**OFFICIAL Victor Wembanyama Thread!**

[Above the Rim]

I took my son to the Portland/Denver game last Thursday. At the final buzzer, Portland made a layup to win the game.

They miss or don't even take that shot if they are intentionally trying to lose.

And trust me, your "Bozo" comment on the MVP thread is not a good look for you.

Dude, research what people often do with low self-esteem, take a look in the mirror, then figure out a better path forward in life.

[Gem10collection]

Originally Posted by Above the Rim

I took my son to the Portland/Denver game last Thursday. At the final buzzer, Portland made a layup to win the game.

They miss or don't even take that shot if they are intentionally trying to lose.

And trust me, your "Bozo" comment on the MVP thread is not a good look for you.

Dude, research what people often do with low self-esteem, take a look in the mirror, then figure out a better path forward in life.

Yeah, I blocked him a long time ago. I recently decided to read one of his comments in my thread and realized exactly why. Actually, blowout gets a lot better after blocking just a handful of accounts.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by Gem10collection

Yeah, I blocked him a long time ago. I recently decided to read one of his comments in my thread and realized exactly why. Actually, blowout gets a lot better after blocking just a handful of accounts.

The horror!



I’m sorry the collapse of the NBA is so hurtful to so many of you. At least you have the WNBA.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by Above the Rim

Dude, research what people often do with low self-esteem, take a look in the mirror, then figure out a better path forward in life.

Wrong pal. I’m the Stephen A of Blowout. Figure out the difference. Above the Rim, MS, LPC should be able to do it.

[GuacamoleCards]

Wemby has scored 20+ in 13 of his last 14 games. Seems pretty consistent.

[drobfan8]

Originally Posted by Above the Rim

I took my son to the Portland/Denver game last Thursday. At the final buzzer, Portland made a layup to win the game.

They miss or don't even take that shot if they are intentionally trying to lose.

And trust me, your "Bozo" comment on the MVP thread is not a good look for you.

Dude, research what people often do with low self-esteem, take a look in the mirror, then figure out a better path forward in life.

You have Khal way off. He has little man syndrome. Maybe low self esteem from that?

These people made moronic takes early and have too much ego to admit they know nothing about basketball and got it wrong.

Wemby and the Spurs are doing well and hopefully can hold their spot and make the Play offs. All in the tougher conference. I can't wait to see him with some more pieces around him

[GuacamoleCards]

Wemby is top 3 in the league in EPM behind only Jokic and Shai, 94th percentile O-EPM, 98th percentile D-EPM... that's pretty good for a second year player.

[ThoseBackPages]

as a hobby outsider when it comes to current NBA....

what will Wemby do that the other two Spurs HOF Centers didnt?

i ask because the hobby does not care about DRob (understandable given his playing days period), and Duncan played through the end of Michaels career, mirrored Kobe's and through LeBrons.

[drobfan8]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

as a hobby outsider when it comes to current NBA....

what will Wemby do that the other two Spurs HOF Centers didnt?

i ask because the hobby does not care about DRob (understandable given his playing days period), and Duncan played through the end of Michaels career, mirrored Kobe's and through LeBrons.

Ba ha.

People are talking about his game and someone just has to bring it back to "the hobby".

Who cares what his kards do.

Secondly, D. Rob has a great card market and he's signed more than probably anyone.

And Tim Duncan's is just fine too.

I think almost all modern guys cards are risky as it's a flippers game now. Not sure who's actually collecting.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by drobfan8

Ba ha.

People are talking about his game and someone just has to bring it back to "the hobby".

Who cares what his kards do.

Secondly, D. Rob has a great card market and he's signed more than probably anyone.

And Tim Duncan's is just fine too.

I think almost all modern guys cards are risky as it's a flippers game now. Not sure who's actually collecting.

this is the hobby section of this place

[GuacamoleCards]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

as a hobby outsider when it comes to current NBA....

what will Wemby do that the other two Spurs HOF Centers didnt?

i ask because the hobby does not care about DRob (understandable given his playing days period), and Duncan played through the end of Michaels career, mirrored Kobe's and through LeBrons.

To answer your question, the answer is in marketability. Robinson and Duncan were both somewhat reclusive (especially Duncan), not as marketable (though they tried with Robinson), and overshadowed by others in the league.

Wembanyama, on the other hand, is already a global sensation and being pushed as a face of the league (and a nation, frankly). That can certainly change, but for now it's not just the NBA and Nike prioritizing this guy, it's brands like Louis Vitton and, more importantly, fans. Wemby is #4 in jersey sales in 2024 behind Curry, Tatum and Bron (one of either Curry or Lebron has held the top spot on this list every year since 2015, which is as far back as I could find a ranking). People want to point to how Jokic doesn't have the hobby value... Jokic is 14th on that list. Hype + Performance + is what drives the hobby, and so far Wemby has both. He'll he helped by pushing his team to success, though I'd argue that isn't as necessary. It certainly hasn't held back Mike Trout from being a hobby success.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by GuacamoleCards

To answer your question, the answer is in marketability. Robinson and Duncan were both somewhat reclusive (especially Duncan), not as marketable (though they tried with Robinson), and overshadowed by others in the league.

Wembanyama, on the other hand, is already a global sensation and being pushed as a face of the league (and a nation, frankly). That can certainly change, but for now it's not just the NBA and Nike prioritizing this guy, it's brands like Louis Vitton and, more importantly, fans. Wemby is #4 in jersey sales in 2024 behind Curry, Tatum and Bron (one of either Curry or Lebron has held the top spot on this list every year since 2015, which is as far back as I could find a ranking). People want to point to how Jokic doesn't have the hobby value... Jokic is 14th on that list. Hype + Performance + is what drives the hobby, and so far Wemby has both. He'll he helped by pushing his team to success, though I'd argue that isn't as necessary. It certainly hasn't held back Mike Trout from being a hobby success.

i hope your right as that would only be good for the hobby.

