Reek: “my momma didn’t raise me like that”

[SethMurphy]

Originally Posted by SandStoneSports

I am not going to cry for teachers who get 75 days a year off.

Actually they get 185 days off a year. School is typically 180 days a year.

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by ThatGuyPal

I mean the cops don't even go in schools with active shooters in Texas doesn't sounds that dangerous lol probably more dangerous being a teacher since you don't have a weapon and probably deal with more potential danger daily.

Tyreek probably would of stiff-armed that ambush that's probably why he is paid so much.

This is a fun thread, glad it was made

Originally Posted by ninjabum87

It's not even in the top ten most dangerous jobs. MF'ers be making deep six figures in larger cities with OT. You can see what each one makes using your state's public employee salary site. If you work in Mayberry sure, you're making less, but then your job's even easier. Compare Mayberry's police salaries with their teacher salaries if you want a good laugh and are interested in seeing what real "bad pay" looks like.

I'm not sure where this is going with some of you. There is a higher risk of death on a daily basis to being a police officer versus a teacher or Miami Dolphins receiver. I'm also not going to hate on someone making a career choice to be a teacher, law enforcement, military for that matter. Accepting the risk is inherent to the job. In other words, they understand what is at risk.

Staying on topic, as long as the officer stayed within department policy, I have no problem with putting a famous person(sometimes in their own minds) in handcuffs, within reason. Like I said, some people don't know what these guys look like without helmets and numbers.

[SleeperCards]

Originally Posted by Floridacardguy

Very pro cop here

No one's shocked here.

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by SleeperCards

No one's shocked here.

Being from California, I understand what the "defund the police" movement can do to a society and culture. One point is happening here in this forum, even speaking one's positive opinion about law enforcement can get them ostracized. It's affected the culture of America so much, the young generation of men don't even want to go into law enforcement anymore. Pull statistics from police academies from your area. This issue with Tyreek Hill is a great example of the "Why bother' attitude. If the officer did wrong, he should be held accountable. If he stayed within Department Policy, then he should keep his job but he'll already be branded a racist or crooked cop I'm sure. We can move to the Off-Topic thread if you want to deep dive on real solutions. We can go further down the rabbit hole too.

[TheFrenzy]

Originally Posted by Floridacardguy

Very pro cop here, but in that video I saw very little to warrant forcing him to the ground. Could he have rolled his window down all the way to begin with? Sure, but barring some major offense or fighting police I see zero reason to have him down on the ground. There’s a reason one or more cops are on sabbatical

First, you write beautifully.

Second, I agree with everything you wrote.

[Siberian13]

I wish everyone would stop picking on Tyreek. He didn’t do nothing wrong.

[TheFrenzy]

Originally Posted by SethMurphy

Actually they get 185 days off a year. School is typically 180 days a year.

Exactly.

There's no way I'd have almost 50k posts here if I had a real job.

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

Exactly.

There's no way I'd have almost 50k posts here if I had a real job.

People thought teaching was a job? Bunch of dum dums

[SleeperCards]

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

Being from California, I understand what the "defund the police" movement can do to a society and culture. One point is happening here in this forum, even a speaking one's positive opinion about law enforcement can get them ostracized. It's affected the culture of America so much, the young generation of men don't even want to go into law enforcement anymore. Pull statistics from police academies from your area. This issue with Tyreek Hill is a great example of the "Why bother' attitude. If the officer did wrong, he should be held accountable. If he stayed within Department Policy, then he should keep his job but he'll already be branded a racist or crooked cop I'm sure. We can move to the Off-Topic thread if you want to deep dive on real solutions. We can go further down the rabbit hole too.

He's not ostracized for being "pro cop" he's ostracized for being a moron and I was simply stating that him being "pro cop" is not shocking, given the fact that he is a moron. Hopefully that clears it up.

[TheFrenzy]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

People thought teaching was a job? Bunch of dum dums

They should have had better teachers.

