Skybox 2024 1992 MM Platinum

[Kobefan]

Are there any FB groups that actively trade 92 platinum masterpieces for set building? Most groups just sells or character trade.

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by Kobefan

Well, bought another 2 hobby boxes and 3 blaster boxes, and these are my hits:
IMG_9448 by Manny, on Flickr

The Spiderman and Capt spectra are rainbow, the silver surfer is a regular spectra.

Nice cards all around there, lucking out with Spidey. But my personal fav is the gold seismic Iceman- nice pull! He’s up there in my fav arts in the set.

[DynaEtch]

Agreed about the Holofoils possibly all being bad OC from epack.

I am holding a mini boxes in hand for the first time. From an eBay purchase. They do really pop in person.

[Kobefan]

Originally Posted by Chrominator

Nice battle rainbow!

I'd be happy with those boxes

Thanks, it's in the same box as the gold.

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

Nice cards all around there, lucking out with Spidey. But my personal fav is the gold seismic Iceman- nice pull! He’s up there in my fav arts in the set.

I was fortunate to get another gold, but even still, probably less than 50% of my money back, and both boxes are missing lenticular. I didn't get my PC guy, but more stuff for set building. At some point, when I stop opening packs, I should start trading to build sets, I'm eyeing on the holofoil and lenticular, and maybe the blue traxx or rainbow, too bad it seems like there isn't a community for set building trades.

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by Kobefan

Thanks, it's in the same box as the gold.



I was fortunate to get another gold, but even still, probably less than 50% of my money back, and both boxes are missing lenticular. I didn't get my PC guy, but more stuff for set building. At some point, when I stop opening packs, I should start trading to build sets, I'm eyeing on the holofoil and lenticular, and maybe the blue traxx or rainbow, too bad it seems like there isn't a community for set building trades.

The iceman is one of those ones- stellar art, despite not being top echelon character. There are few like that in this set for me. If only the value was correlated with the art more than the character.

The set collecting point brings up a good point…which parallel sets are people attempting in this? Blue traxx? lenticulars, holofoils or pink lasers? Mini-boxes?

I’m trying to figure out what’s even remotely doable…I probably would draw the line at red prism variants. Huge jump from /292 down to /92. Was loosely debating going for the golds but it’d be awfully expensive. The mini-box set I’m definitely going for, that would be a great 100-carder.

[LittleJimmies]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

The iceman is one of those ones- stellar art, despite not being top echelon character. There are few like that in this set for me. If only the value was correlated with the art more than the character.

The set collecting point brings up a good point…which parallel sets are people attempting in this? Blue traxx? lenticulars, holofoils or pink lasers? Mini-boxes?

I’m trying to figure out what’s even remotely doable…I probably would draw the line at red prism variants. Huge jump from /292 down to /92. Was loosely debating going for the golds but it’d be awfully expensive. The mini-box set I’m definitely going for, that would be a great 100-carder.

Mini boxes all the way for set building. IMO they look so much better than the color parallels, which I feel look too oversaturated because the refractor design layers lack any transparency. Mini boxes keep the original art 100% visible while adding great pop.

I would say kaleidoscope, but set collecting that is a pure pipe dream.

[Fenian95]

Mini boxes are probably doable. Data points from Ebay tonight.

Venom $41 USD
Spider Man $51 USD

The Blue Traxx Venom sold for nearly that much...

Probably be a set where you want to grab the big 10 quickly before supply dries up and the general collecting public figure out how rare these actually are.

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by Fenian95

Mini boxes are probably doable. Data points from Ebay tonight.

Venom $41 USD
Spider Man $51 USD

The Blue Traxx Venom sold for nearly that much...

Probably be a set where you want to grab the big 10 quickly before supply dries up and the general collecting public figure out how rare these actually are.

Agree. I did that on comc early on, picking up the 3 big names when they were like $30-40. I guess that’s a fair deal looking back. Still some upper tier (but less than top) characters I’m looking for though. I figure they’ll probably run me like $20-30 a piece now. I picked up pretty much all the commons at like $3ish per early on..kinda doubting they’ll change all that much.

The sets that I really want to collect from a pure aesthetic standpoint are:

-Purple Crystals
-Blue Traxx / Variant
-Holofoil
-Mini Boxes
-Gold Seismic

I think those are some of my fav designs. Maybe the pink lasers too, not sure.

[Spacemanspif]

I'm really into the variant covers. picking up Golds and Oranges where I can, but obviously it's not cheap and don't really expect to be able to form a full set. Mini-boxes are fine, I have grabbed a lot of the main characters but not sure if I care to build the whole set.

Realistically, I'll probably stick with Rainbow / Rainbow Variant / Holofoil, and just try to do some character rainbows

[Spacemanspif]

Figured I'd also post the results of my blasters. They're pretty straightforward, every pack of 3 cards has 2 base with another card sandwiched between, so you get 8 non-base per blaster

2x base inserts (Variant / Corner Box / Famous Cover), Battle Spectrums can replace a spot
2x Rainbow / Variant Rainbow, Leather can replace a spot (ew)
2x Canvas / Clear
1x Blue / Blue Variant, Lenticular can replace
1x Purple Crystals

so far the grading quality doesn't look great. numbered cards seem the sharpest of any, most of the mass produced stuff look like they have bad centering and rough edges or corners right out of the pack

[Kobefan]

You guys already started buying for your sets? Outside of Silver Surfer for character collecting, I haven't bought any singles for set collecting yet, I didn't want to have too many duplicates, so I figured I would buy after I stop opening packs.