One thing that worked in Trouts favor was that he didnt have hundreds of unique 2011 cards releases.

They are still releasing 2023 Wemby Cards here at the near mid-way point of his second season and a month shy of 2025.

That is a problem.

[GuacamoleCards]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

i hope your right as that would only be good for the hobby.

One thing that worked in Trouts favor was that he didnt have hundreds of unique 2011 cards releases.

They are still releasing 2023 Wemby Cards here at the near mid-way point of his second season and a month shy of 2025.

That is a problem.

No disagreements there. I think in the long run it will just play out in the value will lie in short-print and numbered parallels (of which there are also too many - 64 different Prizm parallels including the base). The proliferation of parallels is even keeping down some others which should in theory carry some value, but they are just lost in the shuffle (thinking of the Mosaic Glitters, for example). I've been trying to consolidate my Wemby collection into certain areas, for example, numbered and short-printed Select Courtside parallels.

[Sticks33]

Originally Posted by Above the Rim

I took my son to the Portland/Denver game last Thursday. At the final buzzer, Portland made a layup to win the game.

They miss or don't even take that shot if they are intentionally trying to lose.

And trust me, your "Bozo" comment on the MVP thread is not a good look for you.

Dude, research what people often do with low self-esteem, take a look in the mirror, then figure out a better path forward in life.

I think you’re right about the low self esteem. I blocked him during the pandemic, only guy I have blocked right now, and it’s so much more pleasant.

From your comment, I’m guessing he hasn’t gotten any better?

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by GuacamoleCards

No disagreements there. I think in the long run it will just play out in the value will lie in short-print and numbered parallels (of which there are also too many - 64 different Prizm parallels including the base). The proliferation of parallels is even keeping down some others which should in theory carry some value, but they are just lost in the shuffle (thinking of the Mosaic Glitters, for example). I've been trying to consolidate my Wemby collection into certain areas, for example, numbered and short-printed Select Courtside parallels.

Yes i agree its a major problem. you know its bad when the card nerds (us) have 'issues" keeping it all straight. its a big issue in baseball as well.

you're right though, time will settle all the noise

[ninjacookies]

I personally want to see Wadlow in the playoffs this year. Will be interesting to see how teams gameplan against him in the postseason. He's having his way on the defensive end night in and night out.


I could be in the minority, but it feels like there is no current face of the league. Ant seems to be the only one with any sort of media/commercial presence (here in the US), and those campaigns are dwindling down now that he's regressing. Yannis ads have faded into obscurity, and Hotels.com seems to have terminated its Yoker relationship for the time being.

The NBA has not done a very good job promoting its stars. It's kind of telling when 97 year old CP3's been the only State Farm rep. And Caitlyn got coverage before any young NBA dude.



I'd say the crown is very much up for grabs, though in a bit of a lull atm.

[Nomad]

Wemby will become reclusive in a year or two. Mass media does that to a soul.

Wonder who will come out of the Spurs soul-crushing defeats against Pacers in Paris as the new hobby darling. Do French fans care enough about a player not French to embrace the totality of the game?

[Durantula]

If healthy, Wemby will own the league soon!

[Sticks33]

Originally Posted by Nomad

Wemby will become reclusive in a year or two. Mass media does that to a soul.

Wonder who will come out of the Spurs soul-crushing defeats against Pacers in Paris as the new hobby darling. Do French fans care enough about a player not French to embrace the totality of the game?

The nba should have sent another team to France instead of the Pacers. Pacers are on a downward trajectory and are underperforming from last year. I don’t think French fans care about Indiana.

Certainly a couple spurs vs pacers games in France does nothing to the “…totality of the game”.

[cardsin47]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

I could be in the minority, but it feels like there is no current face of the league.

You’re correct. In 2019-20 it looked like it was going to be Zion, then he virtually never played. Then in 2021-22 ( from memory ) it looked like it was going to be Ja, then he started waiving guns around and posting it online.

[jcardstore]

Can a foreign born player be the face of the NBA?

[Gem10collection]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

Can a foreign born player be the face of the NBA?

Seeing as how basketball is easily the most international major sport in the world after soccer - yes! Just win and you're in.

[ThatGuyPal]

Originally Posted by drobfan8

Ba ha.

People are talking about his game and someone just has to bring it back to "the hobby".

Who cares what his kards do.

Secondly, D. Rob has a great card market and he's signed more than probably anyone.

And Tim Duncan's is just fine too.

I think almost all modern guys cards are risky as it's a flippers game now. Not sure who's actually collecting.

Yeah both those guys have good markets, I don't really get implying that's a bad thing. Duncan is used to promote basically every product Panini puts out now that he's signed with them lol

If you're paying insane money for his cards I guess the comparison makes sense but still not really since there were obviously people who overpaid for their cards back in the day as well and probably lost. It makes no sense comparing modern players to retired when you have no idea how careers will play out.

[Nomad]

Originally Posted by Sticks33

The nba should have sent another team to France instead of the Pacers. Pacers are on a downward trajectory and are underperforming from last year. I don’t think French fans care about Indiana.

Certainly a couple spurs vs pacers games in France does nothing to the “…totality of the game”.

Too lazy to go back to my posts but I have been sending signals that should have caused bettors to place massive lines on Indy in the last 3 games.

They are poised to buzzsaw dominate second half of season, whatever ninjafool sez

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by Nomad

Too lazy to go back to my posts but I have been sending signals that should have caused bettors to place massive lines on Indy in the last 3 games.

They are poised to buzzsaw dominate second half of season, whatever ninjafool sez

You send signals on Pacers literally every post. They just happened to win the last few games