Legends nothing bad is ever said about

[GOATcards]

Tim 'The Big Fundamental' Duncan, for one.

I don't think I've heard anything bad about Mr. Russell, Magic, Larry Legend, Shaq 'The Big Aristotle' O'Neal, The Baby Faced Assassin, Joker, Dream Shake,

Here's bad things I hear about the following players:

MJ - helped by a system built around him, so nothing I guess?
um, he has a gambling problem? punched a teammate who surely deserved it? hounded Scott Burrell like a drill sergeant and so surely deserved it?
Um, abandoned his team to go play baseball?
Supposedly told his teammates not to pass to that no-name Center I can't . . . oh, Bill Cartwright? I'unno, would Timmy/Mr.Russell do the same? Sounds like Cartwright deserved it.
Not gonna suck his rod here or anything but remember that time that time his voice cracked on his 'Last Dance' documentary. Something about if you don't like to play that way, then don't play that way . . . break." All theatrics, shameless?

LeBron - we don't need to repeat it all here

Kareem - um,

Wilt - stat padder, cared more about body count than championships, not really into the team concept, used in a famous "how liberty upsets patterns" example by the philosopher Robert Nozick. (Anyone else here read 'Invariances' or 'Philosophical Explanations' or OMG 'The Examined Life' in addition to the excellent 'Anarchy, State and Utopia' which he did after thorough dialectic with left, right, center)

(strain is LA Zkittles)

Kobe - legal troubles, I'unno would Mrs. Russell and Duncan have that issue, uh, inefficient chucker?

Kareem - um, still can't think of anything, like he taunted/belittled Wilt CHUMPerlain that one time? Russell said something about Wilt's '69 "injury" that got the two unfriended for a quarter century. Dayammm!

Bad Boy Pistons - their "Jordan Rules" wouldn't be allowed today amirte, a lot more techs would be called or something. or maybe the game was just different back then

KD - team-hopper, bus-rider, self-proclaimed God?

Jerry West - unfairly but entertainingly portrayed in 'Winning Time,' nothing really ever bad said about him, just the opposite

Lulu Legend in the Making? (he needs at least *one* chip, surely?) - whines to the refs a lot, I mean the refs suck of course, everyone knows it, you have every right to lobby them, I just don't know how effective it is when you're taking out the extra time to berate the idiot refs, where's JVG these days to lend his implicit/explicit support to Luka Legend Already? (been stocking up a lil')

Joker - hates to play defense (leaves it all to Air Gordon and KCP)

Giannis Ah-dedo-koom-bo (pronunciation at BK-R) - getting injured too much lately come playoff time

(LA Kush crossed with Zkittles)

Oscar Robertson - um, the only guy besides Wilt or Russell to win a MVP in that one decade span? averaged a triple double over a whole 5-season span, look it up. should had better support!

KG - too intense, not a real leader or clutch player like Timmy, always in Timmy's shadow given their near-identical birth dates

Ben Wallace Pistons - couldn't prove their worth up against the '05 Timmy Spurs, where he got his 3rd Finals MVP

also, Mr. Russell had too much support, he's just the GOAT on defense or something, also BBIQ GOAT and player-coach bone fides, nothing exceptional there, supported by a system just like Timmy. those f'ing balloons are staying up there

[Scottish Punk]

Magic screwed everything under the sun while he was married. He got HIV from a stripper (allegedly). He defiantly got it from having sex with 100's of women if nothing else.

[JMStang]

Dirk- The most beloved player of the Mavs fan base and gracious and humble person.


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[GOATcards]

Originally Posted by JMStang

Dirk- The most beloved player of the Mavs fan base and gracious and humble person.


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I have him in the near-Legends category but that's 'nother rabbit hole

just sticking to these top 18 for now?

[jcardstore]

Was 03-04 Ben Wallace really a legend?

[Bosoxfan5990]

Steph Curry

[GOATcards]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

Was 03-04 Ben Wallace really a legend?

ya got me lol

[GOATcards]

if Lulu Darling at age 25 is already being compared to Prime Jokic, he just basically needs to remain healthy to cement Lulu Legend status despite the whining? he's just an emotionally animated guy i've noticed, good for him
(strain is One Piece = Wedding Cake x unknown)

[Asian62150]

Originally Posted by Scottish Punk

Magic screwed everything under the sun while he was married. He got HIV from a stripper (allegedly). He defiantly got it from having sex with 100's of women if nothing else.

Yup. I think Magic even admitted as much in an interview.

Kobe also had bad things to say about Shaquille's love life. Didn't he put his "business" out on the street?

[kipgen]

Are we talking like in terms of them as a player or them as a person?

[ThatGuyPal]

Never though I'd see the phrase "Not gonna suck his rod on here or anything" on this board.

[gomiamigo]

Julius Erving.

[GOATcards]

Originally Posted by gomiamigo

Julius Erving.

see it's Dr J and Moses who are the test cases here, Doc didn't win nuttin' without Moses and vice versa. 1 chip between the two of 'em, that's like half a chip each, so that's the question to ask, is whether players with half a chip are legends, but I did also include the Ben Wallace Pistons for no reason

[GOATcards]

Originally Posted by kipgen

Are we talking like in terms of them as a player or them as a person?

my posting appears to include quite a bit of both, they're often intertwined apparently?

[Chris P]

Originally Posted by gomiamigo

Julius Erving.

He had a couple of kids from affairs, one was a pro tennis player

[GOATcards]

the only reason Jordan gets credit for winning game 6 in '98 is because he choked on that 3 attempt at the end of game 5

[stalemonkey30]

I would say most NBA players have probably done questionable things, 20 year olds with that kind of money will do that. Doesn't James Harden basically live at the strip club?

[duron]

Originally Posted by Scottish Punk

Magic screwed everything under the sun while he was married. He got HIV from a stripper (allegedly). He defiantly got it from having sex with 100's of women if nothing else.

Magical Johnson

[mc1]

Duncan and Shaq had some critics.

[GuacamoleCards]

Wonder if there is anyone with a bad thing to say about David Robinson

[imbluestreak23]

Originally Posted by Scottish Punk

Magic screwed everything under the sun while he was married. He got HIV from a stripper (allegedly). He defiantly got it from having sex with 100's of women if nothing else.

Paging Isaiah Thomas

[Quake1028]

Shaq faced plenty of justified criticism in his career.

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by GOATcards

Tim 'The Big Fundamental' Duncan, for one.

Apparently you never caught his divorce proceeding transcripts.







Never heard a single soul cast shade on Al Cervi.

[duron]

The Duncan hitting on a D-list (male) comic story is also… something.

[GOATcards]

Originally Posted by GuacamoleCards

Wonder if there is anyone with a bad thing to say about David Robinson

I place him in near-legend territory, was 2nd fiddle to Timmy on championship teams, was also 2nd fiddle to Hakeem who never proved himself in the Finals against MJ (who abandoned the team for baseball, the selfish jerk?)

Also, MJ never proved himself against Hakeem, he choked against the '95 Shaq team anyway and they went 0-4 against Dream,

why did Hakeem have only ~2.4 MVP Award Shares BTW? MJ would have been eating up a good chunk of all that, he competed away ~8.1 Award Shares from other players in total so let's break it down (he did sure split some award share with Magic . . . Johnson)