Nat's Personal Collection

[jerryw]

Originally Posted by dizzy4111

Has the Robert Pack green been confirmed to exist?

im pretty sure another guy has actually complete the set (naz nubbz) i may be totally wrong but i thought i saw this somewhere

[imbluestreak23]

Originally Posted by Torro

Is Nat the reason why people started to FOMO into PMGs?

Please open a Beckett printed in 1997 and 1998

Thx

[jetta20162]

Originally Posted by jerryw

im pretty sure another guy has actually complete the set (naz nubbz) i may be totally wrong but i thought i saw this somewhere

The red set yes, but not the green one.

[Torro]

Originally Posted by imbluestreak23

Please open a Beckett printed in 1997 and 1998

Thx

People didn't care about PMGs in 1997 or 1998, people didn't even care about them in 2005 or 2010, up until 2015 people started to care more about them when some big collectors like Nat were talking about how special they are and the herd followed

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by Torro

People didn't care about PMGs in 1997 or 1998, people didn't even care about them in 2005 or 2010, up until 2015 people started to care more about them when some big collectors like Nat were talking about how special they are and the herd followed

I'd rather have a set chased by card nerds than by card instagram influencers.

Nat got people to chase PMG Greens.

Geoff told people to chase..... Desmond Ridder.

[johnscards]

Originally Posted by Torro

People didn't care about PMGs in 1997 or 1998, people didn't even care about them in 2005 or 2010, up until 2015 people started to care more about them when some big collectors like Nat were talking about how special they are and the herd followed

You couldn't be more wrong Were you collecting in 97/98?

[Torro]

Originally Posted by johnscards

You couldn't be more wrong Were you collecting in 97/98?

Yeah they were cool back then like many other cards/set, but value wise “no one cared”, you must admit that people are willing to pay crazy money for them. People didn’t care that much about them compared to other numbered stuff.

[imbluestreak23]

Originally Posted by Torro

People didn't care about PMGs in 1997 or 1998, people didn't even care about them in 2005 or 2010, up until 2015 people started to care more about them when some big collectors like Nat were talking about how special they are and the herd followed

Tell me you just joined the hobby without telling me you just joined the hobby.

It's okay to be wrong, just know that you are here.

[imbluestreak23]

Originally Posted by Torro

Yeah they were cool back then like many other cards/set, but value wise “no one cared”, you must admit that people are willing to pay crazy money for them. People didn’t care that much about them compared to other numbered stuff.

You realize that Beckett published reported sales of rare cards such as:
-Masterpeices
-Gem Masters
-97/98 AS GU Auto /23
-And yes, of course, the mythical PMGs?

Again, this is published record, printed, not fabricated in this century when you probably were a newborn. As I previously stated, go find you a run of those magazines and you will clearly see that based on the reported sales there was plenty of value, even when Bill was pokin' Monika

[mc1]

Originally Posted by Torro

Yeah they were cool back then like many other cards/set, but value wise “no one cared”, you must admit that people are willing to pay crazy money for them. People didn’t care that much about them compared to other numbered stuff.

Value wise? Well, nothing had much value back then. People cared about them, but youre trying to argue they werent pumped or worth huge amounts.

[johnscards]

Originally Posted by dizzy4111

Has the Robert Pack green been confirmed to exist?

I am curious about this as well. I would be devastated if I spent 10+ years building a set that is un-completable. For example, if for some whacky reason, no Robert Pack PMG Greens made it into packs because of an undocumented/unpublicized factory issue. That would be the worst!

[Nomad]

Originally Posted by Torro

Yeah they were cool back then like many other cards/set, but value wise “no one cared”, you must admit that people are willing to pay crazy money for them. People didn’t care that much about them compared to other numbered stuff.

They said that for years and then he up and won the cup challenge.

[Bcr]

Originally Posted by GuacamoleCards

It is slightly disconcerting that a man with a massive collection of high graded cards owns the company with the ability to issue (or not issue) any more high grades of those same cards.

There is absolutely a conflict of interest.

[dream34]

Anyone questioning Nat just hasn't been around long enough or hasn't paid any attention to him at all. Just watch the video, he has a story behind most every card - either how he obtained them or the card's history. He doesn't need to do cards, he just loves cards.

[duron]

Originally Posted by dream34

Anyone questioning Nat just hasn't been around long enough or hasn't paid any attention to him at all. Just watch the video, he has a story behind most every card - either how he obtained them or the card's history. He doesn't need to do cards, he just loves cards.

Not that it’s reason to outright crucify him, but it’s still important to remember things like this:

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1285177

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by Bcr

There is absolutely a conflict of interest.

Sure seems like it.

[LovelyLlamas]

PMG’s were like a unicorn for me back in 1997. I knew they existed and everyone saw the crazy multiplier for the Greens in Beckett. I bought so many packs and never found one. Same for Championship Edition.

I bought my Shareef PMG red back in 2011 and it’s one of my most treasured cards because I remember hunting for them back in the day. I started eBay in 2003 and it was amazing to see all these cards I had never seen before and only dreamed about pulling in packs.

It wasn’t just a pumping thing. The rubies and emeralds were near and dear for a lot of collectors who collected in the 90’s.

[90skid]

[r338]

Originally Posted by duron

Not that it’s reason to outright crucify him, but it’s still important to remember things like this:

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1285177

He was totally against uncharges in 2019. Probably not against them today.

[imbluestreak23]

Originally Posted by 90skid

Wonderful

Thank you.

Please, can we sticky this so future ninos don't spout nonsense?

[GuacamoleCards]

Originally Posted by hxcmilkshake

He was known for PMGs long before he became head of Collectors and they are not super high grades. If they were 9s and 10s then you'd be right.

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My comment is nothing personal towards Mr. Turner. I don’t know him, I’m sure he’s an awesome dude and he certainly seems like the kind of collector we all wish we could be.

But it doesn’t matter if it is him, or someone else, there is something slightly disconcerting to me about the implicit conflict of interest presented. I’m not even suggesting he would direct or do anything nefarious… but the thought may always be out there.

[GuacamoleCards]

Originally Posted by jaysfan80

Im confused, do you guys want someone who isnt a passionate collector being the head of the grading service??

In my opinion, being a passionate collector is at the bottom of the list of things that are important to me for the leader of a business like PSA.

As a customer of PSA, I mostly want it headed by someone who is passionate about:

1. Quality
2. Customer Service
3. Transparency

(Note, numbers 1 and 2 are what I value most in all the companies I frequently do business with and are the top priorities, along with safety, of all the companies I’ve had the pleasure of leading or being part of)

Mr Turner being a collector as well is a cool story, but takes a backseat to those other priorities for me

[GOATcards]

I remember the PMG green being a big deal as far back as the dotcom bubble, and always wondered why the appeal of a non-color-matched card. Must be ridiculous to behold in person for the 7-figure price they must command nowadays

[ninjacookies]

Respect. But bro was born with a swarovski spork in his throat. /nodiddy

And his salvaging of ailing CU stock pales in comparison to his namesake counterpart.



I find my ranked Ledell exploits far more impressive than his compilation of hedge fund slabbed acquisitions.


Got it out the mud.

[kingofsnake]