***The Official 2024 Atlanta Braves Thead***

[NCWolf]

This team freakin sucks. Comedy of errors from Duvall, Short, Laureano etc etc.. They can’t hit. Cant run bases. Cant catch baseballs. No leadership.

What a joke this club is.

[NYRE2PECT]

Originally Posted by NCWolf

This team freakin sucks. Comedy of errors from Duvall, Short, Laureano etc etc.. They can’t hit. Cant run bases. Cant catch baseballs. No leadership.

What a joke this club is.

You've been Laureano'd.

What a horrible inning for him.

[whitmm]

Originally Posted by NCWolf

This team freakin sucks. Comedy of errors from Duvall, Short, Laureano etc etc.. They can’t hit. Cant run bases. Cant catch baseballs. No leadership.

What a joke this club is.

Ozzie is the leader of the clubhouse, but it's tough to lead when you're injured. I wish Riley would step up to become a leader like Chipper.

I just can't see this team being buyers right now

I need to know what the dugout call was. If it was safety squeeze, it's on Ramon. If it was suicide, it's on Kelenic. Edit: Snit said he didn't have anything on.

[NCWolf]

Originally Posted by whitmm

Ozzie is the leader of the clubhouse, but it's tough to lead when you're injured. I wish Riley would step up to become a leader like Chipper.

I just can't see this team being buyers right now

I need to know what the dugout call was. If it was safety squeeze, it's on Ramon. If it was suicide, it's on Kelenic.

Shouldn’t be buyers. I’d make Fried available if it were me. Could get so much in return.

[whitmm]

I just saw the clip of the bottom of the 10th. Wow, just wow. It's embarrassing to watch this team have quite possibly the worst right field in all of baseball.

There must be a league average defensive RF out there somewhere that the team could sign.

[Cracktoast]

Braves don't need to do anything with pitching be it add or subtract. address that in the off season via winter meetings trade or FA signings. They need to focus first on SS and 2B and the fact that besides Michael Harris every single main roster fielder will be 25 or older with 3 guys 29 or older going into next season.

Matt Olson has been a complete failure this year, Sean Murphy is made of glass, and Arcia plain sucks. Kelenic has been nice this year but does anyone really believe he can do this year after year for the next 4-5 years ? I already expressed my concern with Albies in an earlier post about his age and being injury prone as well and if it's wise in a couple more years to throw a boat load of money at him or do you move him for what you can get before he hits free agency in 2028. Acuna most likely is going to have to go to DH at some point to save him from himself because he doesn't know but 1 gear in the OF and it's not favorable to keeping him healthy not to mention they are going to have to make it clear to him he can't be allowed to try and steal 50+ bases every year if he wants to play everyday.

Atlanta has enough young pitching coming down the line they just need to stop being so careless with them and need to change whatever their pitching program is in the minors to prevent all the injuries.

[Noles939913]

Originally Posted by Cracktoast

Braves don't need to do anything with pitching be it add or subtract. address that in the off season via winter meetings trade or FA signings. They need to focus first on SS and 2B and the fact that besides Michael Harris every single main roster fielder will be 25 or older with 3 guys 29 or older going into next season.

Matt Olson has been a complete failure this year, Sean Murphy is made of glass, and Arcia plain sucks. Kelenic has been nice this year but does anyone really believe he can do this year after year for the next 4-5 years ? I already expressed my concern with Albies in an earlier post about his age and being injury prone as well and if it's wise in a couple more years to throw a boat load of money at him or do you move him for what you can get before he hits free agency in 2028. Acuna most likely is going to have to go to DH at some point to save him from himself because he doesn't know but 1 gear in the OF and it's not favorable to keeping him healthy not to mention they are going to have to make it clear to him he can't be allowed to try and steal 50+ bases every year if he wants to play everyday.

Atlanta has enough young pitching coming down the line they just need to stop being so careless with them and need to change whatever their pitching program is in the minors to prevent all the injuries.

So much wrong in this post.

[rittdk01]

^^^^Cracktoast

Every player but Harris will be 25 or older w three 29 or older. So most of the team in their prime??

Kelenic is 25 and just entering his prime. There’s no reason to think he won’t keep it up and get even better.

Your take on Ozzie wasn’t right the first time.

Has Murphy been hurt before the stomach muscle to start this season? He’s a catcher so I hope he’s not made of glass.

No MLB team ever has enough starting pitching. Every team has arms go down every year. The biggest concern to the team right now is/should be Max Fried and his forearm.

The Braves have to learn to play small ball and do the little things to score runs. If they don’t score runs then nothing else matters (see the last two years’ playoff runs).

[Cracktoast]

Just my point of view nothing more never said anybody had to agree with it.

[Rabs]

Originally Posted by Cracktoast

Just my point of view nothing more never said anybody had to agree with it.

Lay off the crack homie!

[whitmm]

Cracktoast, why are you so concerned about them moving Ozzie when he won't hit free agency for another 3 years. You're worried about his replacement? One of the replacement options is current replacing him. And the other option is currently in the farm system. Ozzie is of zero concern for this team this season or next season. AA isn't wasting his breath talking about "what ifs" in 2028.

Absolutely Kelenic has potential to do this the next 4-5 years. Let's not act like he's putting up superstar numbers. Slashing .250/.300/.400 while providing good defense isn't a crazy expectation. Especially considering he's done it over his last 190ish games. Last year was him turning the corner and this year is him showing that it's sticking.

