BGS

[collective]

Beckett can't get out of their own way. Their refusal to adapt and their old ways of running the ship aren't working and won't work in 2024 and beyond. Isn't the owner still in prison?

[MFaulkCollector]

I've only used BGS for my PSA rejects the past 4-5 years.... but recently it seems they are grading much much harder....... so not using them at all is the logical next step.

[Dereth]

Has anyone here done an in-person drop off with BGS? Do you just package the card the same way that you would if you were mailing it in?

[BigMac]

Originally Posted by MFaulkCollector

I've only used BGS for my PSA rejects the past 4-5 years.... but recently it seems they are grading much much harder....... so not using them at all is the logical next step.

curious to hear what makes you say this.. ive been meaning to submit my non-psa submission to Beckett but would be more hesitant if they're grading harshly

[MFaulkCollector]

Originally Posted by BigMac

curious to hear what makes you say this.. ive been meaning to submit my non-psa submission to Beckett but would be more hesitant if they're grading harshly

This is my personal testimonial..... for 5 plus years I've given BGS some on site RCR and/or full slab service at the National show with the somewhat common drop off at Chantilly/Philly/National show take home.......... These are items cracked from PSA cases/thick cards I don't really know what PSA will grade them/items with smaller corner defects I assume BGS will 8.5 the corners and get an overall 9

This strategy worked fine for my liking for most items over the past 5-6 or more years. I was happy with the results and it was fairly predictable. ........... until the last 2 Chantilly drop offs and last National show drop off. All 3 of these orders were a disaster for me. I am not saying BGS is wrong in the grades, but I chose to grade with them for a reason. My expectations of their grades are from 25/30 submissions over the better part of a decade. I don't have money to waste if the grading standards for them have changed. I have no reason to use them at this point any longer so I won't be.

Others may have experienced different but that's my personal testimony

[MFaulkCollector]

Originally Posted by Dereth

Has anyone here done an in-person drop off with BGS? Do you just package the card the same way that you would if you were mailing it in?

Do not box everything up..... all you need is the paper submission form and the cards banded in order to what is on the form. BGS rep at the show or wherever you drop off will count them and tally up final price to verify accuracy... they will then band them back up and put in a padded envelope to go to headquarters. That's it

[auburn35]

For those still waiting on changes/improvements from Beckett.... the owner's legal issues aren't helping. I guess if the company is forced to be sold, maybe the legal issues are helping.

Insurance Mogul Pleads Guilty to $2B Fraud and Money Laundering Scheme
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/insur...ndering-scheme

[Dereth]

Originally Posted by MFaulkCollector

Do not box everything up..... all you need is the paper submission form and the cards banded in order to what is on the form. BGS rep at the show or wherever you drop off will count them and tally up final price to verify accuracy... they will then band them back up and put in a padded envelope to go to headquarters. That's it

Does BGS have a "pizza tracker" like PSA does? I've landed on their "Grading Order" page that has Job Details and Card Listing sections, but it doesn't really give any information on where in the process that the card is. Is it just going to suddenly show a final grade in the Card Listing section at some point?

[ragingbull]

Originally Posted by auburn35

For those still waiting on changes/improvements from Beckett.... the owner's legal issues aren't helping. I guess if the company is forced to be sold, maybe the legal issues are helping.

Insurance Mogul Pleads Guilty to $2B Fraud and Money Laundering Scheme
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/insur...ndering-scheme

if bgs does get sold, i hope it gets sold to a company whose owner understands trading cards.

frankly, this legal battle of lindberg might just drive bgs into bankruptcy. selling bgs i guess is the practical thing to do.

[auburn35]

Originally Posted by ragingbull

if bgs does get sold, i hope it gets sold to a company whose owner understands trading cards.

frankly, this legal battle of lindberg might just drive bgs into bankruptcy. selling bgs i guess is the practical thing to do.

If you look back at one of the other legal issues for Beckett, it was alleged that Beckett was already shopping the business. If accurate, have to think the value has only dropped since that time.

[ArmyDC]

Originally Posted by ragingbull

if bgs does get sold, i hope it gets sold to a company whose owner understands trading cards.

frankly, this legal battle of lindberg might just drive bgs into bankruptcy. selling bgs i guess is the practical thing to do.

Really hope Fanatics adds them.

[Squareburgers]

Originally Posted by ArmyDC

Really hope Fanatics adds them.

Fanatics is losing money, I really don't see them adding more to their debt. Also, wouldn't that scare you if Fanatics graded their own cards?

[kpete42]

Originally Posted by kpete42

Anyone know if BGS customer service ever actually follows up on emails? I had an order arrive on 10/30 with a hairline crack in one of the slabs. Emailed them immediately to ask if I could send back to have recased since it arrived damaged. Followed up on 11/5. Still no response.

I personally prefer BGS and keep giving them chances, but it’s getting harder and harder. Quality control seems to be a major issue. The inner sleeves constantly have scuffs and/or debris on them. I’m also pretty sure they damaged the edges on one of my high value cards recently before grading (which of course I can never prove). I try not to complain much, but a slab arriving fresh out of the FedEx package with a crack in it seemed like a legit opportunity to reach out with a request to have corrected.

Both frustrating and somewhat comical I can’t get any type of response. I know they’ve plummeted in relevance and are probably short staffed, but I’m wondering if they are even around much longer.

Just an update on this (or lack thereof)…BGS finally responded to my original 10/30 email on 11/11 and asked for additional photos of the cracked case, which I promptly sent back to them that same day.

