to what value this information even has. We are just left to trust that this person actually has accurate information. I'm not quite willing to do that. If we have a source, then we can begin to dig into whether they are a "decision-maker" for the purposes of having actual knowledge of what went into the product. Lots of employees get to be in the know for many stages of product development. Sometimes they think they know something that was later changed by those who can make decisions. I'm not willing to take this unknown source as accurate without knowing more.
Do Fanatics and/or Topps have any headquarters/offices that would make these big decisions in southern California?

I swear the SSP concerns last year also had communication from someone within the company.

I don't entirely get why Jeff is so worried about protecting the "source." If everyone has access to them, it shouldn't be a problem saying who it is or what they do with Topps.
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Old 01-13-2025, 09:41 AM   #235
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When are they releasing the checklist? They gotta know who’s in it by now.
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Old 01-13-2025, 10:55 AM   #236
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When are they releasing the checklist? They gotta know who’s in it by now.
I doubt we get an early checklist.
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Old 01-13-2025, 11:01 AM   #237
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Preorder through Topps is $89.99 per latest Twitter post.
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Old 01-13-2025, 11:02 AM   #238
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Old 01-13-2025, 11:10 AM   #239
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Preorder through Topps is $89.99 per latest Twitter post.
Prices and configurations are all shown on Topps website. It will be the same page to purchase when they go live.
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Old 01-13-2025, 11:12 AM   #240
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I'll define decision-maker when he reveals the position of his source. Otherwise, we are all just guessing as to what value this information even has. We are just left to trust that this person actually has accurate information. I'm not quite willing to do that. If we have a source, then we can begin to dig into whether they are a "decision-maker" for the purposes of having actual knowledge of what went into the product. Lots of employees get to be in the know for many stages of product development. Sometimes they think they know something that was later changed by those who can make decisions. I'm not willing to take this unknown source as accurate without knowing more.
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Do Fanatics and/or Topps have any headquarters/offices that would make these big decisions in southern California?

I swear the SSP concerns last year also had communication from someone within the company.

I don't entirely get why Jeff is so worried about protecting the "source." If everyone has access to them, it shouldn't be a problem saying who it is or what they do with Topps.
Frankly, the person we spoke with is annoyed that I (and others) have publicly blasted this decision. They evidently did not see any of this coming -- as to what THAT says about their connectedness to collectors, I'll leave alone...

They don't want to be further inundated with people calling them "out of touch" and we don't want to burn any bridges. It'd be nice to keep a line of communication open to potentially influence any future decisions such as this.

I will add that the way Topps monitors their social media, especially on Instagram, you'd think that if this was wrong, someone would have come out by now and said, "you've got it all wrong, Topps Black Parallels will of course be in Series 1", but it's been complete silence.

All that said, given the magnitude of the news, not to mention the seeming ridiculousness of such a move by Topps, I would likely not believe someone spouting an unnamed source either. So, I don't begrudge anyone being skeptical or questioning.

As many have said, we'll just have to see it play out.
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Old 01-13-2025, 11:19 AM   #241
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I am in for a jumbo case. Never bought directly from Topps, will be interested to see what price point Blowout comes out with on the preorders
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Old 01-13-2025, 12:04 PM   #242
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Old 01-13-2025, 12:04 PM   #243
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No odds, no checklist, and comes out in Feb. Topps getting a short-term loan here.
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Old 01-13-2025, 12:06 PM   #244
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Old 01-13-2025, 12:09 PM   #245
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I grabbed a jumbo case.


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Old 01-13-2025, 12:09 PM   #246
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It didn't sell out already?
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Old 01-13-2025, 12:12 PM   #247
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No odds, no checklist, and comes out in Feb. Topps getting a short-term loan here.
Odds and checklist aren't that big of a deal for flagship.
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Old 01-13-2025, 12:14 PM   #248
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It didn't sell out already?
Pretty sure it was up for many hours last year, if not a few days. There is a lot of Series 1.
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Old 01-13-2025, 12:32 PM   #249
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I love ripping Flagship, but I'm not feeling excited for this one. Ben Rice and Coby Mayo aren't doing it for me either.
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Old 01-13-2025, 12:36 PM   #250
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I love ripping Flagship, but I'm not feeling excited for this one. Ben Rice and Coby Mayo aren't doing it for me either.
Are Fanatics and MLB trying to get us to buy Sushi?
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