2023 Marvel Fleer Ultra Midnight Sons

[LittleJimmies]

Originally Posted by glorbgorb

I'm a sucker for acetate cards. That's way better than a simple foil color change for combined cards.

Everyone send their Venoms my way please.

[1992UDFootball]

Still no Masterpieces, must be saving that for the end of the license.

[js0000001]

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2023 Fleer Ultra Midnight Sons - Medallions - Purple Amethyst #M-40 - Scarlet Witch /35
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2023 Fleer Ultra Midnight Sons - Medallions - Purple Amethyst #M-40 - Scarlet Witch /35
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[LittleJimmies]

Originally Posted by js0000001

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2023 Fleer Ultra Midnight Sons - Medallions - Purple Amethyst #M-40 - Scarlet Witch /35
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That's an awesome card, scan definitely not doing it any justice.

[Chrominator]

Originally Posted by js0000001

2023 Fleer Ultra Midnight Sons - Medallions - Purple Amethyst #M-40 - Scarlet Witch /35


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Awesome hit

[gospeed3]

bought about 9 packs got inserts and a couple blue parallels of stinky characters, a booklet and this is my best hit i guess at least if its midnight suns i got a ghostrider super short print although all the corners look dinged. im done with this product now.

[Scifi Cards]

Originally Posted by 1992UDFootball

Still no Masterpieces, must be saving that for the end of the license.

Makes some sense from a business standpoint...

Put the ones that will take some (a lot) time to sell up first so they have time to sell, or even be put on sale.

MM and Premier will each sell out quickly, so no reason to rush them to ePack. Might as well let other products take in some money instead of having MM eat up all the available funds.

MM will sell, even if they lose the license 12/31 and they post it on Christmas eve. Result is still a sell out, especially if people know it's their one and only chance.

Ed

[chrispy987]

No serial numbered cards.

One sketch by Noval Hernawan.

[LittleJimmies]

Upper Deck really did an awesome job with the medallions acetate achievement cards. I hadn't realized they were image variations on top of the acetate (not my cards). I'd love to get my hands on a couple characters.



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[Marvel Card]

Uhh…is it just me or can the back logos be seen on the front of the acetate parallels? Holy … if so. Don’t want to take away from anyone collecting acetate medallions but I’m not touching those with a 10 foot pole. Seemingly would be a serious QA issue.

[Dredd84]

Originally Posted by Marvel Card

Uhh…is it just me or can the back logos be seen on the front of the acetate parallels? Holy … if so. Don’t want to take away from anyone collecting acetate medallions but I’m not touching those with a 10 foot pole. Seemingly would be a serious QA issue.

Isn’t that the way it’s supposed to be? There’s no solid design on the bottom of the front of the card to block the logos from being seen on the front like these acetate cards have.

[mjohnatgt]

Originally Posted by Marvel Card

Uhh…is it just me or can the back logos be seen on the front of the acetate parallels? Holy … if so. Don’t want to take away from anyone collecting acetate medallions but I’m not touching those with a 10 foot pole. Seemingly would be a serious QA issue.

#seethroughcardsgonnaseethrough

[Marvel Card]

Originally Posted by Dredd84

Isn’t that the way it’s supposed to be? There’s no solid design on the bottom of the front of the card to block the logos from being seen on the front like these acetate cards have.

Even in this image the back logos are hidden by the front bottom designs. In the scans on epack, you literally can see the reverse of the back logos. I collect a bunch of acetates and have never seen this before.

[Dredd84]

Originally Posted by Marvel Card

Even in this image the back logos are hidden by the front bottom designs. In the scans on epack, you literally can see the reverse of the back logos. I collect a bunch of acetates and have never seen this before.

I feel like that’s the way it should be. Without something on the front to block the logos, they should be showing reverse when looking at it from the front? I could be totally missing something, but it looks correct to me?


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[1992UDFootball]

Gotta say, really liking the base card art and the acetates.

Hate it still seems overpriced.

