2023 Marvel Fleer Ultra Midnight Sons

[Icollectstuff]

Originally Posted by Chrominator

Can anyone pls explain the benefits of buying a box vs 1-2 epacks at a time, if any?

If it's just a guaranteed #'d card, how low is it or could it be any #'d card (i.e. blue /180)?

So far I've been buying only 1-2 packs at a time and feel like I've done pretty good w/ #'d cards overall...

But if I'm missing something about ripping a box plmk, thx!

Here are the pros of opening a box vs a bunch of random packs

1) a box is cheaper than opening the same number of random packs
2) you are guaranteed whatever hits are guaranteed for that box

Personally I buy by the pack more than I do actual boxes because my best hits seem to come when I buy random packs

[glorbgorb]

Originally Posted by mjohnatgt

I don't think that's the case. I think they actually are in "boxes", because when you buy one, you have to actually "open box" before it will let you open packs. If it was just the next 6/12/15 packs in the queue, they would just load that many packs in your account and you wouldn't have to "open" a box that didn't exist to get access to packs.
Just my conjecture, but it makes sense to me. Why code extra work to simulate opening a box, just to waste the time of someone opening multiple boxes in a row?

I dunno, you could do it with a couple of lines of code. It's to carry on the illusion.

If it were ever possible to get to the point of them having 1 box only of a given product, then you know a box is a box and just not a string of consecutive packs. You would know if it were ONLY a box and zero packs remaining.

Same way with cases. I know we can see when there are 99 or less cases as people refresh sometimes to gauge how long something will stick around. I doubt people are buying cases at a time that often; so I have to assume when you buy a "box" it takes a "case" away, but really it's again just grabbing a run of packs in order.

Honestly, from my basic programming background, it would be easier to code everything from a pack level then to designate products at a case, box, and pack level. I could sketch it on the back of a napkin pretty easily. You can't have only cases available, as the buyer pool for a case is much smaller for a box; and you can't have only boxes available as the buyer for individual packs is larger. Have you ever seen a product on Pack that has only cases available? Only boxes? They're just increments of packs.

(Again, all guessing, but still a fun thought experiment!)

[chrispy987]

I had no idea this was even autographed until I looked at the back.

[Xazark]

Originally Posted by glorbgorb

I dunno, you could do it with a couple of lines of code. It's to carry on the illusion.

If it were ever possible to get to the point of them having 1 box only of a given product, then you know a box is a box and just not a string of consecutive packs. You would know if it were ONLY a box and zero packs remaining.

Same way with cases. I know we can see when there are 99 or less cases as people refresh sometimes to gauge how long something will stick around. I doubt people are buying cases at a time that often; so I have to assume when you buy a "box" it takes a "case" away, but really it's again just grabbing a run of packs in order.

Honestly, from my basic programming background, it would be easier to code everything from a pack level then to designate products at a case, box, and pack level. I could sketch it on the back of a napkin pretty easily. You can't have only cases available, as the buyer pool for a case is much smaller for a box; and you can't have only boxes available as the buyer for individual packs is larger. Have you ever seen a product on Pack that has only cases available? Only boxes? They're just increments of packs.

(Again, all guessing, but still a fun thought experiment!)

The programming side of it is fairly easy either way described above (faking it on a pack by pack basis or actually having case-box-pack opening), I believe when we discussed it last on these forums we determined it wasn't possible for them to have completely separate case/box/pack pools as the programming on that would be significantly more difficult and would need to rely on automation to swap cases/boxes around to allow for people to purchase the lower tier.

From my own experience in programming assigning values to each pack that includes which box and case it came from is the most likely scenario and then its a simple if statement to check when a case is no longer a complete case and how many unopened cases are left. Effectively when CaseXBox1Pack1 is opened, CaseX and Box1 are no longer full cases/boxes therefore can't be sold as such, box 2-12 in that case can still be sold as boxes tho until pack1 of each box is opened.

Having said that, I have seen far simpler systems programmed in far more convoluted ways so you never know I guess, its probably spaghetti code that was initially built to run a very simple system that has been patched and patched and patched and now resembles nothing like its initial implementation.

ok enough ranting from me

[Chrominator]

Originally Posted by chrispy987

I had no idea this was even autographed until I looked at the back.

the Meister!

