Star Co. Basketball is Hottt!

[Cardsandcoffee]

The pump on this thread is wild

[GOATcards]

how can a pumper be taken seriously when they use exclamation points on all their sentences, and refuse countless times to address the elephant in the room

it's a terrible sell job, can the 101 at least get better pumpers? Not sure if Starman is the person for the job as pumping doesn't seem to be his game, just better presentation of points and more dialectical skill/accountability

[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by GOATcards

how can a pumper be taken seriously when they use exclamation points on all their sentences, and refuse countless times to address the elephant in the room

it's a terrible sell job, can the 101 at least get better pumpers? Not sure if Starman is the person for the job as pumping doesn't seem to be his game, just better presentation of points and more dialectical skill/accountability

He spends all his time on this forum pumping his Star MJ, PSA 5 Brady and green Kobe. It's become a running joke at this point. No one takes him seriously.

[Starman101]

[QUOTE=GOATcards;19468822
the 101 is the true Mantle 52 Topps of basketball! haha![/QUOTE]

I think in time this comment will actually age very well

[Starman101]

Originally Posted by Hellcat

The 57 is a great 3rd year card nothing wrong with that! 57 fan boys flip over the card tell me what you see on the back! When you have to explain to someone out of the hobby how it's his rookie with 2 years of stats on the back! Lmfao

I like the 86 Fleer

I really do

But this comment is very true

[drobfan8]

Originally Posted by Hellcat

The 57 is a great 3rd year card nothing wrong with that! 57 fan boys flip over the card tell me what you see on the back! When you have to explain to someone out of the hobby how it's his rookie with 2 years of stats on the back! Lmfao

Who are you actually talking to?

I've never seen anyone "fan boy" over the Fleer Jordan.

People grew up with Fleer. Not Star. The Star is worth more.

At this point, you're like a jaded ex that walked away with $10 million from the divorce and still aint happy.

You're a joke.

[Mustang602]

Always looking to buy '84 Star Jordans for anyone selling....

[robert0629]

Originally Posted by Hellcat

The 57 is a great 3rd year card nothing wrong with that! 57 fan boys flip over the card tell me what you see on the back! When you have to explain to someone out of the hobby how it's his rookie with 2 years of stats on the back! Lmfao

Well if the person you're showing it to had any knowledge at all, they're probably familiar with the fact that most rookie cards during this period had at least one season of stats from a major professional sports team. The 101 doesn't have this, it shows only his college stats. So how would you explain that?

If we're going to be accurate, and we're looking at just the back of the card, the 1985-86 #117 would be his true "rookie" card. It's my understanding that this set is easier to counterfeit than the 101 set. I don't see any PSA graded 117's, so I'm assuming PSA still doesn't grade these.

Just for comparison sake, the 1984 Topps Traded Dwight Gooden shows only minor league stats and is considered an XRC. His 1985 Topps card shows his first season with the Mets, and is considered his true rookie card. So using this logic we're forced to conclude once again that the 101 is still just an XRC.

I guess you should now invest heavily in the 117, and convince whoever you can that it's his true rookie card.

[Cardsandcoffee]

Originally Posted by robert0629

Well if the person you're showing it to had any knowledge at all, they're probably familiar with the fact that most rookie cards during this period had at least one season of stats from a major professional sports team. The 101 doesn't have this, it shows only his college stats. So how would you explain that?

If we're going to be accurate, and we're looking at just the back of the card, the 1985-86 #117 would be his true "rookie" card. It's my understanding that this set is easier to counterfeit than the 101 set. I don't see any PSA graded 117's, so I'm assuming PSA still doesn't grade these.

Just for comparison sake, the 1984 Topps Traded Dwight Gooden shows only minor league stats and is considered an XRC. His 1985 Topps card shows his first season with the Mets, and is considered his true rookie card. So using this logic we're forced to conclude once again that the 101 is still just an XRC.

I guess you should now invest heavily in the 117, and convince whoever you can that it's his true rookie card.

