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Old 12-06-2024, 02:21 PM   #1
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Default LEAKED!? Mets offer Soto $700 mil over 15 years?

Not sure the validity of the user but the NY Post is all over it. Will be interesting to see if it is true or not


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Old 12-06-2024, 02:28 PM   #2
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Don't think there's validity there but 15 years is way too long. The AAV is 46.5 with this. I think he wants the highest AAV which can be 600 over 12 years at 50 AAV. I'm sure with a couple of opt outs laced in.
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Old 12-06-2024, 02:28 PM   #3
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A... NY Post article... sourced from... a TikTok comment?

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Old 12-06-2024, 02:35 PM   #4
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Either way, seems like it’s going to be over $600M.

Seems like a year or two ago people didn’t think it would surpass $500M.
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Old 12-06-2024, 02:38 PM   #5
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Old 12-06-2024, 02:42 PM   #6
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Its really wild to see how much teams are spending for a bat only player. Nothing against Soto, but he ain't Judge and he ain't Ohtani.
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Old 12-06-2024, 02:50 PM   #7
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Its really wild to see how much teams are spending for a bat only player. Nothing against Soto, but he ain't Judge and he ain't Ohtani.
To be fair, a hitter of his caliber is unlikely to be available via free agency or trade for several years -- Judge, Ohtani and Witt are all locked up on long-term deals. And he's only 26 years old. A 700 million dollar deal isn't so crazy if you look at it from that perspective.

If I'm Cohen, I make sure I'm not outbid. If chooses to go somewhere, that's his perogative. But you can't get outbid when it comes to a player like Soto.
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Old 12-06-2024, 02:51 PM   #8
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To be fair, a hitter of his caliber is unlikely to be available via free agency or trade for several years -- Judge, Ohtani and Witt are all locked up on long-term deals. And he's only 26 years old. A 700 million dollar deal isn't so crazy if you look at it from that perspective.

If I'm Cohen, I make sure I'm not outbid. If chooses to go somewhere, that's his perogative. But you can't get outbid when it comes to a player like Soto.

I don’t know if I put Witt with Soto


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To be fair, a hitter of his caliber is unlikely to be available via free agency or trade for several years -- Judge, Ohtani and Witt are all locked up on long-term deals. And he's only 26 years old. A 700 million dollar deal isn't so crazy if you look at it from that perspective.

If I'm Cohen, I make sure I'm not outbid. If chooses to go somewhere, that's his perogative. But you can't get outbid when it comes to a player like Soto.
Soto has the obp, but we're talking a career .285 hitter. I get averages are lower these days, but he's not head and shoulders above anyone else in baseball. He's shown flashes of that just like he's shown prolonged slumps.
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Old 12-06-2024, 02:55 PM   #10
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Not sure the validity of the user but the NY Post is all over it. Will be interesting to see if it is true or not


https://nypost.com/2024/12/06/sports...n-soto-theory/
Impossible! The click bait article I saw on Facebook today said he was signing with the Yankees for $700,000,067.
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Witt needs to show he can do it again, but if he does he's arguably more valuable than Soto given he can run and plays defense at a premium position
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Old 12-06-2024, 03:14 PM   #12
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Witt needs to show he can do it again, but if he does he's arguably more valuable than Soto given he can run and plays defense at a premium position
lol...absolutely no way

soto has proven time and time again that he is the most consistent performer in October...which is what matters
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lol...absolutely no way

soto has proven time and time again that he is the most consistent performer in October...which is what matters
His postseason numbers are only slightly down from reg season which is really good, but if you're building a team you're taking the 10war shortstop over the dh in rf.
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I'd hold out for a minority interest in the club
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At this rate don't you mean majority interest lol.
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His postseason numbers are only slightly down from reg season which is really good, but if you're building a team you're taking the 10war shortstop over the dh in rf.
Soto isn't a dh in rf...he is a very good outfielder

also witt hit .192 in this years playoffs - not sure what you're talking about
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lol...absolutely no way

soto has proven time and time again that he is the most consistent performer in October...which is what matters
He hits good pitching -- he's shown that in October.
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Old 12-06-2024, 03:31 PM   #18
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Old 12-06-2024, 03:31 PM   #19
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Soto has the obp, but we're talking a career .285 hitter. I get averages are lower these days, but he's not head and shoulders above anyone else in baseball. He's shown flashes of that just like he's shown prolonged slumps.
He's been consistent these last two seasons -- only 3 out of the previous 12 months with an OPS below .900; only 2 below .800.

He plays nearly every game -- 162 games played in 2023, and 157 games in 2024. Imagine a great hitter in the lineup every game.

He'll give you 35-40 home runs -- 35 in 2023 and 41 last season.

He's not the complete player like 90s Barry Bonds, but he's one of only a handful of players who does what he does.
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Soto isn't a dh in rf...he is a very good outfielder

also witt hit .192 in this years playoffs - not sure what you're talking about
He's 14th percentile in range, 48th percentile in arm strength. He's not a good fielder. And its beyond silly to write off Witt over 26 at bats. Judge slumped in the playoffs and so did Ohtani, you going to dfa both of them?
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Old 12-06-2024, 03:37 PM   #21
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The money being thrown around in the media for a soon to be DH who doesn’t come with any extra value to me is hilarious, he provides on offense and is rarely injured but the amounts being mentioned are unjustifiable given the return.
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Old 12-06-2024, 03:43 PM   #22
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If the owners want to do it go for it. i don't begrudge soto taking whatever he can get, but baseball if filled with players who never got hurt prior to age 26 that didn't end up staying that way. I can recall a few instances this year where Soto got lucky with the injuries. I know he missed the Dodgers series back in June. If a team can make 50m a year work for the next 15 years then why not, but whoever signs him better not then come out and say they can't afford to build out the rest of the team.
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He's 14th percentile in range, 48th percentile in arm strength. He's not a good fielder. And its beyond silly to write off Witt over 26 at bats. Judge slumped in the playoffs and so did Ohtani, you going to dfa both of them?
I was just responding to what you said about Witt "His postseason numbers are only slightly down from reg season which is really good"

unless you were talking about soto?
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that's not enough
This exactly. Soto brings generational hitting skills to whichever team lands him. In baseball's current economy, that offer isn't close.
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