Personally, I think what we are seeing this year is just how influential Ron Washington and EY Sr were to this team. Wash is one of the best infield coaches in the game and you saw the relationship between him and the guys. Snit's lack of fire does nothing to inspire these guys. I know they all say they love Snit, but I think the coaching staff is what needs the shake up.

[Rabs]

I've never liked Snit. He's emotionless 95% of the time and looks like an old dog. Bores me to death.

I still miss Bobby.

[Noles939913]

Originally Posted by rittdk01

^^^^Cracktoast

Every player but Harris will be 25 or older w three 29 or older. So most of the team in their prime??

Kelenic is 25 and just entering his prime. There’s no reason to think he won’t keep it up and get even better.

Your take on Ozzie wasn’t right the first time.

Has Murphy been hurt before the stomach muscle to start this season? He’s a catcher so I hope he’s not made of glass.

No MLB team ever has enough starting pitching. Every team has arms go down every year. The biggest concern to the team right now is/should be Max Fried and his forearm.

The Braves have to learn to play small ball and do the little things to score runs. If they don’t score runs then nothing else matters (see the last two years’ playoff runs).

Aren’t all of Ozzie’s injuries from things like fouling a ball off his foot, sliding into second, or getting hit by a pitch? It’s not like he’s a walking nagging injury like Eloy Jimenez or Mike Trout.

[whitmm]

Originally Posted by Noles939913

Aren’t all of Ozzie’s injuries from things like fouling a ball off his foot, sliding into second, or getting hit by a pitch? It’s not like he’s a walking nagging injury like Eloy Jimenez or Mike Trout.

His latest injury occurred when he tried fielding an errant throw on a steal. They've all been bad luck injuries

[Rabs]

Originally Posted by whitmm

His latest injury occurred when he tried fielding an errant throw on a steal. They've all been bad luck injuries

He's had a lot of bad luck for sure.

[whitmm]

Originally Posted by Rabs

He's had a lot of bad luck for sure.

Injuries aside, I'm not sure why anyone would talk about getting rid of the guy who is the heart and soul of the team and, when healthy, one of the top second basemen in the league that is under contract for the next three years.

[jduds]

Originally Posted by whitmm

Cracktoast, why are you so concerned about them moving Ozzie when he won't hit free agency for another 3 years. You're worried about his replacement? One of the replacement options is current replacing him. And the other option is currently in the farm system. Ozzie is of zero concern for this team this season or next season. AA isn't wasting his breath talking about "what ifs" in 2028.

Absolutely Kelenic has potential to do this the next 4-5 years. Let's not act like he's putting up superstar numbers. Slashing .250/.300/.400 while providing good defense isn't a crazy expectation. Especially considering he's done it over his last 190ish games. Last year was him turning the corner and this year is him showing that it's sticking.

Personally, I think what we are seeing this year is just how influential Ron Washington and EY Sr were to this team. Wash is one of the best infield coaches in the game and you saw the relationship between him and the guys. Snit's lack of fire does nothing to inspire these guys. I know they all say they love Snit, but I think the coaching staff is what needs the shake up.

Yeah, I don't get the Albies hate at all but I do get questioning Kelenic. He's worlds better than he was, but that still leaves him as a platoon hitter/utility outfielder IMO. My big worry with him is that he has been horribly streaky this year and when bad looks like he did previously where he looks like he has no business in the league. He's currently enjoying a .483 OPS for July.

[Gatorsmld]

Originally Posted by whitmm

Injuries aside, I'm not sure why anyone would talk about getting rid of the guy who is the heart and soul of the team and, when healthy, one of the top second basemen in the league that is under contract for the next three years.

100% agree. I have been a Braves guy for decades and Ozzie is the heart and soul of my PC!

[Rabs]

Originally Posted by whitmm

Injuries aside, I'm not sure why anyone would talk about getting rid of the guy who is the heart and soul of the team and, when healthy, one of the top second basemen in the league that is under contract for the next three years.

Imagine how good he'd be if he hit right handed full time.

[JWBlue]

The Mets broadcast made a good point about the Braves team last season. Literally every everyday player and even a lot of the pitchers had career years at the same time.

[NCWolf]

Don’t buy. Please sell.

[whitmm]

Originally Posted by JWBlue

The Mets broadcast made a good point about the Braves team last season. Literally every everyday player and even a lot of the pitchers had career years at the same time.

I mean not really. Austin Riley had his 3rd straight 30+hr, 90+ RBI season. Acuna did exactly what he's capable of doing when he's healthy the whole year. Remember, a late injury cost him a 40-40 season once before. Ozuna was healthy and nah to form and is doing it again. Ozzie did what Ozzie does. Even Arcia put up similar numbers to his other seasons of similar games.

Matt Olson is about the only one that had a career year. I'd say it was more of everyone did what they've shown to be able to do.

[whitmm]

The Braves have won the division the last six years and have been top 3 in runs per game three of the last four seasons. This season is more a case of too many hitters having down years than it is last year every one having " career years"

[whitmm]

Duvall with 2 hrs tonight! His trade value will never be higher!

[bravesballer]

I'd say the team has given up but unless they gave up months ago nothing has really changed. I don't see it suddenly changing either. I'd trade Fried and Ozuna, get some real outfield talent. Put Acuna in at DH next year, Morton will clearly be done, and Arcia I just don't know his glove good and I think he can make a comeback but the main thing is they need some morale, leadership, and heart. Also someone on the coaching staff that will get on their asses since Snitker is the most hands off, asleep at the wheel, autopilot coach in history.