This. Star pumpers playing revisionist history

[Hellcat]

There's no pumping going on it's Jordans only rookie. I only have one copy and I'm not selling it.

[Cardsandcoffee]

Originally Posted by Hellcat

There's no pumping going on it's Jordans only rookie. I only have one copy and I'm not selling it.

It’s not but ok

[GOATcards]

Originally Posted by Cardsandcoffee

This. Star pumpers playing revisionist history

the 101 is a rookie card by any sensible criteria

the best the deniers can seem to come up with is placing an X in front of RC, like that somehow negates the RC part

[Cardsandcoffee]

Originally Posted by GOATcards

the 101 is a rookie card by any sensible criteria

the best the deniers can seem to come up with is placing an X in front of RC, like that somehow negates the RC part

Already had this conversation Goat. Never said an XRC negated anything about the Star card. By any sensible criteria, the Star 101 is an XRC.

[Hellcat]

If you want to use the XRC that belongs on the 3rd year card not the rookie. There's nothing "extended" by a rookie year card. Lmfao

[Cardsandcoffee]

Originally Posted by Hellcat

If you want to use the XRC that belongs on the 3rd year card not the rookie. There's nothing "extended" by a rookie year card. Lmfao

I’m LMFAO too… Keep pumping your Star though. It’s an XRC all day to the hobby.

[Archangel1775]

Pump that XRC

[Mustang602]

I'm unaware of good examples of an XRC that is two years prior to the RC as the Star is to Fleer. This to me gives it even more weight and significance. Third year of his career is a rough place to start imo.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by GOATcards

the 101 is a rookie card by any sensible criteria

the best the deniers can seem to come up with is placing an X in front of RC, like that somehow negates the RC part

Hey, if you prefer the 1996 SI for kids tiger “rookie” over his 2001 rookies, that’s up to you!

I prefer my rookie cards to be obtained by how it was represented during the era of release, in wax boxes and nationally distributed by a mainstream company.

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by Mustang602

I'm unaware of good examples of an XRC that is two years prior to the RC as the Star is to Fleer. This to me gives it even more weight and significance. Third year of his career is a rough place to start imo.

This is how basketball is. Wilt Chamberlain's rookie in 1961 Fleer is his third year card. Bob Cousy's 1957-58 Topps is his 8th year card. Basketball rookie cards are their first issued pack pulled cards. Bob Cousy has a 1951 Berk's Ross card, but very few people call this his rookie card because it had similar distribution to the Star cards.

[GOATcards]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Hey, if you prefer the 1996 SI for kids tiger “rookie” over his 2001 rookies, that’s up to you!

I prefer my rookie cards to be obtained by how it was represented during the era of release, in wax boxes and nationally distributed by a mainstream company.

you prefer your rookie cards to be some kind of word salad?

[GOATcards]

Originally Posted by discodanman45

This is how basketball is. Wilt Chamberlain's rookie in 1961 Fleer is his third year card. Bob Cousy's 1957-58 Topps is his 8th year card. Basketball rookie cards are their first issued pack pulled cards. Bob Cousy has a 1951 Berk's Ross card, but very few people call this his rookie card because it had similar distribution to the Star cards.

it's really silly to call non-rookie-year cards rookie cards

ergo it's silly to call the 61F Wilt a rookie card

unless we're referring to cards themselves as rookies or veterans

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by GOATcards

you prefer your rookie cards to be some kind of word salad?

I prefer them not to be printed on demand like Topps now and panini instant.

[GOATcards]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

I prefer them not to be printed on demand like Topps now and panini instant.

Irrelevant to what qualifies as RC

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[duron]

Originally Posted by GOATcards

you prefer your rookie cards to be some kind of word salad?

Goatcards, a word salad master rivaled only by Nomad, has spoken.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by GOATcards

Irrelevant to what qualifies as RC

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May not be relevant for you, but it matters to a lot of people for their card of choice.