Since then, it’s been crickets from their side despite multiple follow ups on my end. Very frustrating. All I’ve asked from them is that they send me a label so I can send the slab back to have recased in a slab without any cracks. Not asking for any type of refund or anything.

I have no faith in their company anymore and won’t be sending any more items their way. Normally, I would’ve taken advantage of their Black Friday deal and sent a handful of cards to them, but I’m thinking they aren’t going to be around much longer and I’d hate to have a bunch of cards sitting at their facility.

[GuacamoleCards]

Originally Posted by ragingbull

if bgs does get sold, i hope it gets sold to a company whose owner understands trading cards.

frankly, this legal battle of lindberg might just drive bgs into bankruptcy. selling bgs i guess is the practical thing to do.

Understanding trading cards wouldn't be the highest on my personal list of qualifications for a successor owner. Quality and customer service, however, would be. The trading card game can be learned (or the expertise acquired via smart hiring), but a company with an ethos of quality and customer service (which starts with its leader) is something that has to be engrained from the onset.

Beckett's CEO is the old CEO of Southern Hobby, another scumbag company in the hobby with no regard for quality or customer service.

Beckett may have driven permanent nails into its own coffin by now, but I still hold out a little belief that new ownership and a leader who puts an emphasis on the right things could have a slight chance at turning it around.

[auburn35]

Looking back at some notes, thought this was worth sharing.
In one of the lawsuits against the owner of Beckett, it was mentioned that Beckett (and affiliates) were valued at 1.5~ Billion in 2022.
Would be really interesting to see a current valuation.

[jplarson]

Originally Posted by auburn35

Looking back at some notes, thought this was worth sharing.
In one of the lawsuits against the owner of Beckett, it was mentioned that Beckett (and affiliates) were valued at 1.5~ Billion in 2022.
Would be really interesting to see a current valuation.

Seems... optimistic.

[auburn35]

Not much of any specifics, but CllctMedia is reporting that Beckett has a new owner. Collēctīvus Holdings?

https://x.com/cllctMedia/status/1869...-ENvHXw_A&s=19

BREAKING: Beckett Media & Collectibles has a new parent company, Collēctīvus Holdings.

Deal includes lending agreements, the details of which have yet to be disclosed.

Full story to come.

[waytoomanycards]

I saw this little pr blurb that says Kevin Isaacson was the ceo of collectivus. I haven't really kept up with beckett, but another 2023 article said he was named ceo of beckett?

https://www.prbuzz.co/pr/1034676/col...southern-hobby

[auburn35]

Originally Posted by waytoomanycards

I saw this little pr blurb that says Kevin Isaacson was the ceo of collectivus. I haven't really kept up with beckett, but another 2023 article said he was named ceo of beckett?

https://www.prbuzz.co/pr/1034676/col...southern-hobby

Yeah, both of the quotes in that article were Beckett people, just with the new titles. Based on what has been shared, doesn't sound like a completely new ownership group. Will be interesting to learn more info about Collēctīvus.

https://www.cllct.com/sports-collect...parent-company

A spokesperson for Collēctīvus Holdings confirmed to cllct Tuesday the parent company is the result of a new “strategic plan” and not an acquisition.

[GuacamoleCards]

Was excited to read Beckett was acquired... until it was apparent that this is just the management of Beckett buying out the current troubled ownership.

Isaacson was the CEO of Southern Hobby, which he turned to #@#@#@#@, then became the CEO of Beckett under the same parent company of Southern, which he turned to #@#@#@#@. And Southern is also part of this new Collectivus group as well.

We can expect more of the same garbage from Beckett going forward.

[Archangel1775]

It's over, only a miracle could save this company. Though some will say that gemrate's numbers are "fake", I haven't seen one leader from BGS come out and say otherwise. Really, it's been over a decade since I've seen anything happen at Beckett that constitutes a "We care" attitude.


https://www.si.com/collectibles/news...gemrate-report

Lindberg pleaded guilty to an insurance fraud scheme that defrauded individuals and businesses of an estimated $2 billion. Court documents revealed that Lindberg took out a $100 million loan against BGS, for which the company allegedly only received $500,000.

[auburn35]

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

It's over, only a miracle could save this company. Though some will say that gemrate's numbers are "fake", I haven't seen one leader from BGS come out and say otherwise. Really, it's been over a decade since I've seen anything happen at Beckett that constitutes a "We care" attitude.


https://www.si.com/collectibles/news...gemrate-report

Beckett and other grading companies have questioned the gemrate data, especially in the early days of tracking.
I always thought it was funny that Beckett, specifically questioned why their BCCG totals () weren't being included. With the data coming directly from the population reports, any incorrect numbers are the linked to the individual grading companies.

[Dereth]

I went in to pick up an order at BGS today and the guy in front of me opened his freshly-graded order. I couldn’t see what type of cards that he had, but I saw that all five were graded BGS10. How is that even possible?

[3124508 on COMC]

Originally Posted by Dereth

I went in to pick up an order at BGS today and the guy in front of me opened his freshly-graded order. I couldn’t see what type of cards that he had, but I saw that all five were graded BGS10. How is that even possible?

Some people just have a eagle eye for that kind of thing.

[hxcmilkshake]

Originally Posted by Dereth

I went in to pick up an order at BGS today and the guy in front of me opened his freshly-graded order. I couldn’t see what type of cards that he had, but I saw that all five were graded BGS10. How is that even possible?

One was a base Mookie Betts from 2018.

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