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Old 11-18-2024, 08:52 PM   #1
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Default 2024 Panini WWE National Treasures

https://www.paniniamerica.net/2024-p...box-hobby.html

Looks like 10 cards total:
2 base
8 Autos or Mems

How much we thinking? $700? $1K? More?
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Old 11-18-2024, 09:22 PM   #2
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Panini's final WWE sticker dump?
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Old 11-18-2024, 09:34 PM   #3
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I'd imagine at the price point this ends up at it's a blood bath product. I'll enjoy buying singles!
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Old 11-18-2024, 09:38 PM   #4
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Will this house the Flawless cards we saw?
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Old 11-18-2024, 10:14 PM   #5
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Going to be very expensive. "Sticker Dump" sounds bad on paper but it really depends on how many stickers they have and of who. If they have too many Legend stickers leftover for example they could make some fun high-end cards with those. But I'm 100% sure it will be out of my buying range since Immaculate and Impeccable were.
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Old 11-19-2024, 03:35 AM   #6
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Look forward to at least 8 redemptions per box that never get redeemed!
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Old 11-19-2024, 09:27 AM   #7
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We're assuming stickers? I didn't see them but the Flawless were on-card right? I was assuming they wanted to go out on some high-end on-card after pushing out the sticker sets (Photogenic, Select, Three Count)

If this is sticker i'm avoiding regardless of price, especially when you can get on-card Immaculate or Impeccable prob cheaper and just figure out which one has the best checklist that isn't redemptions.
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Old 11-19-2024, 12:18 PM   #8
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I don’t care what kind of set they put out at this point. I have thousands of dollars worth of redemptions that will never be fulfilled and it irritates the hell out of me they keep pumping products out without making things right with the consumers they’ve purposely screwed around. I’ll start buying their product again as soon as I get my HHH/Orton/Batista triple on card auto.
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Old 11-19-2024, 01:35 PM   #9
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It's weird that we don't have any images of the cards alongside the listing. It feels like we'd already seen Tgree Count before the Panini site listed it.
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Old 11-19-2024, 05:13 PM   #10
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It's weird that we don't have any images of the cards alongside the listing. It feels like we'd already seen Tgree Count before the Panini site listed it.
That's due to "sell-sheets" sent out almost like press releases announcing what will be in the product and usually has preview mockup images. I think someone here and even Blowout posted it before the Panini site so you're right that you did see it first. National Treasures they put up on the site first for some reason which means info will likely come shortly.
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Old 11-19-2024, 05:32 PM   #11
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First Buzz: 2024 Panini National Treasures WWE wrestling cards >> BlowoutBuzz.com

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Old 11-19-2024, 05:41 PM   #12
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That Cody/Punk/Jade card is awesome. $550 a box means I'm probably in on one.
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All stickers at the price point is rough.
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Old 11-19-2024, 06:12 PM   #14
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All stickers at the price point is rough.
Yeah, I noticed that the more I looked at rhe cards. I think I'll wait for singles to pop up and see how I feel then.
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Old 11-19-2024, 06:12 PM   #15
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$550 for a poorly designed sticker dump with most big names missing? Count me in!
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Old 11-19-2024, 10:46 PM   #16
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That Cody/Punk/Jade card is awesome. $550 a box means I'm probably in on one.
Former AEW stars triple auto! That's a legendary troll job.
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Old 11-20-2024, 01:32 AM   #17
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Former AEW stars triple auto! That's a legendary troll job.
Was thinking the same thing lol. No chance this card was designed without AEW in mind

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Old 11-20-2024, 09:53 AM   #18
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So this is pretty much Topps Undisputed from a couple years ago, all in one pack, without 98% of the additional base and inserts...

Can't recall how high boxes of Undisputed got, 200'ish?
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So this is pretty much Topps Undisputed from a couple years ago, all in one pack, without 98% of the additional base and inserts...

Can't recall how high boxes of Undisputed got, 200'ish?
Undisputed was around $200 at launch, but I think I broke a ton of the first year product for around $180 since my LCS wanted to dump them since he didn't have any wrestling customers. I maintain that that product was the greatest wrestling product ever. At that time, flagship Topps WWE didn't even guarantee an auto and if you got one, it was a sticker. Undisputed was eight autos, mostly on-card, for $200. Amazing deal at the time.
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Similar in box construction, except that Undisputed if I recall was on-card, which to some will always have a bit of a premium. I know not everyone cares about that but 'higher end' products do have a little extra prestige if they aren't stickers.
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Old 11-20-2024, 12:04 PM   #21
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I loved Undisputed but I think we are giving it some overdue credit lol it did have stickers for the relic autos which if I remember Cena only had so one of the top guys didn't even have on-card lol the checklist really wasn't that great but that was the time when you wanted to hit top women before hitting top legends so possibly Sasha/Alexa/Bayley/Becky on-card autos and just the amount of females in general was the draw. The relics were all mat relics from what I remember, and resale was pretty garbage compared to what you'd expect from on-card sets today there wasn't much of a wrestling boom until Panini and it's like people shunned the set almost as it was about to go to Panini, and the high end guys went to Transcendent and lower end just bought cheaper on-card options like Heritage.

All stickers confirmed I'm passing on this, I wouldn't even want that triple all-stickers, but there are def differences between this and Undisputed.
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Old 11-20-2024, 02:51 PM   #22
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In retrospect, Panini did themselves a disservice by really nailing the 2022 Impeccable release. No stickers, very few redemptions, great design. And, all things considered and relative, a pretty reasonable price point for this era.

Just makes it hard to look at all the stickered "high end" releases that have come after - and particularly something like this which will likely be twice the price - and have any real positive feelings at all or anything to look forward to. If that AEW alumni triple is the best they can muster here...oy vey.

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Old 11-23-2024, 04:56 PM   #23
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Here I thought BO could sink no lower. $1500 presale for WWE National Treasures hobby. 2023 National Treasures Football is selling for $1200 a box. Of course, Im sure you can guess that as usual BO presale on that product was in no way close to reality of actual sales either.

WWE Prizm and WWE Select are selling below MSRP. Why the hell would anyone pay almost 3 times MSRP for this? You can buy a case of Select or Prizm right this second for less than the presale cost of 1 1/2 boxes of WWE National Treasures.

There is not 1 WWE Panini hobby product or even FOTL ever released that is selling $1000 or higher.

Over or under BO sells 1% of their allocation at $1500? How about at $1000? How about at $750? This product will be actually selling barely above MSRP around or right after release. If this company actually had any incentive to sell product, they would list presale at $650.
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Get ready for $5,000 boxes of Flawless.
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Get ready for $5,000 boxes of Flawless.
For $5000 a box, a diva of my choosing should drop it off at my house personally
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