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by Spacemanspif

I'm really into the variant covers. picking up Golds and Oranges where I can, but obviously it's not cheap and don't really expect to be able to form a full set. Mini-boxes are fine, I have grabbed a lot of the main characters but not sure if I care to build the whole set.

Realistically, I'll probably stick with Rainbow / Rainbow Variant / Holofoil, and just try to do some character rainbows

With your blaster cases do you think you’ll make a run at the purple crystals?

I agree about the condition. Some of these base have like striated edges or something…not sure how that would be handled grading wise. And the centering is tricky as well….so many off-center. Makes it authentic to the origins 92s in that sense.

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by Kobefan

You guys already started buying for your sets? Outside of Silver Surfer for character collecting, I haven't bought any singles for set collecting yet, I didn't want to have too many duplicates, so I figured I would buy after I stop opening packs.

I just made the comc plunge 2 days ago for a lot of my basic set needs (talking like canvas, leather, cover variant, rainbow etc). I understand that for those cards, the prices should come down even more (maybe from say $.80 down to $.40-50) in the long run. But I’m not that patient and it’s cheap enough.

Surprisingly blue traxx has not bottomed out yet on there. I blame there being only 4-6 in each bucket on avg, and the reason for that is probably either many people trying to collect that set, and/or people going for an achievement of that on epack. But blue traxx is up into $4-6ish for many and that just seems like a lot for a basic parallel during a comc flood. So I’m waiting on that. Holofoils and lenticular have some room to fall yet also imo.

Not a bad idea to wait until you’re done opening. I bought a purple crystal Spiderman early on from eBay, then pulled one in my blaster case…d’oh. I probably won’t be opening all that much more, so I felt ok doing that comc set collecting plunge. I do have 1 more blaster case incoming, but that won’t change things much. Hoping to round off my purple set with that, or get close at least.

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by Kobefan

You guys already started buying for your sets? Outside of Silver Surfer for character collecting, I haven't bought any singles for set collecting yet, I didn't want to have too many duplicates, so I figured I would buy after I stop opening packs.

How far do you think you’ll take the Silver Surfer rainbow in this? Into the orange/emeralds? Into the PMGs? It’s pretty crazy you have a kaleidoscope already. Easily one of my fav arts in the set.

[Spacemanspif]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

With your blaster cases do you think you’ll make a run at the purple crystals?

I agree about the condition. Some of these base have like striated edges or something…not sure how that would be handled grading wise. And the centering is tricky as well….so many off-center. Makes it authentic to the origins 92s in that sense.

I thought about it, there was a vendor with "cheap" cases that I was going to buy from, but they took down the listing. I sent them a message to see if they still had them. Right now I'm picking off so many Gold / Orange at auction that I don't really feel like blowing through Hobby Boxes at $150 per to get a common character pink. At this time I'd rather rip cases of blasters and forego the upside of a monster to get a bunch of Rainbows / Blues / Purples for set collecting. Maybe once I fill out the Rainbow and Blue sets I'll feel differently

[Kobefan]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

How far do you think you’ll take the Silver Surfer rainbow in this? Into the orange/emeralds? Into the PMGs? It’s pretty crazy you have a kaleidoscope already. Easily one of my fav arts in the set.

I have rainbow, spectra rainbow, holofoil, kaleidoscope, and blue PMG, I'm planning on getting the mini-box, blue traxx and lenticular, everything else depends on the prices. I have chances to get the orange and emeralds, but they went for higher than I want to pay. What I'm willing to pay depends on its rarity and how much I like the design. Parallels like the pink, red, orange, and emeralds almost covers up the entire cosmic/planetary background of the card, which deducts in its appeal. PMG blue did a better job that shows some of the background, so I was willing to pay more. So in conclusion, I don't really don't how far in the rainbow I will go, if I can get a golden treasure for the cost of half a case, I'll try to go for it.

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by Spacemanspif

I thought about it, there was a vendor with "cheap" cases that I was going to buy from, but they took down the listing. I sent them a message to see if they still had them. Right now I'm picking off so many Gold / Orange at auction that I don't really feel like blowing through Hobby Boxes at $150 per to get a common character pink. At this time I'd rather rip cases of blasters and forego the upside of a monster to get a bunch of Rainbows / Blues / Purples for set collecting. Maybe once I fill out the Rainbow and Blue sets I'll feel differently

100%….hard to buy boxes of this when you can set collect parallels on the cheap. I did buy that 1 more blaster case when images of Spider-Man purple crystal variants dancing in my head…but less confident now that my 1 case didn’t have any variant.