[Siberian13]

Anyone think Tyreek’s son watched the video and was thankful?

[majestik101]

Oh good, Jemele Hill has already voiced her crazy opinions on X about what she thinks of the situation that occurred yesterday.

[Bosoxfan5990]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

Anyone think Tyreek’s son watched the video and was thankful?

Which one?

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by majestik101

Oh good, Jemele Hill has already voiced her crazy opinions on X about what she thinks of the situation that occurred yesterday.

She’s hilarious.

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by Bosoxfan5990

Which one?

[ninjabum87]

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

I'm not sure where this is going with some of you. There is a higher risk of death on a daily basis to being a police officer versus a teacher or Miami Dolphins receiver. I'm also not going to hate on someone making a career choice to be a teacher, law enforcement, military for that matter. Accepting the risk is inherent to the job. In other words, they understand what is at risk.

Staying on topic, as long as the officer stayed within department policy, I have no problem with putting a famous person(sometimes in their own minds) in handcuffs, within reason. Like I said, some people don't know what these guys look like without helmets and numbers.

Police is like 17th by injury rate behind things like delivery truck driver, construction worker, loggers, fishery workers, electricians, farmers, steel workers, etc. And few of those dudes sniff a fraction of what big city cops make. Funnily enough thats injury rates. If you focus on fatalities only they drop to 21st behind the same groups but add in firefighters, highway maintenance workers, crane operators, garbage collectors, etc.

You have a higher statistical chance of dying in a traffic accident than as a cop on the job.

Miami PD has over 1200 officers and sergeants who have made over 98k year to date. 200 of those have made over 150k YTD. That ain't counting liuetenants or captains. And we still have four months to go if their YTD means calendar year. Even if it's FYTD still a whole month left to go if they end 9/30. That's big boi money for Florida.

They love to convince themselves and others they're downtrodden and misunderstood victims, but if I fk up at my job I get in trouble but probably just force a system to need to be restored. If a cop fks up they can kill people, ruin lives forever, and because of their strong unions still retain employment or bounce somewhere else. They should be held to an insanely high standard. I think they should be paid quite a lot but also held to insanely high standards where if you screw up bad enough you're not only out of work at this department but at all others as well.

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by ninjabum87

Police is like 17th by injury rate behind things like delivery truck driver, construction worker, loggers, fishery workers, electricians, farmers, steel workers, etc. And few of those dudes sniff a fraction of what big city cops make. Funnily enough thats injury rates. If you focus on fatalities only they drop to 21st behind the same groups but add in firefighters, highway maintenance workers, crane operators, garbage collectors, etc.

You have a higher statistical chance of dying in a traffic accident than as a cop on the job.

Miami PD has over 1200 officers and sergeants who have made over 98k year to date. 200 of those have made over 150k YTD. That ain't counting liuetenants or captains. And we still have four months to go if their YTD means calendar year. Even if it's FYTD still a whole month left to go if they end 9/30. That's big boi money for Florida.

Interesting, where did you pull these stats? I'm really curious. As I stated, there is inherent risk to being a police officer. They deal with people both good and bad every day. Seems the statistics of injury and death are after the fact, not the daily risk. I would imagine fishing on a boat or repaving the road is a lot different than pulling over a stolen car with multiple known gang members within. Maybe there is a reason department policies that are based on state and federal law exist? To prevent said injury and death......

So in Hill's case, he was pulled over for a traffic violation and was apparently being difficult by rolling his window up and down. From a quick search, Florida law requires that drivers puleld over for a traffic infraction follow lawful orders. Apparently that includes rolling your window down. Clearly Hill thought he could play the window game in Florida. I'd like to see the body cam footage though. He was also told to sit down, which he refused. Personally I dont like that crap but if its consdiered a lawful order, so be it. Calais Campbell being detained for involving himself as a third party is a normal occurence in any state.

