WWE Discussion thread- Raw/SD/PPV

[jmarascojr]

Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

I don't understand why people would expect Jey to just show up with Roman and Jimmy. There isn't anything logical about that. If it becomes bloodline vs bloodline the story is more than likely gonna be Jimmy and Roman want Jey but he's reluctant at first.

Jey could have easily come out on his own last night after KO and Randy to help Cody, there's a friendly past there with no connection to Reigns one way or the other...

How Jimmy would've mixed in, IDK, but I know he was there...
It would've made more sense if it took both Usos to knock Jacob Fatu out of the equation instead of just one...

The plan for Survivor Series War Games has to be OG Bloodline vs. Bloodline 2.0

They have August, September, October and pretty much all of November to figure out how to get Jimmy and Jey to make up and Jimmy Jey and Roman to make up...
And find 1-2 partners...

But then again, nobody likes long term story telling anymore

[JustinVerlander07]

Originally Posted by jmarascojr

Jey could have easily come out on his own last night after KO and Randy to help Cody, there's a friendly past there with no connection to Reigns one way or the other...

How Jimmy would've mixed in, IDK, but I know he was there...
It would've made more sense if it took both Usos to knock Jacob Fatu out of the equation instead of just one...

The plan for Survivor Series War Games has to be OG Bloodline vs. Bloodline 2.0

They have August, September, October and pretty much all of November to figure out how to get Jimmy and Jey to make up and Jimmy Jey and Roman to make up...
And find 1-2 partners...

But then again, nobody likes long term story telling anymore

Oh I am for sure they will make it logical and there will be a reunion of sorts, all I'm saying is if they came out last night, tomorrow or next week just back together there is no logic in that.

[Jericho]

I thought SummerSlam was good overall. Worst match for me was Cody/Solo and I put that all on Solo because he's just awful. Cody tried his best to make Solo look like a threat, but it wasn't believable. And the announcers trying their best to make Solo seem like a badass, but its not working at all. Its going to be hard to watch them try and make the B team Bloodline seem like a threat when Roman could probably take them all by himself. I think eventually Jey will join them, but it will be a bit and then Sami. Too bad Moxley is in AEW or Roman could have turned to his "other family" in Rollins and Ambrose. Although Reigns, Rollins and Ambrose would just plow through those mid carders.

I expect Sami will be Gunther's first opponent or one of them. Dragunov will probably be another after that. Such a shame that they had a powerful face that could stand up to Gunther, but they didn't want to do anything with Lashley.

[Cracktoast]

I actually thought they made Solo look strong especially the first part of the match. I mean at some point it was obvious Cody was going to have to gain the advantage or what would be the point of a Bloodline Rules match and anybody else getting involved? Solo is never going to be an unstoppable monster like Umaga or Jacob and even then Umaga had a 47% loss record in WWE and I'm sure by the time his career is over Jacob will be close to that as well.

[Jaypers]

Did anyone besides me get a Bobby Heenan flashback as Hogan was about to join the NWO, when Graves and McAfee were talking about Roman as he walked down the aisle?

[JustinVerlander07]

The 24 on Damian Priest was excellent.

[JustinVerlander07]

The brand split doesn't exist again!

[whitmm]

They redeemed themselves a little bit with Wyatt Sicks debuting in-ring in the same city the Wyatt Family did.

[cdub6238]

Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

The brand split doesn't exist again!

I was confused.. I didn't listen to the promo so maybe he explained how...

I mean I guess it'll right the ending of the KOTR finish at least

Also..when did Damage CTRL turn face..like, everyone suppose to forget THEY turned on Bayley? Lol

[whitmm]

Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

The brand split doesn't exist again!

Might as well. Smackdown is going to be dominating by the bloodline, and that ties up the belt. And all the big names on Raw are tied up with storylines. Gunther needs someone to feud with.

Reed/Rollins is a not a feud I have any interest in. And with that, did he bite his tongue or take a capsule, or was he actually injured, because Seth was spitting up blood.

[cdub6238]

Originally Posted by whitmm

Might as well. Smackdown is going to be dominating by the bloodline, and that ties up the belt. And all the big names on Raw are tied up with storylines. Gunther needs someone to feud with.

Reed/Rollins is a not a feud I have any interest in. And with that, did he bite his tongue or take a capsule, or was he actually injured, because Seth was spitting up blood.

All the officials were so concerned about Seth that they scattered out of the way of the Tsunami 4 times!! Brave souls!

[JustinVerlander07]

The way Reed does the splash is done exceptionally well. Total fodder feud because RAW has too many main event level faces (Does Jey even get on the show tonight?????)

[cdub6238]

Odyssey Jones...someone who didn't do anything in NXT and hasn't been seen in almost 2 years....

Yay?

Oh hi more SD wrestlers!

[whitmm]

Originally Posted by cdub6238

All the officials were so concerned about Seth thay they scattered out of the way of the Tsunami 4 times!! Brave souls!

Just playing along. Seth is a pretty good seller.

It did seem like a plot to write Seth off for a while again. And also to get him out of the Punk/Drew feud. Take a couple weeks off and come for Reed.

[thenightman]

Nothing about the new Judgement Day? This place slippin’.

[whitmm]

They could have gone back even further with the Finn/Priest storyline. Edge/Priest/Rhea JD feuded with Finn and Liv, leading to Finn joining.