I’ve been picking up several common purples on eBay for like $5-7 per at auction, so it’s really not a bad way to finish off that set. With the main characters out of the way I think I should be near finishing that soon. Medium-high characters (Iron Man, Jean, Gambit etc) seem to be like $25-40 in purple which still isn’t bad, about the price of a blaster or less.

[LittleJimmies]

Been patiently waiting for a Venom purple cover to pop up, nada so far.

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by Kobefan

I have rainbow, spectra rainbow, holofoil, kaleidoscope, and blue PMG, I'm planning on getting the mini-box, blue traxx and lenticular, everything else depends on the prices. I have chances to get the orange and emeralds, but they went for higher than I want to pay. What I'm willing to pay depends on its rarity and how much I like the design. Parallels like the pink, red, orange, and emeralds almost covers up the entire cosmic/planetary background of the card, which deducts in its appeal. PMG blue did a better job that shows some of the background, so I was willing to pay more. So in conclusion, I don't really don't how far in the rainbow I will go, if I can get a golden treasure for the cost of half a case, I'll try to go for it.

Nice start on the Surfers. The extra ones like blue traxx and lenticular etc shouldn’t be much to add on. I do like Surfer’s PMG because it doesn’t have all the white border unfinished look stuff going on. Picking up a surfer golden treasure for half case price would be ideal.

One word of caution with the Golden Treasures and PMG golds in this…there are shenanigans going on in the market. Dishonest players making it bad. Something that is all too common in the higher echelon of the Marvel card market unfortunately- and with this I include things like 1/1s, original art, and highest end sketches. I bought a Golden Treasures of a common character from this for $500….not a bad price tbh….and the seller then canceled it on me a couple hours later. I have little doubt a Golden Treasures whale swooped in after the sale and offered more for it.

So be prepared even if you successfully buy something like a Surfer golden treasure, to expect shenanigans. Marvel card market can really suck at some of the higher levels- just the nature of this hobby unfortunately.

Edit: unless of course it’s on COMC and an instant transfer…then it shouldn’t matter.

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by LittleJimmies

Been patiently waiting for a Venom purple cover to pop up, nada so far.

I don’t think I’ve seen a Spider-Man purple variant yet either. I did see 1 Wolverine purple variant and it went for $950, which seemed like a pretty fair deal tbh, a good amount less than the cost of 2 blaster cases. I would put Venom at or around the price of Wolverine in this set.

[DynaEtch]

Quick update through half of my blaster case. 0 purple variants, not a good sign so far. The reg purple names have been ok I guess, but mostly doubles.

One pack had 2 cards, instead of the 3 it should. I said to myself, “wonder if that was the one supposed to have a purple”. Lo and behold, NO purple in that blaster box. It’s like they just didn’t put the purple in the one pack. I probably should have an argument there since the pack literally had 2 cards instead of the advertised 3, but probably not even going to try anything. On one hand it’s difficult to prove, and on the other hand as Fenian showed us, UD will start quoting ‘nothing guaranteed in packs or boxes’….although I have no doubt each of these blasters was supposed to have a purple. I did get 2 reg purples in one box before so I’ll call it even.

[Fenian95]

Dyna UD DOES guarantee number of cards per pack/box.

If you contact them you will get a card in the mail.

Quote from email.

f you were shorted cards in your packs, we can still provide further assistance

Open a case with name, address, phone #, serial from box and receipt.

[Spacemanspif]

Originally Posted by Fenian95

Dyna UD DOES guarantee number of cards per pack/box.

If you contact them you will get a card in the mail.

Quote from email.

f you were shorted cards in your packs, we can still provide further assistance

Open a case with name, address, phone #, serial from box and receipt.

I think being shorted cards (receiving 22 cards in a box instead of 24) would qualify for a guarantee. Not getting an expected hit (open 8 packs and don't get a parallel that has 1:8 pack odds) is different, and what that guy from earlier was talking about.

[Kobefan]

For those who have been checking sales on ebay, many of the lot sales came from China, so maybe some of the major hits have already been pulled, but have not been publicized yet. Also, since the bulk of the cases went to the big 3, how are there so many box opened in China?

[DynaEtch]

Thanks for that info…I may at least write to UD. While I got shorted a card, and that box didn’t have a purple, there is no guarantee I guess that it *had* to be a purple, even though I’m pretty sure it was- every other blaster out of 4 cases I opened had at least one purple. So that’s a curious thing how UD would replace that. I mean it probably doesn’t make a big difference, since common purples are $5-15….but if that was a main purple character I missed somehow, that kinda impacts the value of the case at least more than trivially.

Anyway, onto the case result. It was bruuu-tal. No purple variants. The purple names were slightly above avg I guess, but only 2 new ones that weren’t doubles, and one of those 2 I just purchased on eBay, ouch.

19 reg purples


This was the best one, the Venom (which I just bought on eBay before this)


These cases are not good without a purple variant. So to round out my contribution of data, I’m at 4 blaster cases opened and 2 had purple variants. Based on this small sample and eBay numbers, I’m going to currently estimate they are 1:1.5 cases to 1:2 cases. The fact many people seemed to get one in their cases above I think is due to slightly beating the odds.