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Old 01-07-2025, 05:30 PM   #76
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Aren’t the prices set by Topps/Fanatics?

Whether the justification is/are breakers, degenerate gamblers, addicts, the Easter Bunny, or Santa Claus… bottom line is that Topps Fanatics sets the price.

If it’s not liked, don’t let them pass the blame on - it’s on them.
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Old 01-07-2025, 06:38 PM   #77
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if the value was there ?might be justified....but i keep reading

production is up and hits are way diluted.

so if fanatics has doubled the run and gutted the hits?

why raise the prices?

or is that incorrect ?

You're misunderstanding what value is. There is obviously value there for those paying for it. Value doesn't mean the same thing to everyone. How much money can be made by reselling the cards in the box is only one type of value.

The more appropriate question is if people are willing to pay a price for the product, why wouldn't you raise the prices?

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Old 01-07-2025, 07:27 PM   #78
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Amazing someone can print a picture on a piece of cardboard and somebody will buy it
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Old 01-07-2025, 07:36 PM   #80
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Have you people seen the price of a new car these days? How about a house? Rent? Airline tickets?

Just about every single commodity has exploded in price. Expecting sports cards to stay the same price is unrealistic.

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Old 01-07-2025, 07:47 PM   #81
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You're misunderstanding what value is. There is obviously value there for those paying for it. Value doesn't mean the same thing to everyone. How much money can be made by reselling the cards in the box is only one type of value.

The more appropriate question is if people are willing to pay a price for the product, why wouldn't you raise the prices?
ok i will ask the better question lol
if people are willing to pay a price for a watered down printed to the moon product why would they raise the prices?
they will make a fortune on the increased volume
and the other question......
how could someone percieve value of any kind knowing this ?
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Old 01-07-2025, 07:48 PM   #82
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Have you people seen the price of a new car these days? How about a house? Rent? Airline tickets?

Just about every single commodity has exploded in price. Expecting sports cards to stay the same process is unrealistic.
What about microwaves and VCRs?
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Old 01-07-2025, 07:48 PM   #83
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Have you people seen the price of a new car these days? How about a house? Rent? Airline tickets?

Just about every single commodity has exploded in price. Expecting sports cards to stay the same process is unrealistic.
i would not expect cards to remain static....
however i would expect ''value '' or better quality for the extra money
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Old 01-07-2025, 08:45 PM   #84
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ok i will ask the better question lol

if people are willing to pay a price for a watered down printed to the moon product why would they raise the prices?

they will make a fortune on the increased volume

and the other question......

how could someone percieve value of any kind knowing this ?
I don't think you understand. People are buying everything they print, even watered down printed to the moon product. They are already making a fortune on the increased volume. As much as they can print, they sell. So I ask again, why wouldn't they raise the prices if people are buying it? Answer that.

As to your other question, who are you to question how someone should value the entertainment value of opening cards? If that's what they enjoy, they are free to value it however they want. Does a billionaire see value in spending a million dollars on a weekend getaway in his private jet? The answer is yes, if he does it. Would you spend a million dollars on a weekend trip? I'm going to guess the answer is no, and that you can't. It's all relative. A person values their entertainment based on their own circumstances. And what they perceive the vakue is might be different than how you would perceive the value. And your value isn't anymore valid than theirs.

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Old 01-07-2025, 08:45 PM   #85
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You guys just have the same arguments over and over again
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Old 01-07-2025, 08:54 PM   #86
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I don't think you understand. People are buying everything they print, even watered down printed to the moon product. They are already making a fortune on the increased volume. As much as they can print, they sell. So I ask again, why wouldn't they raise the prices if people are buying it? Answer that.

