new $0.75 shipping from eBay

[thebigcalivt]

Do you have to do a PIP claim for each card if there more than one card in the ESE? Or can you do it just once for the one order?

[rwperu34]

Originally Posted by thebigcalivt

Do you have to do a PIP claim for each card if there more than one card in the ESE? Or can you do it just once for the one order?

One per tracking #.

[base set]

I posted about my first Postage Dues on the main baseball forum and was asked to describe what might have generated them. Since then I have had plenty more but I figured more shippers would read this here.

As many have noted, there isn't a specific, automatic here, it seems. I thought maybe a certain brand of photo mailer was a no-good but then I saw the same brand arrive just fine.

I would say that odds seem to go up with toploaders in that I can't recall a Postage Due when a Card Saver was involved.

Otherwise Photo Mailers seem like the biggest risk. But toploaders inside a Photo Mailer can arrive no postage anyway. It's random.

Some attempts at this, however, are easy to see what happened. Sending a thick toploader with a half-dozen cards inside, yeah, no. Adding a big chunk of cardboard - again, no. Card Saver won't make any difference if you tape it to thick cardboard.

[base set]

One today though, leads to a question - can I request a Shipping Refund from a seller?

I don't fool with worrying about the Postage Due arrivals; I don't send a message or even ding the DSRs. I figure the sellers will have plenty of other customers who will let them know about all this, and overall ESE is a help to buyers & sellers both. If 1-in-10 single cards arrive with 44¢ or whatever due, then, whatever.

But today I got one with $4.23 Postage Due.

And I was charged $5.35 shipping for the item - the seller used the exact $1.12 shipping option.

The card arrived fine; no surprise since it was a toploader taped to cardboard then wrapped in bubble wrap. But stuffed in a fat bulging $1.12 envelope was an obvious not-gonna-work.

I do want to keep the card - what happens if I request a shipping refund? I feel like I should hand out a little shipping lesson here.

[shrevecity]

Originally Posted by base set

One today though, leads to a question - can I request a Shipping Refund from a seller?

I don't fool with worrying about the Postage Due arrivals; I don't send a message or even ding the DSRs. I figure the sellers will have plenty of other customers who will let them know about all this, and overall ESE is a help to buyers & sellers both. If 1-in-10 single cards arrive with 44¢ or whatever due, then, whatever.

But today I got one with $4.23 Postage Due.

And I was charged $5.35 shipping for the item - the seller used the exact $1.12 shipping option.

The card arrived fine; no surprise since it was a toploader taped to cardboard then wrapped in bubble wrap. But stuffed in a fat bulging $1.12 envelope was an obvious not-gonna-work.

I do want to keep the card - what happens if I request a shipping refund? I feel like I should hand out a little shipping lesson here.

You can ask but Ebay will not force a refund as it enters a Grey area on partial refund requests Postage Due is the only instance where a buyer is allowed to refuse a shipment

As to your previous post it really just depends on the employee who catches its they policy is written in a way it creates no firm rules

[base set]

oh well. The picture of $1.12 postage paid with $4.23 Postage Due stamped right underneath it would have summed up that one perfectly. Seller will have lots of unhappy customers if he keeps trying this, I would expect.



Working through today's arrivals - another run of fails on the photo mailer brand "Armalope," which seems to have less luck than the ones with no brand names. Only one Armalope has made it through w/o Due.

[rwperu34]

Usually when I get one postage due, I inform the seller before I pay for it. So far I'm 100% on getting refunds, but it has been a pretty rare occurrence for me.

[nam812]

Originally Posted by base set

oh well. The picture of $1.12 postage paid with $4.23 Postage Due............

I would send the seller a picture of the envelope showing the excessive postage due, and a polite message saying "since I already paid $5.35 for shipping, how are we going to handle this?"

[BeardedVol]

More sellers should put an option for shipping on the payment page - some people would rather pay 5 for real tracking than that slow esu nonsense

[JeffG1954]

Originally Posted by BeardedVol

More sellers should put an option for shipping on the payment page - some people would rather pay 5 for real tracking than that slow esu nonsense

More buyers who don't like the ESE format should message sellers and ask them how much they would charge for BMWT. I would guess most sellers wouldn't mind doing the upgrade if the buyer wants to pay the extra. I have found that many buyers, when given the choice, will opt for the cheaper shipping but then not be happy when the card is not sent BMWT instead of the ESE that they paid for.

[shrevecity]

Originally Posted by JeffG1954

More buyers who don't like the ESE format should message sellers and ask them how much they would charge for BMWT. I would guess most sellers wouldn't mind doing the upgrade if the buyer wants to pay the extra. I have found that many buyers, when given the choice, will opt for the cheaper shipping but then not be happy when the card is not sent BMWT instead of the ESE that they paid for.

Same here ypu give tgem the choice and then they blame you when they take the cheaper option.

Also ese is no slower than any other method. Ese right now is averaging 4 days ground advantage is also 4. Last 3 priority packages I have sent took 5 5 and 8

[jamcas997]

Originally Posted by BeardedVol

More sellers should put an option for shipping on the payment page - some people would rather pay 5 for real tracking than that slow esu nonsense

Some of us do offer that.





But then you get buyers that are all up on the FREE SHIPPING and when they get the card scream all cards should be sent in Top Loaders and Bubble Mailers.

[BeardedVol]

Originally Posted by JeffG1954

More buyers who don't like the ESE format should message sellers and ask them how much they would charge for BMWT. I would guess most sellers wouldn't mind doing the upgrade if the buyer wants to pay the extra. I have found that many buyers, when given the choice, will opt for the cheaper shipping but then not be happy when the card is not sent BMWT instead of the ESE that they paid for.