[Icollectstuff]

I'm not understanding the issue with being able to see the back design on a clear card... there is no color to block it so it will show... heck even when there is color on the front you can still sometimes see the back through the color on the front... I know this isn't a hockey section but check the bottom gray part you can see print from the back through the gray

[Dredd84]

Originally Posted by Icollectstuff

I'm not understanding the issue with being able to see the back design on a clear card... there is no color to block it so it will show... heck even when there is color on the front you can still sometimes see the back through the color on the front... I know this isn't a hockey section but check the bottom gray part you can see print from the back through the gray

I’m not either and that’s an even better example than the one I showed.


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[Marvel Card]

Maybe the sports guys are used to this, but I’m definitely not. Seeing anything on the back, through the front of the card is an eyesore (personally speaking). I was hyped to see UD making use of the medallions for buyers through these exclusives but I am not touching these acetates.

[Chrominator]

[LittleJimmies]

Originally Posted by Marvel Card

Maybe the sports guys are used to this, but I’m definitely not. Seeing anything on the back, through the front of the card is an eyesore (personally speaking). I was hyped to see UD making use of the medallions for buyers through these exclusives but I am not touching these acetates.

I couldn't care less about seeing the logos from the back, but I get your preference for thoughtfully designing the card to hide the back elements. I hope a lot more people care like you do so I can grab some cheaper!

[Icollectstuff]

Originally Posted by Marvel Card

Maybe the sports guys are used to this, but I’m definitely not. Seeing anything on the back, through the front of the card is an eyesore (personally speaking). I was hyped to see UD making use of the medallions for buyers through these exclusives but I am not touching these acetates.

Ok now I think you are just complaining to complain because I collect marvel cards also and this happens there also

[Marvel Card]

Originally Posted by LittleJimmies

I couldn't care less about seeing the logos from the back, but I get your preference for thoughtfully designing the card to hide the back elements. I hope a lot more people care like you do so I can grab some cheaper!

As one of the few guys who gold rainbow foiled up the complete FUA set, I have no doubts the acetate market prices will benefit from me not being in it ha

[Marvel Card]

Originally Posted by Icollectstuff

Ok now I think you are just complaining to complain because I collect marvel cards also and this happens there also

That’s good for you, I don’t collect entry level Marvel.

[jjas311]

Originally Posted by Marvel Card

That’s good for you, I don’t collect entry level Marvel.

They sold FUA at Walmart. If FUA isn’t “entry level”, it’s just a notch above.

[Marvel Card]

Originally Posted by jjas311

They sold FUA at Walmart. If FUA isn’t “entry level”, it’s just a notch above.

And yet, a notch above entry level is still not entry level. Anybody who believes FUA is entry level, just quit assessing the marvel market.

This is a lower premium than FUA but still not entry level. The fleer ultra brand, is on par with brands like metal. These brands are considered premium products by the brand managers themselves. Beginnings, annual, etc are more entry, this is not my words this is literally the UD brand managers for marvel cards that go on podcasts with the streamers/breakers.

The point of my original post is I don’t like the back logos being seen on the front of the card. It looks cheap and lazy, and while it may exist in other lines it’s still looks cheap and lazy. To give an example of a premium character on an entry level set further supports my point, it looks like something that would be in an entry level set. It’s clear some people don’t mind it, I do.

The insert looks cheap, and in my opinion they made what should’ve been premium into a very cheap product. Most marvel acetates don’t have this - you can see front on back but not back on front. There’s a reason why this type of FUMS acetate is more the exception than the rule. Knowing marvel has done this on another set was news to me, but it was news to me because I don’t collect entry level marvel products. You simply don’t see this on more premium brands.

That stuff aside, people are paying $3-6 per base medallion for high tier characters. Ridiculous. There’s literally at least 29,834 epack boxes of this stuff, meaning there’s at least 3,580 copies of each base medallion, enough to acetate 358 times. Conservatively, let’s just say half get combined for 179 copies. This is nowhere nowhere near a rare insert. And yet people are currently paying what essentially is $30-60 for a higher tier character. Nuts.

This has a much much larger epack run than FUA. I still maintain that physical will breach $110/box and my newest guess is that this will be discounted on epack by end of this year. If these aren’t 25% off on epack at some point, I will be absolutely astonished.