[js0000001]

Is there anyway to rip the crack in the tombstone cards in epacks?

[finfangfan]

I know everyone has n ePack has moved onto Marvel Flair but I still think there are some cool singles to pick up from FUMS. The comic cuts in this set are pretty strong… picked up this cool Werewolf by Night cut with COMC credit (largely from slab sales)…

[Chrominator]

Originally Posted by js0000001

Is there anyway to rip the crack in the tombstone cards in epacks?

Been wondering the same thing, but don't think so.

[finfangfan]

Picked up another cool clipping…

[glorbgorb]

Originally Posted by finfangfan

I know everyone has n ePack has moved onto Marvel Flair but I still think there are some cool singles to pick up from FUMS. The comic cuts in this set are pretty strong…

Most of the Cuts I have seen in the open are more relevant to the Midnight Sons corner of the Marvel universe than your average Marvel product. The niche-ness of it definitely helped for collectors and fans of those characters. Of course, something like Spider-Man or Avengers is so broad.

[finfangfan]

Weird that the Tomb of Dracula cover on back of Clippings card is blank… can anyone think of any reason why this would happen? Was there a red blank sketch cover reprint and an intern grabbed the wrong cover image?

[Chrominator]

Good news: I finally got this achievement



Bad news: Top-right corner has no corner... wtf?

I put way too much effort into this for a wrecked card... smh

[finfangfan]

Is the scan just a generic image or the live card? Maybe reach out to ePack customer service before you transfer it to alert them on the damage?

[Chrominator]

Originally Posted by finfangfan

Is the scan just a generic image or the live card? Maybe reach out to ePack customer service before you transfer it to alert them on the damage?

Yep, it is the generic scan... feel a bit better now, thx FFF!

I sure as heck hope they don't send that one to anyone tho!

[Chrominator]

eFUMS is 25% off right now

[Marvel Card]

Been tracking the inserts opened since the sale and the 25% barely did anything and over 70% of epack inventory is still available. This is going to 50% off eventually.

Then after that happens, 75% off becomes a possibility...

[Chrominator]

Originally Posted by Marvel Card

Been tracking the inserts opened since the sale and the 25% barely did anything and over 70% of epack inventory is still available. This is going to 50% off eventually.

Then after that happens, 75% off becomes a possibility...

[Chrominator]

I've ripped a handful since the sale started, pulled this gold spectrum





I'll take it

[csmtampa]

Originally Posted by Chrominator

I've ripped a handful since the sale started, pulled this gold spectrum





I'll take it

That is AWESOME!!

[Marvel Card]

Originally Posted by Marvel Card

Been tracking the inserts opened since the sale and the 25% barely did anything and over 70% of epack inventory is still available. This is going to 50% off eventually.

Then after that happens, 75% off becomes a possibility...

Well now that 50% off is here, will see how that moves the numbers. If it doesn’t to a great degree, 75% off is next.

[Sickleclaw]

Yeah, I think 75 percent off would do it...I still am a bit upset that the 75 percent off happened day before thanksgiving and I was so busy all morning I didnt get a chance until it was sold out.

But this one, theres still many inserts available.

[ddilts399]

Midnight appears to be a much better buy as singles havent been a lot of huge sales on anything on the bay so not a lot of lottery to chase even at 7.50 a pack. I do like the set, but the x10 base to upgrade at that price just no value there. Better served paying more and buying physical boxes.

[finfangfan]

I think it’s a cool looking set that got lost in the shuffle of Upper Deck throwing out (throwing up?) too many Marvel sets to cash in before they lost the license. I’ve been picking up singles of this on COMC with credit which I have been doing a lot lately for much of the hobby as finding value in opening packs/boxes is still kind of hard post-COVID.

[Chrominator]

6th pack


Blade Vs. Wolverine Fleer Ultra Midnight Sons Spellcraft Stories Gold Spectrum Parallel, OE2 #1/1

[Sickleclaw]

Saw your luck and decided to test mine.

Tried a pack after seeing the 1/1...




Okay Im going to sell this right away and not touch another pack today lmao. Used up all my luck there.