Why don't baseball card collectors care about WS Rings?

[Brady7799]

With all due respect, rings don't even enter my mind when I'm collecting a player.

Maybe I'll collecting the wrong players?

[SliderCutter14]

Out of every player I ever collected, I think the Royals under Brett is the only "person" that won a ring with his drafted team... other cards I had from childhood had been pre-WS and out of those I think peak Braves had been the best era for collecting as players never chased the FA market to the scale of today. AL/NL Central in my opinion has pushed better stats across pitching+batting, teams that are too heavy on higher pitching or batting tend to flop hard. I'm waiting for the HR/power hitting strategy to fall apart due to declining batting averages, its unsustainable and any player batting under .200 looks like an idiot chasing every strike zone pitch... pitchers are saying secretly "have some meatballs and now you're full" and hello you're into Bobby Dalbec & Rob Deer zone.

Teams typically swap out players by the mid-point so rosters are rarely the same these days vs previous eras and coaches can figure out pushing stats outside of analytics(Tigers ignored analytics of using pitchers that had an ERA above 5.5 that could work the plate on a precision level than throwing fastballs at a stupidly high amounts. Look at this season, the Tigers nearly cleared house to free up their budget thinking a .500 win record had zero chance at a playoff. Their coach flipped the theory of a bad season into a good one, same can be said of the Mets and Yankees.

[no10pin]

Originally Posted by Brady7799

With all due respect, rings don't even enter my mind when I'm collecting a player.

Maybe I'll collecting the wrong players?

You need a different screen name then

[no10pin]

Originally Posted by rats60

That is interesting. I didn't realize Tom Brady played on Defense and Special Teams. All this time I thought Brady played less than half of the plays. It is amazing what you can learn on Blowout.

You knew what I meant, but I honestly didn't expect any less. I was talking about when a team is on offense trying to win a game late, and how different it is in baseball.

[seanbros55]

For the same reason that NFL/NBA “RPA’s” go from $10,000 to $65 in a matter of weeks.

[dk57]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

i think its the juice for him more than not winning

They say it for Biggio too. And if he juiced, he did a terrible job of it.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by dk57

They say it for Biggio too. And if he juiced, he did a terrible job of it.

had to get past the 3K Hit threshold somehow


p.s. the juice never bothered me

[dk57]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

had to get past the 3K Hit threshold somehow


p.s. the juice never bothered me

[PuddleMonkey]

Originally Posted by marl1220

And Mariano at 91?

I don't care that he was a closer. Put him on any contender and their championship chances rises drastically.

No failed starter should crack the top 100. You take your 91 and be happy with it!

[Brady7799]

Originally Posted by no10pin

You need a different screen name then

If my username was Tombrady7799, I'd completely agree.

Alas, it is not. I don't own a single Tom Brady card. i collect a few Steelers, however. 99.9% of my collection is baseball. Also no, to Brady Anderson.

Gosh, i must be doing this wrong too. =)

[DaveTaplin]

Baseball playoffs are more about luck than skill.

[Bosoxfan5990]

Originally Posted by DaveTaplin

Baseball playoffs are more about luck than skill.

Recently, yes. Historically, no.

[marl1220]

Originally Posted by PuddleMonkey

No failed starter should crack the top 100. You take your 91 and be happy with it!

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by DaveTaplin

Baseball playoffs are more about luck than skill.

There are 4 teams left. 3 of them have the highest payrolls in baseball. That's a lot of skill. But that's why they play a 7 game series, so its more skill than luck.

[ScooterD]

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

There are 4 teams left. 3 of them have the highest payrolls in baseball. That's a lot of skill. But that's why they play a 7 game series, so its more skill than luck.

I’m not sure that we can say that a high salary = high current skills

[Bosoxfan5990]

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

There are 4 teams left. 3 of them have the highest payrolls in baseball. That's a lot of skill. But that's why they play a 7 game series, so its more skill than luck.

Now do last year.

[marl1220]

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

There are 4 teams left. 3 of them have the highest payrolls in baseball. That's a lot of skill. But that's why they play a 7 game series, so its more skill than luck.

"Hot" can sometimes over come skill. It is not always the best team that wins the WS, IMO. It's the team that is playing the best at that time. I'd like to have the time, desire, and discipline to comb through all the stats to see how this usually works out.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by no10pin

You knew what I meant, but I honestly didn't expect any less. I was talking about when a team is on offense trying to win a game late, and how different it is in baseball.

I understand that you were disrespecting Adam Vinatieri who made the game winning field goal in the first two Pats Super Bowl wins, not to mention kicks to send the snow game against the Raiders into OT and the game winning kick in OT.

I understand that you were disrespecting the Patriots defenses who held the greatest show on turf Rams to 17 points, shut out the Falcons the last 23:30 of SB LI enabling the Pats to comeback and send the game to OT, and held the Rams to 3 points in SB LIII.

It is a team game. Give Brady the crappy Dolphin defenses that Dan Marino had and Tom Brady has the same number of rings that Marino has.

[Asian62150]

Originally Posted by marl1220

"Hot" can sometimes over come skill. It is not always the best team that wins the WS, IMO. It's the team that is playing the best at that time. I'd like to have the time, desire, and discipline to comb through all the stats to see how this usually works out.

I'd say hot often overcomes skill. Just getting to the playoffs consistently is so difficult.

What the Braves did in the 90s (all those division titles with 1 WS ring) was way more impressive than what the Marlins did between 1997-2003 (2 WS rings with no .500 seasons in between).

[YouTheManNick]

With the key word in the subject of this thread being "collectors." Everyone collects what and whom they collect for different reasons.

Some people like collecting cards of guys who played on their team's world series winning team. Some people like collecting cards of guys who just played on their team at any point.
Some people like collecting their team's greats.
Some people just like collecting greats. Period.
Some people like collecting guys from their home state.
Some people like collecting the player whom they just flat out enjoyed watching play.
Some people like collecting champions.
And on and on and on and on

It seems weird to try and lump all baseball card collectors into one thing or another. One of the best things (if not the best thing) about collecting cards is there are a ton of ways to collect and none of them are right and none are wrong. All that matters for collecting is what is right for you.

[no10pin]

Originally Posted by rats60

I understand that you were disrespecting Adam Vinatieri who made the game winning field goal in the first two Pats Super Bowl wins, not to mention kicks to send the snow game against the Raiders into OT and the game winning kick in OT.

I understand that you were disrespecting the Patriots defenses who held the greatest show on turf Rams to 17 points, shut out the Falcons the last 23:30 of SB LI enabling the Pats to comeback and send the game to OT, and held the Rams to 3 points in SB LIII.

It is a team game. Give Brady the crappy Dolphin defenses that Dan Marino had and Tom Brady has the same number of rings that Marino has.

Dude, you are adding way more to my one statement than was intended.

Individual superstar players can contribute more in crunch time in football and basketball. You have to wait your turn to hit in baseball. That is literally all I was saying.

If you want to keep playing semantics to be petty, go ahead.