As to your other question, who are you to question how someone should value the entertainment value of opening cards? If that's what they enjoy, they are free to value it however they want. Does a billionaire see value in spending a million dollars on a weekend getaway in his private jet? The answer is yes, if he does it. Would you spend a million dollars on a weekend trip? I'm going to guess the answer is no, and that you can't. It's all relative. A person values their entertainment based on their own circumstances. And what they perceive the vakue is might be different than how you would perceive the value. And your value isn't anymore valid than theirs.
first question iguess you are right ...why wouldn't they?ok
second question seems like to each their own......lol
thanks
it just blows my mind is all
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You guys just have the same arguments over and over again
first time for me
just wanted to understand....
ohio set me straight to each their 0wn......
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Old 01-07-2025, 09:08 PM   #88
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You guys just have the same arguments over and over again
And there you are in the peanut gallery every time. Never adding anything of value, just making snarky comments from the sidelines.
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Old 01-07-2025, 09:19 PM   #89
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Retitle this thread "Old guys shaking their fist at the clouds".
In my best grumpy old man voice..."i remember packs being 5 cents back in the day".

Plus they had gum!
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Old 01-07-2025, 09:21 PM   #90
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Shoot, one could just avoid current/future releases and load up on select BO Black November deals and do quite well (from a ripping, flipping and/or holding perspective).
I did this a few years back, and within a month of some of the boxes/packs bought I made my money back and still had several items listed for sale. Didn't have the time this year to really look at it.
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Old 01-07-2025, 09:28 PM   #91
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Have you people seen the price of a new car these days? How about a house? Rent? Airline tickets?

Just about every single commodity has exploded in price. Expecting sports cards to stay the same process is unrealistic.
But sports gambling costs exactly the same. And since that’s all most of these products are…
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Old 01-07-2025, 09:48 PM   #92
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Lottery tickets the same price, all my life.
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Old 01-07-2025, 09:58 PM   #94
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New blood does not care about price or ROI

Retail for most part is garbage. now it’s 30-40 per blaster 70 for mega

But my target every Thursday morning puts out 100 boxes. With in 24-48 hours everything is gone

Triple threads pristine museum tribute gilded bowman jumbos. It’s ll a complete joke

Also. It’s not all fanatics. Just saying
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Old 01-07-2025, 10:00 PM   #95
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The main point is for the people who are still buying at increased prices they are doing so of their own free will. Nobody is forcing them to do so and just because other people don't understand or agree with their logic doesn't mean the people buying are idiots or morons or should feel obligated to boycott product just to get the price to a point others feel more comfortable paying.

There is a lot of resentment towards the people who have the ability to pay the increased prices from those who may not. It's like Bill talking about Bob behind his back because he paid $90,000 for a new truck while Bill is stuck driving a Honda Accord with 300K miles on it.
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Old 01-07-2025, 10:14 PM   #96
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Thing is buying cards for the ultra rich will never be gambling as they have the disposable income, it also must take away some of the thrill of a big hit. Say a multi millionaire hits the Skenes debut patch autograph after spending 100 grand on products the feeling will be fun but not as life changing as somebody who spends what they can afford and pulls the same card. I always tell my wife there would be no fun in collecting if you already had more than enough money to buy any card you wanted.
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Thing is buying cards for the ultra rich will never be gambling as they have the disposable income, it also must take away some of the thrill of a big hit. Say a multi millionaire hits the Skenes debut patch autograph after spending 100 grand on products the feeling will be fun but not as life changing as somebody who spends what they can afford and pulls the same card. I always tell my wife there would be no fun in collecting if you already had more than enough money to buy any card you wanted.
This is why the Squid Game was invented.
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This is why the Squid Game was invented.
Haven’t gotten into that yet but I will eventually.
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Thing is buying cards for the ultra rich will never be gambling as they have the disposable income, it also must take away some of the thrill of a big hit. Say a multi millionaire hits the Skenes debut patch autograph after spending 100 grand on products the feeling will be fun but not as life changing as somebody who spends what they can afford and pulls the same card. I always tell my wife there would be no fun in collecting if you already had more than enough money to buy any card you wanted.
Chasing big money hits is for the poors. But chasing special cards is still fun. There just aren’t any being made anymore.
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Chasing big money hits is for the poors. But chasing special cards is still fun. There just aren’t any being made anymore.
There are still good looking cards in cheap products. Why chase the special card if you can just buy it. I keep seeing people using the the term poors, I consider them everyday people the percentage of people in the United States living paycheck to paycheck is pretty substantial.
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