As for pay, its likely a lot of overtime. People just dont want to be cops anymore. That's a huge failure in this society. The pool gets smaller and the best and brightest become less and less. The only influence that can effect the pool is the culture of the department and even that's being attacked by the people and politicians. Simply put, you get what you get.

[kyle1707]

Not sure if posted. Did not read all posts

https://x.com/barstoolsports/status/...481757517?s=42

[kyle1707]

He seems like a little kid who can’t follow directions.

Keeps yelling for his agent drew.

Very odd

[ninjabum87]

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

Interesting, where did you pull these stats? I'm really curious. As I stated, there is inherent risk to being a police officer. They deal with people both good and bad every day. Seems the statistics of injury and death are after the fact, not the daily risk. I would imagine fishing on a boat or repaving the road is a lot different than pulling over a stolen car with multiple known gang members within. Maybe there is a reason department policies that are based on state and federal law exist? To prevent said injury and death......

So in Hill's case, he was pulled over for a traffic violation and was apparently being difficult by rolling his window up and down. From a quick search, Florida law requires that drivers puleld over for a traffic infraction follow lawful orders. Apparently that includes rolling your window down. Clearly Hill thought he could play the window game in Florida. I'd like to see the body cam footage though. He was also told to sit down, which he refused. Personally I dont like that crap but if its consdiered a lawful order, so be it. Calais Campbell being detained for involving himself as a third party is a normal occurence in any state.

Census of Fatal Occupational Injuries (CFOI)

How often is a guy paving roads out on the road doing his job and how often is an individual cop standing outside a "stolen car full of gang members"? Logic suggests the former is a lot more exposure time to fast traffic than the latter.

Cops face dangerous situations but it's not a movie. Most beat cops aren't getting lit up by MS13 on the daily. They do like to amplify the examples of the danger they face, though. It's why so many of them treat rolling around suburban Tampa like they're driving around in a convoy in Mogadishu.

Tyreek can get fk'd. Dude hasn't faced much justice at all for any of the stunts he has pulled.

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by ninjabum87

They love to convince themselves and others they're downtrodden and misunderstood victims, but if I fk up at my job I get in trouble but probably just force a system to need to be restored. If a cop fks up they can kill people, ruin lives forever, and because of their strong unions still retain employment or bounce somewhere else. They should be held to an insanely high standard. I think they should be paid quite a lot but also held to insanely high standards where if you screw up bad enough you're not only out of work at this department but at all others as well.

I haven't seen that attitude. They usually retire or choose another career path. However, I do agree that accountability is important on all levels when a mistake is made. Whether we like it or not, we have seen a dynamic shift in expectations of police offcers and the consequences that follow. There are many headlines of officer's being arrested for manslaughter and assault and rightfully so. I would expect that to be normalized but the pay has to equal that risk as well.

That great saying, "To be human is to error" applies in the Tyreek Hill case. The officer could learn from this IF he made a mistake in applying department policy. As long as its not egregious, he'll become a better officer because of the mistake. If he followed it, why should Tyreek Hill be treated any differently? Do we really want the baseline to have a gray area? I'd say no.

[cnewby]

Maybe he could have rolled down his window.

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by kyle1707

Not sure if posted. Did not read all posts

https://x.com/barstoolsports/status/...481757517?s=42

I’m shocked.

[Floridacardguy]

Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

First, you write beautifully.

Second, I agree with everything you wrote.

Thank you sir

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by ninjabum87

Census of Fatal Occupational Injuries (CFOI)

How often is a guy paving roads out on the road doing his job and how often is an individual cop standing outside a "stolen car full of gang members"? Logic suggests the former is a lot more exposure time to fast traffic than the latter.

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Dont know about Florida but I know in California with how long it takes for those contractors to finish paving those roads, they aren't out there that often. Haha. For real though, they close the roads out here more time than not. As for the gang member example, though a bit extreme, Los Angeles and its surrounding areas has a lot of BS going on.