[whitmm]

Going with the commercial free first hour and then throwing every one of those commercials into the main event debut of the W6 certainly was a choice.

[Cracktoast]

My take on Raw

1. Don't mind the Rollins/Reed feud as long as they actually use it to finally push Reed. I have a feeling they will use it to set up Reed/Breaker down the road.

2. Judgement Day stuff was good I thought especially when they revealed everyone with Balor. And appears they will go with Judement Day/Liv vs. Rhea, Priest, Jey, & Sami. Have to wonder long term though if they don't turn Sami heel and we get Sami/Jey leading into WM.

3. Wyatt Sicks match wasn't a technical masterpiece and nobody should expect it to be but that said it was entertaining and we'll see how they grow the characters over time. Not sure why but I have a man crush for Dexters new look. lol

4. Don't expect Gunther/Orton past Berlin so I'm ok with it.

[BayAreaChris]

Originally Posted by Cracktoast

My take on Raw

1. Don't mind the Rollins/Reed feud as long as they actually use it to finally push Reed. I have a feeling they will use it to set up Reed/Breaker down the road.

2. Judgement Day stuff was good I thought especially when they revealed everyone with Balor. And appears they will go with Judement Day/Liv vs. Rhea, Priest, Jey, & Sami. Have to wonder long term though if they don't turn Sami heel and we get Sami/Jey leading into WM.

3. Wyatt Sicks match wasn't a technical masterpiece and nobody should expect it to be but that said it was entertaining and we'll see how they grow the characters over time. Not sure why but I have a man crush for Dexters new look. lol

4. Don't expect Gunther/Orton past Berlin so I'm ok with it.

Sorry I must have missed it but what’s the connection for Jey / Sami to Rhea and Priest? I really hoped the former would be part of the Bloodline story.

[Cracktoast]

Originally Posted by BayAreaChris

Sorry I must have missed it but what’s the connection for Jey / Sami to Rhea and Priest? I really hoped the former would be part of the Bloodline story.

Jey has been flirting with Rhea forever and Jey and Sami have been ucey since the bloodline days and Jey saying him and Sami have unfinished business with Judgement Day and that they were going to go after the tag titles it's just a natural fit.

IMO The Bloodline feud doesn't need Jey and putting him back into that group will kill any singles momentum he has. They have plenty of other Samoan family members they can bring in and it will work just as well. Now long term past WM or whenever Roman/Rock do their thing most of them will end up in NXT or released. Jacob and Solo aren't going anywhere and I think they could probably do something with Tama but Tonga Loa could disappear tonight and nobody would notice or care.

[whitmm]

With the whole tribal chief battle that is going to happen between Roman and Solo, can we finally get a bloodline match that doesn't include interference? In the purest sense, it's about who is the strongest warrior, so it should simply be one on one.

[scfa1975]

Originally Posted by Cracktoast

3. Wyatt Sicks match wasn't a technical masterpiece and nobody should expect it to be but that said it was entertaining and we'll see how they grow the characters over time. Not sure why but I have a man crush for Dexters new look. lol

Ha...Dont think your the only one. I am on the fence about his hair - I liked the short slicked style. I do like that he still walks around on his fists like a mudskipper. What I am afraid of is that at some point they may drag Indy Hartwell in and try to lure him out of the group...I mean they are still technically tv married.

Eric Rowan is a big doofus. The way he walks around the ring and how his mustache blows around as he breathes. I thought though he did good paying homage to Bray and Harper

Joe Gacy...he just looks like a deranged mess and I thought came off as I expected

[Cracktoast]

Logan Paul posted on social media that he was bringing a lawsuit against L.A. Knight for theft and damage to property after stealing the Prime truck and breaking out the plastic window. He even posted a realistic looking court document.

So this is how he will get a rematch @Berlin and IMO should win the title back. L.A. Knight is still popular with a small number of fans but his massive following has fallen way off from where it was 8-12 months ago. That cocky little after show press conference performance where he acted like he was bothered that he was even forced to be there didn't do him any favors either. Some might even argue if not for those Tweets that Paul would still be champion.

[Cracktoast]

is the LWO getting reinforcements ?

The Lucha Bros Expected To Leave AEW, Believed To Be WWE-Bound. Bryan Alvarez of F4WOnline.com then reported that, within AEW, the internal belief is that the Lucha Bros would be leaving the company and heading to WWE. LuchaLibreonline reported that Penta’s contract was set to come up between August and September. Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful recently reported that Fenix’s deal was also coming up.

[DrZman]

Originally Posted by Cracktoast

Logan Paul posted on social media that he was bringing a lawsuit against L.A. Knight for theft and damage to property after stealing the Prime truck and breaking out the plastic window. He even posted a realistic looking court document.

So this is how he will get a rematch @Berlin and IMO should win the title back. L.A. Knight is still popular with a small number of fans but his massive following has fallen way off from where it was 8-12 months ago. That cocky little after show press conference performance where he acted like he was bothered that he was even forced to be there didn't do him any favors either. Some might even argue if not for those Tweets that Paul would still be champion.

Jeez this is tone deaf when he's got a completely bs suit out against Coffeezilla right now. Wish the dude would just fall off the face of the earth.

Thought Raw was really good, the show has been flowing well lately.

Bummed to see the Lucha Bros leaving AEW. Hope they do well in WWE, the use of Dragon Lee so far doesn't have me too optimistic.