Thats a problem for hot cards - I like to BIN and pay right away or I could lose the deal - if I could I would send the extra money to cover real tracking -- An ESE of mine has been destination processing for 5 days now - I dont know if the idiot postal worker was to lazy to fill out a postage due notice or why is delayed so long I guess wait til the 29th and file a claim if doesnt show up .. but still I would rather have the card

[FBSCLV]

Well this is a first

Apparently the biggest post office In vegas has opted out of processing pwe shipments. I had been dropping 50+ per week here for years then All of a sudden I started getting 10-20 envelopes at a time back in my P.O. Box all with .22-.86 cents due. So I tried talking to the customer help people next door along with the post master who went to the back and talked to the guys in the back. She came back and said all of them are in agreement that they are too rigid(most were 35 point in an toploader & waaaay under eBay requirements ) and will no be putting them thru the machine. I ran into another person who was having the same problem as well at this post office. I have since started dropping them at a different post office and haven’t had any issues

[BeardedVol]

Originally Posted by FBSCLV

Well this is a first

Apparently the biggest post office In vegas has opted out of processing pwe shipments. I had been dropping 50+ per week here for years then All of a sudden I started getting 10-20 envelopes at a time back in my P.O. Box all with .22-.86 cents due. So I tried talking to the customer help people next door along with the post master who went to the back and talked to the guys in the back. She came back and said all of them are in agreement that they are too rigid(most were 35 point in an toploader & waaaay under eBay requirements ) and will no be putting them thru the machine. I ran into another person who was having the same problem as well at this post office. I have since started dropping them at a different post office and haven’t had any issues

yet they have no problem with junk mail being delivered - USPS sucks

[premium1981]

Originally Posted by FBSCLV

Well this is a first

Apparently the biggest post office In vegas has opted out of processing pwe shipments. I had been dropping 50+ per week here for years then All of a sudden I started getting 10-20 envelopes at a time back in my P.O. Box all with .22-.86 cents due. So I tried talking to the customer help people next door along with the post master who went to the back and talked to the guys in the back. She came back and said all of them are in agreement that they are too rigid(most were 35 point in an toploader & waaaay under eBay requirements ) and will no be putting them thru the machine. I ran into another person who was having the same problem as well at this post office. I have since started dropping them at a different post office and haven’t had any issues

This should be illegal. A service like USPS shouldn’t have different rules in different places based on the employees feelings.

[swerve]

Originally Posted by BeardedVol

More sellers should put an option for shipping on the payment page - some people would rather pay 5 for real tracking than that slow esu nonsense

I used to give the option and not a single buyer ever opted to upgrade the shipping. So the "some" has been zero in my experience and I just stopped adding the option.

[shrevecity]

Originally Posted by premium1981

This should be illegal. A service like USPS shouldn’t have different rules in different places based on the employees feelings.

This has been the case way before ESE was a thing even with the old PWE if the the clerk felt the package was too rigid then its too rigid. This is why some POs are needed to be totally avoided. We have one near us that basically rejects any Ebay ESE for this reason. If you complain they will tell you its up to the individual to make that determination. Just part of the process.

[tdbaseballcards]

Had a buyer open an item not received case today for an ESE from March 28th. Last update for tracking was out for delivery on April 1st. They went straight to the block list.

[JeffG1954]

Originally Posted by tdbaseballcards

Had a buyer open an item not received case today for an ESE from March 28th. Last update for tracking was out for delivery on April 1st. They went straight to the block list.

Doesn't the 30 days from ETA come into play with this one?

[shrevecity]

Originally Posted by JeffG1954

Doesn't the 30 days from ETA come into play with this one?

That does not stop them from opening it just means the seller will win Had one opened in January from a card delivered on November 9th

[rwperu34]

I'm dropping a greeting card in the mail tomorrow and it is a little less rigid than one card in a Card Saver, but not by a lot. It certainly does not bend 90°.

[jamcas997]

Originally Posted by shrevecity

This has been the case way before ESE was a thing even with the old PWE if the the clerk felt the package was too rigid then its too rigid. This is why some POs are needed to be totally avoided. We have one near us that basically rejects any Ebay ESE for this reason. If you complain they will tell you its up to the individual to make that determination. Just part of the process.

If you remember the USPS rule for FC shipping with tracking the package/BBL Mailer had to be half an inch thick to ship it that way or else it was suppose to be Upgraded to Priority. To me that rule never made sense. I did have maybe 5 from 2005 to 2011 that had this issue. I ended up adding the sturdy type packing peanuts to the bottom of the envelope to get the correct thickness and so those USPS that were PITAs wouldn't add the fees on my buyers.

[shrevecity]

Originally Posted by jamcas997

If you remember the USPS rule for FC shipping with tracking the package/BBL Mailer had to be half an inch thick to ship it that way or else it was suppose to be Upgraded to Priority. To me that rule never made sense. I did have maybe 5 from 2005 to 2011 that had this issue. I ended up adding the sturdy type packing peanuts to the bottom of the envelope to get the correct thickness and so those USPS that were PITAs wouldn't add the fees on my buyers.

I remember that as well it's WHT many would add a packing peanut. Also during that Era if a pwe was going to be called too rigid and up graded it would go to priority for this same reason. in most cases.

Card savers stop some of the rigidity issues

[Bosoxfan5990]

Anyone receiving an error when trying to print ESE labels tonight?